Hebert19 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Said this when he signed with bears and I will say it again now. Edmunds while frustrating sometimes made this defense what it was. Hyde and poyer looked slow out there. Mark my words we will get torched over the middle this year when not playing Zack Wilson, and give up many long runs. 1 2 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Yea but we gave Ed Oliver a big contract so they won't even get to the LB right? Right?? Did Ed play last night? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 interesting that we had 8 man fronts on defense with Rapp in the box as MLB at many points. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said: Yea but we gave Ed Oliver a big contract so they won't even get to the LB right? Right?? Did Ed play last night? Oliver actually played decent last night. Doubt he plays up to his contract, but run defense seemed a lot better when he was in. 5 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Said this when he signed with bears and I will say it again now. Edmunds while frustrating sometimes made this defense what it was. Hyde and poyer looked slow out there. Mark my words we will get torched over the middle this year when not playing Zack Wilson, and give up many long runs. We signed Taylor Rapp for a reason. He may be starting sooner than later... and regardless of injury to boot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Lol here we go!!! tell me you don’t know what your talking about without telling me you don’t know what your talking about! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Said this when he signed with bears and I will say it again now. Edmunds while frustrating sometimes made this defense what it was. Hyde and poyer looked slow out there. Mark my words we will get torched over the middle this year when not playing Zack Wilson, and give up many long runs. Ya think. LOL Funny how our "genius defensive mind" couldn't envision that. Seems blatant. Edited September 12, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, boyst said: interesting that we had 8 man fronts on defense with Rapp in the box as MLB at many points. Exactly this guy has no idea Edmunds fan boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Drew21PA said: Lol here we go!!! tell me you don’t know what your talking about without telling me you don’t know what your talking about! please don't use this stupid phrase 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, nucci said: please don't use this stupid phrase True though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Yea but we gave Ed Oliver a big contract so they won't even get to the LB right? Right?? Did Ed play last night? Yes, he led all DLinemen in tackles. Thanks for letting us know how trustworthy your sharp observations are. 4 minutes ago, boyst said: interesting that we had 8 man fronts on defense with Rapp in the box as MLB at many points. Did you see much of that in the first half? I saw them running it later, but not really earlier. 1 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 It doesn’t take the loss of Edmunds to expose this version of Hyde and Poyer. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YodaMan79 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Besides a couple of big runs from Hall, the D played well. Edmunds is not the guy that makes or breaks that unit. Hell of an athlete, but a reactive player, with no instinct. They had to let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Yea but we gave Ed Oliver a big contract so they won't even get to the LB right? Right?? Did Ed play last night? the contracts for Edmunds and Oliver are nearly similar, but they went with the disappearing DT. I said this offseason, Trade Oliver, free up over 10 mill in cap room and add to the team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: Yes, he led all DLinemen in tackles. Thanks for letting us know how trustworthy your sharp observations are. Did you see much of that in the first half? I saw them running it later, but not really earlier. I did not see it early. I may rewatch this game. Hackett showed the ability to change his style midgame, very unlike him. Once they got confidence in Hall and he got confident with himself it changed the game. I definitely noticed Rapp being the leader of the defense when he moved in the box. Adjusting players, calling out formations, etc. Very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Jets have big fast LBs. We have players size of DBs playing LB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Hyde looked decent to me. Neither safety has ever been a burner. was it Benford who was able to catch up to Hall and keep him out of the end zone? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Said this when he signed with bears and I will say it again now. Edmunds while frustrating sometimes made this defense what it was. Hyde and poyer looked slow out there. Mark my words we will get torched over the middle this year when not playing Zack Wilson, and give up many long runs. Not even Edmunds in particular, rather the complete lack of planning for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, nucci said: Jets have big fast LBs. We have players size of DBs playing LB Jets linebackers are fricken incredible. Milano plays bigger than he is. The other guys are tiny or slow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Yea but we gave Ed Oliver a big contract so they won't even get to the LB right? Right?? Did Ed play last night? He had a very good game last night, something like six pressures per YardsPerPass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: Exactly this guy has no idea Edmunds fan boy Not in the first half we didn't. Also, that's a trash exaggeration. At least bring truth to the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hyde looked decent to me. Neither safety has ever been a burner. was it Benford who was able to catch up to Hall and keep him out of the end zone? Yes, he chased down Hall. Good thing that Wilson was celebrating early and decided not to block!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Jets linebackers are fricken incredible. Milano plays bigger than he is. The other guys are tiny or slow. Well, remember, it's by design. McBeane want faster coverage guys in the back 7. So that's what we have. And they do that pretty well. It simply comes at an expense. Edited September 12, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: Lol here we go!!! tell me you don’t know what your talking about without telling me you don’t know what your talking about! OK. I'll bite. What's not right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, nucci said: Jets have big fast LBs. We have players size of DBs playing LB Jets aren’t that big at LB. They’re just good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: Not in the first half we didn't. Also, that's a trash exaggeration. At least bring truth to the discussion. Those runs had NOTHING to do with poyer and Hyde!!!! blame Tre for the 80 yard scamper lol. Duh you bring legitimate argument to the table 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Drew21PA said: Those runs had NOTHING to do with poyer and Hyde!!!! blame Tre for the 80 yard scamper lol. Duh you bring legitimate argument to the table Trey had two very big missed tackles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 People love to grab the low hanging fruit regardless of how dumb it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: Exactly this guy has no idea Edmunds fan boy How do you figure. He's actually agreeing. 8 man box means they couldn't stop the run with 7. Also Wilson couldn't test what I was saying. Let's see what adams does next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Hebert19 said: OK. I'll bite. What's not right? You’re blaming Hyde and poyer for what? run support? I saw Tre white whiff not those guys? Take away that run that Tre whiffed on and - well it’s a respectable run stopping night actually ? Nothing the defense did last night was remotely bad - was better in my opinion so how are you right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, Airseven said: It doesn’t take the loss of Edmunds to expose this version of Hyde and Poyer. And feel free to include Tre as someone who looked slow. He's not the same since the injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: Those runs had NOTHING to do with poyer and Hyde!!!! blame Tre for the 80 yard scamper lol. Duh you bring legitimate argument to the table Poyer definitely had something to do with the Hall's long run 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: How do you figure. He's actually agreeing. 8 man box means they couldn't stop the run with 7. Also Wilson couldn't test what I was saying. Let's see what adams does next week. I bet Adam’s won’t do a thing. Jimmy g will throw multiple picks and under 200 rhe world will be right again Just now, Simon said: Poyer definitely had something to do with the Hall's long run What? Tre completely blew his assignment lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: Those runs had NOTHING to do with poyer and Hyde!!!! blame Tre for the 80 yard scamper lol. Duh you bring legitimate argument to the table Hahaha. Watch again. Hyde came running up too fast and ran right into a blocker then hall embarrassed poyer like he wad a high school player in open field. 1 minute ago, Simon said: Poyer definitely had something to do with the Hall's long run As did Hyde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Drew21PA said: I bet Adam’s won’t do a thing. Jimmy g will throw multiple picks and under 200 rhe world will be right again What? Tre completely blew his assignment lol You might want to watch the entire play instead of just White. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: You’re blaming Hyde and poyer for what? run support? I saw Tre white whiff not those guys? Take away that run that Tre whiffed on and - well it’s a respectable run stopping night actually ? Nothing the defense did last night was remotely bad - was better in my opinion so how are you right? If you read it. I also said it will be more in pass game. But watch that run again. See who had a shot at him. 1 minute ago, Simon said: You might want to watch the entire play instead of just White. This. Hyde and poyer both had a shot. Both looked old and slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, Hebert19 said: If you read it. I also said it will be more in pass game. But watch that run again. See who had a shot at him. Ok where were they out of position on pass game? wilson didn’t do anything - their wrs did NOTHING… josh Allen gave them a short field and momentum period im done eating my time on this really terrible hot take Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 52 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Hyde came running up too fast and ran right into a blocker then hall embarrassed poyer like he wad a high school player in open field. As did Hyde. Hyde was on the other half of the field and had nothing to do with that gap. Poyer got caught in no man's land, probably because he was eyeing somebody else's assignment. Rousseau wasn't wide enough and got buried by a good double. My guess is that Bernard was the primary culprit there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Edmunds is by no means elite but he fits the defense we played. Hyde and Poyer are just slow now, that's their main issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: the contracts for Edmunds and Oliver are nearly similar, but they went with the disappearing DT. I said this offseason, Trade Oliver, free up over 10 mill in cap room and add to the team. I thought Oliver had one of his best games as a Bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, PBF81 said: Well, remember, it's by design. McBeane want faster coverage guys in the back 7. So that's what we have. And they do that pretty well. It simply comes at an expense. right, that’s the Tremaine loss. Not a stud play maker, but range speed and size. Hopefully Kirksey can still do it, then I feel better about the middle of the defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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