Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 54 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: This Jackson MVP hype train is just so F*in confusing to me! Am I the only one? I get Purdy. I get Dak. Heck, I even understood Tua while it lasted. But Lamar?????? Lamar Jackson 3846 total yards 66.3% comp % 22 total TDs 13 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 0 Game Winning Drives Josh Allen 3939 total yards 66.3% comp % 37 total TDs 17 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives Brock Purdy 3933 total yards 69.8% comp % 31 total TDs 9 total TOs 0 4th Quarter Comebacks 0 Game Winning Drives Dak Prescott 3851 total yards 68.8% comp % 30 Total TDs 9 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives I don't even know if Lamar Jackson ends up with 30 TDs. There is NO WAY Lamar is winning MVP. Agreed. He would be one of the most underwhelming MVP's ever. The fact that his team has been first in the conference for much of the season but he's hovered around 4-6th in odds for most the season is very telling. He has a chance to pick up some big wins to finish the season but even Dak at this point I think has a better chance of bouncing back and finishing strong with a respectable 38-39 TD's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: This Jackson MVP hype train is just so F*in confusing to me! Am I the only one? I get Purdy. I get Dak. Heck, I even understood Tua while it lasted. But Lamar?????? Lamar Jackson 3846 total yards 66.3% comp % 22 total TDs 13 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 0 Game Winning Drives Josh Allen 3939 total yards 66.3% comp % 37 total TDs 17 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives Brock Purdy 3933 total yards 69.8% comp % 31 total TDs 9 total TOs 0 4th Quarter Comebacks 0 Game Winning Drives Dak Prescott 3851 total yards 68.8% comp % 30 Total TDs 9 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives I don't even know if Lamar Jackson ends up with 30 TDs. There is NO WAY Lamar is winning MVP. If the award MUST go to a QB and the Bills miss the playoffs, Lamar or Dak would probably be my choice. He's been mostly great this season and has just been let down by his teammates time after time. Basically the opposite of Purdy where he's been the relative weak link (don't really mean this to be a diss even though it sounds like it; he's played well, but his playmakers have been remarkable) of the team more often than not but his teammates have been good enough that it doesn't matter. Lamar is missing the touchdowns on his resume compared to the others, but it's basically just because once they've gotten to the goal-line, they've let their RBs pound it in basically every time. Gus Edwards has 11 rushing TDs this season and his longest TD is 7 yards; after that it's 3. This isn't the case for any of the other MVP candidates. But again, I really think it should be between Josh Allen (assuming Buffalo at least makes the playoffs), McCaffrey, and Tyreek Hill for MVP this season. I don't think guys like Lamar, Dak, Purdy, etc. are actually deserving this season. It's an underwhelming season for QB play. Edited December 19, 2023 by DCOrange 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: This Jackson MVP hype train is just so F*in confusing to me! Am I the only one? I get Purdy. I get Dak. Heck, I even understood Tua while it lasted. But Lamar?????? Lamar Jackson 3846 total yards 66.3% comp % 22 total TDs 13 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 0 Game Winning Drives Josh Allen 3939 total yards 66.3% comp % 37 total TDs 17 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives Brock Purdy 3933 total yards 69.8% comp % 31 total TDs 9 total TOs 0 4th Quarter Comebacks 0 Game Winning Drives Dak Prescott 3851 total yards 68.8% comp % 30 Total TDs 9 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives I don't even know if Lamar Jackson ends up with 30 TDs. There is NO WAY Lamar is winning MVP. No QB in NFL history gets praised more for 150 yds/1 TD than Lamar Jackson. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: This Jackson MVP hype train is just so F*in confusing to me! Am I the only one? I get Purdy. I get Dak. Heck, I even understood Tua while it lasted. But Lamar?????? Lamar Jackson 3846 total yards 66.3% comp % 22 total TDs 13 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 0 Game Winning Drives Josh Allen 3939 total yards 66.3% comp % 37 total TDs 17 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives Brock Purdy 3933 total yards 69.8% comp % 31 total TDs 9 total TOs 0 4th Quarter Comebacks 0 Game Winning Drives Dak Prescott 3851 total yards 68.8% comp % 30 Total TDs 9 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives I don't even know if Lamar Jackson ends up with 30 TDs. There is NO WAY Lamar is winning MVP. Yeah it's entirely based on team record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 1 hour ago, transplantbillsfan said: This Jackson MVP hype train is just so F*in confusing to me! Am I the only one? I get Purdy. I get Dak. Heck, I even understood Tua while it lasted. But Lamar?????? Lamar Jackson 3846 total yards 66.3% comp % 22 total TDs 13 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 0 Game Winning Drives Josh Allen 3939 total yards 66.3% comp % 37 total TDs 17 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives Brock Purdy 3933 total yards 69.8% comp % 31 total TDs 9 total TOs 0 4th Quarter Comebacks 0 Game Winning Drives Dak Prescott 3851 total yards 68.8% comp % 30 Total TDs 9 total TOs 1 4th Quarter Comeback 2 Game Winning Drives I don't even know if Lamar Jackson ends up with 30 TDs. There is NO WAY Lamar is winning MVP. It's Lamar. The sports media bobbleheads drool on themselves over Lamar. But, his team is currently the #1 seed. They also have some huge matchups the next couple of weeks @ SF and then at home against Miami. If Lamar shines in two W's then he could be getting his second trophy. If the Bills were 11-3, and currently #1 in the AFC, Allen would be the clear frontrunner. It's just the nature of the beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 5 hours ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Yes, Most Valuable Purdy trophy Purdy-est Player? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 5 hours ago, GoBills808 said: It is You saw how bad Nick mullens actually is, ditto Beathard These guys were reasonable NFL QBs under Shanahan Only for very brief periods. With those two the seriousness of the limitations showed even within the Shanny scheme. That isn't to dispute that he is the best Quarterback hider in the NFL. He totally is. And by a long way. But the fact Purdy has made it last for a year does suggest he is better than Mullens and Beathard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: Purdy-est Player? I will be the judge and there will be a 10 way tie at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Only for very brief periods. With those two the seriousness of the limitations showed even within the Shanny scheme. That isn't to dispute that he is the best Quarterback hider in the NFL. He totally is. And by a long way. But the fact Purdy has made it last for a year does suggest he is better than Mullens and Beathard. Garoppolo is the comp I think 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Agreed. He would be one of the most underwhelming MVP's ever. The fact that his team has been first in the conference for much of the season but he's hovered around 4-6th in odds for most the season is very telling. He has a chance to pick up some big wins to finish the season but even Dak at this point I think has a better chance of bouncing back and finishing strong with a respectable 38-39 TD's. Remember Lamar made the Pro Bowl over Allen in 2020, despite inferior numbers nearly across the board? Allen ran second to Rogers in MVP voting and missed out on the Pro Bowl to fricking Lamar Jackson. Same story this year. Allen is twice the QB Jackson is. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 I see people saying it’s a blah or down year for QBs so give it to CMC or Tyreek, Allen will end the season with 4600+ total yards 45 TDs and possibly his 4th straight division title. Are we that spoiled, or just used to this type of prolific production from Allen that we fail to recognize the absurdity of these numbers ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Y’all realize that Josh is gonna go nuts these last three games and win the MVP right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 “Anybody but Allen” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 🤔 3 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 They brought up the INT streak but never really brought up this one even though it's significantly longer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 5 hours ago, Warcodered said: They brought up the INT streak but never really brought up this one even though it's significantly longer. That's because it doesn't fit the sports media 🤡 narrative. They only talk about things to knock him down. And even if they do try to disguise their intentions by mentioning a positive, it's usually followed by a "but" afterwards. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 Awwww, @Airseven , how we've missed you as of late. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 15 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Only for very brief periods. With those two the seriousness of the limitations showed even within the Shanny scheme. That isn't to dispute that he is the best Quarterback hider in the NFL. He totally is. And by a long way. But the fact Purdy has made it last for a year does suggest he is better than Mullens and Beathard. Purdy is the real deal. He is in the perfect system for him, but he is excellent at running it. I think he is better than Tua, for example. His vision and ability to see what's happening on the field is really impressive. I still think they would have won the SB last year if he hadn't gotten hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 17 hours ago, Process said: No QB in NFL history gets praised more for 150 yds/1 TD than Lamar Jackson. I like Lamar and think hes a great player, but he is an ok passer. That doesnt mean he is ineffective, but when teams have made him strictly a passer, he has struggled I feel the same way about Jalen Hurts too 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 My take on this issue is: Real MVPs (mean most to team) are Josh, Lamar and Jalen If you can't have those guy's just because (Who I'd pick since it's mostly about numbers and being on a good team now) Christian, Tyreke Who the media is pushing because they love a good manufactured story: Purdy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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