Captain Caveman Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 How long before the Bears trade us Edmunds for a 4th (and they retain 50% of his salary) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain Caveman said: How long before the Bears trade us Edmunds for a 4th (and they retain 50% of his salary) I, right now and perfectly fine with Bernard at MLB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irv Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 That's it. Season's over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Irv said: That's it. Season's over. That's right. Give the Bills the Lombardi right now! Klien on the PS is not a bad thing at all. I know that a lot of fans have "completely" written off Dodson and Spector but I'm still holding out some hope that one of these young guys can become a decent depth ILB. If Williams can evolve as a complete LB (both outside and inside if necessary) and Bernard can work the system that I think McDermott wants him to play, all of a sudden, the LBs turn from a weakness to a strength. I keep saying that Beane and McDermott seem to purposely want these smaller, quicker LBs for a reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, I'm Spartacus said: All right everyone, Cantankerous has his two fingers up in the gladiator submission gesture. Let's let him live to post another day 🙂 Okay, but just this once… 😁👍 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codger Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 5 hours ago, Big Turk said: "Hi...my name is AJ. I live on the 2nd floor... I live upstairs from you... Yes, I think I've seen you before..." Suzanne Vega lyrics about a kid named Luka. Wish "Luke-a" Kuechly was signed to the practice squad. Unfortunately the song is a sad story of an abused child. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: That's right. Give the Bills the Lombardi right now! Klien on the PS is not a bad thing at all. I know that a lot of fans have "completely" written off Dodson and Spector but I'm still holding out some hope that one of these young guys can become a decent depth ILB. If Williams can evolve as a complete LB (both outside and inside if necessary) and Bernard can work the system that I think McDermott wants him to play, all of a sudden, the LBs turn from a weakness to a strength. I keep saying that Beane and McDermott seem to purposely want these smaller, quicker LBs for a reason. If Williams gets tried at MLB, it won't be this season. McDermott isn't going to put a Rookie out there on the fly that's been exclusively playing another position all year. And Williams was put at OLB in large part because outside of Matt Milano, we have absolutely no one who can play the position - if he were to get hurt and when he needs a breather. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 Saw an ad on ESPN for article on ESPN on Christian Kirksey retiring and AJ Klein replacing him on practice squad: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38453333/lb-christian-kirksey-informs-bills-retiring-nfl I hope AJ Klein's agent is looking at that as opportunity to do an ad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: That's right. Give the Bills the Lombardi right now! Klien on the PS is not a bad thing at all. I know that a lot of fans have "completely" written off Dodson and Spector but I'm still holding out some hope that one of these young guys can become a decent depth ILB. If Williams can evolve as a complete LB (both outside and inside if necessary) and Bernard can work the system that I think McDermott wants him to play, all of a sudden, the LBs turn from a weakness to a strength. I keep saying that Beane and McDermott seem to purposely want these smaller, quicker LBs for a reason. Klein back in the building is a very good thing actually. Especially McDermott's vision , he knows how the game is played and can teach. Also can actually play in a pinch with some tweaks to coverage schemes. But having him on PS is really rather excellent. I appreciate your attitude about Lombardi ! Also about what McBeanes want from the LB position. Go Bills 2 hours ago, Captain Caveman said: How long before the Bears trade us Edmunds for a 4th (and they retain 50% of his salary) well he would have to switch to OLB LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 21, 2023 Share Posted September 21, 2023 10 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Klein back in the building is a very good thing actually. Especially McDermott's vision , he knows how the game is played and can teach. Also can actually play in a pinch with some tweaks to coverage schemes. But having him on PS is really rather excellent. I look at him like David Webb - his primary job is different than playing but if needed he can step in and perform. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: well he would have to switch to OLB LOL You think he's gonna replace Milano? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 9 hours ago, cantankerous said: Can’t Beane do better than AJ Klein? Smh. Yes, Luke Kuechly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Klein was paid millions before. Now, he will paid PS rates? Isn't that how it works when you are on the PS, a fixed rate, same for all? It shows he is committed (and hope to get back as an active obviously) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 One man wrecking crew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Klein was paid millions before. Now, he will paid PS rates? Isn't that how it works when you are on the PS, a fixed rate, same for all? It shows he is committed (and hope to get back as an active obviously) Not the same for all. Veterans get paid more than players with less experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Not the same for all. Veterans get paid more than players with less experience. But it is a predetermined (league wide) PS amount, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 The reason AJ Klein has played 10 seasons in the NFL is because he's ultra-competitive... he was legendary at Iowa State for his competitive fire. I'd bet he has his eyes on Kirksey's team record of 21 days on the practice squad before retiring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jerome007 said: But it is a predetermined (league wide) PS amount, correct? https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-practice-squad-salary-eligibility-rules-2023/vuvavtn3mbkq68spwkb5k8pz#:~:text=They are broken up into,rest of the current CBA. NFL practice squad salaries There are two separate brackets that the NFL uses to determine practice squad salaries. They are broken up into players with two or fewer seasons in the NFL, and then those considered NFL veterans. Yes. Teams used to be able to decide themselves but it was abused (i.e. one team paid player on PS as much as player would have gotten if on 53 list to keep him from leaving) so NFL standardized rates and added enhanced callups and protections. Players who have accrued two or fewer NFL seasons are paid weekly at a fixed rate. The salary is set at $12,000 in 2023, but is going to increase each year throughout the rest of the current CBA. 17 practice games x $12,000 = $204,000 plus playoff games NFL veterans do not have a set salary rate. Instead, they hold the ability to negotiate the dollar amount on their deal, albeit it is not a large range for the salary. The minimum weekly salary for a vet on the practice squad in 2023 is $16,100, while the maximum is $20,600. 17 practice games x max $20,600 = $350,200 plus playoff games Edited September 22, 2023 by Limeaid added more info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Limeaid said: NFL veterans do not have a set salary rate. Instead, they hold the ability to negotiate the dollar amount on their deal, albeit it is not a large range for the salary. The minimum weekly salary for a vet on the practice squad in 2023 is $16,100, while the maximum is $20,600. 17 practice games x max $20,600 = $350,200 plus playoff games This may explain CK’s retirement. A huge pay reduction, and it appears with a narrowing chance to get signed to the varsity squad, not worth the time at this stage of his career. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Limeaid said: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-practice-squad-salary-eligibility-rules-2023/vuvavtn3mbkq68spwkb5k8pz#:~:text=They are broken up into,rest of the current CBA. NFL practice squad salaries There are two separate brackets that the NFL uses to determine practice squad salaries. They are broken up into players with two or fewer seasons in the NFL, and then those considered NFL veterans. Yes. Teams used to be able to decide themselves but it was abused (i.e. one team paid player on PS as much as player would have gotten if on 53 list to keep him from leaving) so NFL standardized rates and added enhanced callups and protections. Players who have accrued two or fewer NFL seasons are paid weekly at a fixed rate. The salary is set at $12,000 in 2023, but is going to increase each year throughout the rest of the current CBA. 17 practice games x $12,000 = $204,000 plus playoff games NFL veterans do not have a set salary rate. Instead, they hold the ability to negotiate the dollar amount on their deal, albeit it is not a large range for the salary. The minimum weekly salary for a vet on the practice squad in 2023 is $16,100, while the maximum is $20,600. 17 practice games x max $20,600 = $350,200 plus playoff games Not a bad gig really! Does he get to keep the uniform? (Does he get a uniform?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 (edited) So much for Beane referring to him as "terminated" haha Could this be insurance due to Bernard's injury? Edit: NVM I just saw Kirksey is retiring. Does someone do this to us every year? Sheesh Edited September 22, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 Such spicy hot takes for a back end of the roster transaction. Teams are doing this all the time. Did you know that the Pats signed backup QB Will Grier to their 53 from the Bengals practice squad? Or that the Jets signed OT Cedric Obguehi to their practice squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 On 9/21/2023 at 11:01 AM, cantankerous said: Can’t Beane do better than AJ Klein? Smh. While Klein lacks in the athleticism department, he knows the scheme and understands exactly what he's supposed to do. My guess is Dorian Williams is getting a crash course in the complex MLB position for the Bills, and when he can handle the basics of the position, Klein might become expendable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 10 hours ago, CSBill said: This may explain CK’s retirement. A huge pay reduction, and it appears with a narrowing chance to get signed to the varsity squad, not worth the time at this stage of his career. Not sure I could survive on a paltry 16K weekly… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 33 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: While Klein lacks in the athleticism department, he knows the scheme and understands exactly what he's supposed to do. My guess is Dorian Williams is getting a crash course in the complex MLB position for the Bills, and when he can handle the basics of the position, Klein might become expendable. Klein is not here just to teach for if that was case Kirksey would not have been signed. How could Kirksey give Dorian Williams a crash course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 19 hours ago, Captain Caveman said: You think he's gonna replace Milano? I was speaking to bringing back Edmunds It was popular opinion at one time Edmunds would be better served to play outside 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 22, 2023 Share Posted September 22, 2023 1 hour ago, 3rdand12 said: I was speaking to bringing back Edmunds It was popular opinion at one time Edmunds would be better served to play outside 🙂 It would certainly be better for Edmunds needing to cover less space. He will be much more effective on a team with true 3-4 alignment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted September 23, 2023 Share Posted September 23, 2023 20 hours ago, Limeaid said: It would certainly be better for Edmunds needing to cover less space. He will be much more effective on a team with true 3-4 alignment. yes. I was partially mocking us here. the continued suggestion he would be better at OLB than MLB. But i certainly have moved on from him( Edmunds) Go Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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