dave mcbride Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 (edited) Some eye-opening numbers from last night: The Bills held the lead for 37 minutes and 18 seconds of regulation. The Jets held the lead for 1 minute and 46 seconds of regulation. The score was tied for 20 minutes and 56 seconds of regulation. Josh Allen dropped back 46 times (41 attempts; 5 sacks) and ran it another six times (half of which were scrambles if I recall correctly). The Bills' running backs ran it 16 times. Think about that. Edited September 12, 2023 by dave mcbride 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 And then calls a run on 2nd and 15 in OT. Think about that! 5 4 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Yes thought about it. dorsey had a heck of a game plan for that defense. All Josh needed to do was take the open player. He didn’t. that is an often thing with him and will get put in the OC. just like it did with Daboll and now it is with Dorsey. I think people need to start putting a lot of the blame on the shoulders of 17 where it belongs 7 1 6 1 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Ok so we lost it at the end and HOW is this all on DORSEY? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: And then calls a run on 2nd and 15 in OT. Think about that! It was a bad call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, MAJBobby said: Yes thought about it. dorsey had a heck of a game plan for that defense. All Josh needed to do was take the open player. He didn’t. that is an often thing with him and will get put in the OC. just like it did with Daboll and now it is with Dorsey. I think people need to start putting a lot of the blame on the shoulders of 17 where it belongs We haven't agreed on a lot in the past, but we damned sure agree on this. The plan was working, in the first half, allen was completing passes at a 70% clip, with only the one egregious error. Then his head ensconced itself firmly in the backside and he lost the script 2 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Dorsey should be much further along than he is at this point if he's ever going to be any good. Our coaching staff is like an experiment to see how less-than-optimal coaches can do with a talent like Allen. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Dorsey's whole plan is "hey Josh, throw a couple quick passes to Harty, Cook and Kincaid...then when things go sideways make chicken salad, 'er lemonade...or whatever that saying is, Okay Josh?" Dorsey stinks. I expect things to get better vs. anyone but the Jets, but the O needs to look ALOT better this week. Dorsey needs a bounce back game as much as Josh. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 We’re still not ready to admit Josh played like ***** again, huh? 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yes thought about it. dorsey had a heck of a game plan for that defense. All Josh needed to do was take the open player. He didn’t. that is an often thing with him and will get put in the OC. just like it did with Daboll and now it is with Dorsey. I think people need to start putting a lot of the blame on the shoulders of 17 where it belongs The game plan didn’t seem bad to me watching live. A lot of short quick release passes designed to get the ball out and protect the QB. Allen is incapable of such a game plan though. His intrusive thoughts take over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Yes thought about it. dorsey had a heck of a game plan for that defense. All Josh needed to do was take the open player. He didn’t. that is an often thing with him and will get put in the OC. just like it did with Daboll and now it is with Dorsey. I think people need to start putting a lot of the blame on the shoulders of 17 where it belongs Hardly ever running it leads to jailbreaks on pass rushes versus an overmatched o-line. And that's what happened -- 5 sacks and a lot of hits. Of course Allen was terrible too, but the OC didn't help him. Just now, stevestojan said: We’re still not ready to admit Josh played like ***** again, huh? Not my point; of course he was terrible. But more than one thing was bad last night, and the two things -- OC and QB -- fed each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, zow2 said: Dorsey's whole plan is "hey Josh, throw a couple quick passes to Harty, Cook and Kincaid...then when things go sideways make chicken salad, 'er lemonade...or whatever that saying is, Okay Josh?" Dorsey stinks. I expect things to get better vs. anyone but the Jets, but the O needs to look ALOT better this week. Dorsey needs a bounce back game as much as Josh. Did Dorsey force two balls into double coverage downfield when the check down was open for a big gainer? did Dorsey once again be so arrogant in his arm to try and thread another into double coverage after staring down Davis? did Dorsey leave the pockets when not needed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, stevestojan said: We’re still not ready to admit Josh played like ***** again, huh? Who's we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 With the lone exception of the FG drive to tie it, we did nothing in the second half. Or staff routinely gets out-adjusted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Not gonna blame Dorsey at all Like Miami loss last year - Josh Allen puked on himself and lost it for us - period josh allen lost that game all on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, NewEra said: And then calls a run on 2nd and 15 in OT. Think about that! Not just any run, but a run right at Q. And they kept running right at him. With no success. The few times that they ran a stretch it worked really well, except the play that they didn't block Q. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 12, 2023 Author Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, ScottLaw said: Sorry, but Allen created a lot of those sacks on his own…bailing pockets because he was flustered…. Apparently he still very much needs a veteran guy to reel him in. If you run the ball a lot defensive line movement is different -- it's more lateral. It literally slows down pass rushes, which is why teams do it. He was sacked 5 times and hit 9 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The game plan didn’t seem bad to me watching live. A lot of short quick release passes designed to get the ball out and protect the QB. Allen is incapable of such a game plan though. His intrusive thoughts take over. Yeah, but it isn't just his brain that fails him on the short passes. Josh's touch on short passes has always been, well... basically non existent. Even if we could block for a screen pass worth a game, Josh routinely fails to place the ball in an easy way for the catcher to grab and run. It's a real problem, for an elite defense like the Jets that can take away the long game and apply great pressure there's almost no answer for it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: The game plan didn’t seem bad to me watching live. A lot of short quick release passes designed to get the ball out and protect the QB. Allen is incapable of such a game plan though. His intrusive thoughts take over. This. And that is not on Dorsey. Just like it isn’t on McD. Just like it wasn’t in Daboll. I get it we are going to live and die with Josh Allen like all teams do. but it is also ok to put the blame on him when warranted and not the OC like has been the history of a lot of this fan base with Josh Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted September 12, 2023 Share Posted September 12, 2023 Just now, PBF81 said: With the lone exception of the FG drive to tie it, we did nothing in the second half. Or staff routinely gets out-adjusted. Weird - because I saw theee times where we were moving the ball consistently and then - boom josh Allen gave it back to the jets? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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