BullBuchanan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 8/27/2023 at 1:32 PM, buffblue said: How many of these guys have been the difference makers in their team reaching the Super Bowl? Exactly zero. It's not hard to figure out why. The only teams that foolishly waste big money on the position are the ones who lack a long term, franchise qb. Without one of those, you're not winning anything regardless of how good your running back room may be. Todd Gurley was in 2018 The combination of Devonta Foreman and Tevin Colemen were in 2016 Marshawn lynch was in 2013 & 2014 Frank Gore & Ray Rice were in 2012 How much further do you want me to go back? In the last 20 years, we have been blessed with seeing most of the top 10 greatest QBs of all time, including the undisputed top 2 and likely top 3, many of them all competing for a Super Bowl simultaneously. Since then, we've introduced Mahomes, who's already top 10 all time. It shouldn't be any surprise that SB winners have been largely QB driven since that time. That doesn't mean that elite RBs don't help you get there and give you a better chance to win. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Todd Gurley was in 2018 The combination of Devonta Foreman and Tevin Colemen were in 2016 Marshawn lynch was in 2013 & 2014 Frank Gore & Ray Rice were in 2012 How much further do you want me to go back? In the last 20 years, we have been blessed with seeing most of the top 10 greatest QBs of all time, including the undisputed top 2 and likely top 3, many of them all competing for a Super Bowl simultaneously. Since then, we've introduced Mahomes, who's already top 10 all time. It shouldn't be any surprise that SB winners have been largely QB driven since that time. That doesn't mean that elite RBs don't help you get there and give you a better chance to win. Elite RBs like Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman lmao 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, FireChans said: Elite RBs like Devonta Freeman and Tevin Coleman lmao Do you have the memory of a goldfish? You don't remember them being an extremely dangerous 1-2 combo? They combined for 2100 yards and 16 touchdowns. They were effectively one powerhouse RB split as two players. Similar to Barber/Jacobs, Dunn/Alstott, etc. The Falcons heavily relied on them. Edited August 29, 2023 by BullBuchanan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Rumors circulating online that Dolphins close to finalizing trade for Taylor. If that happens, not only are the prohibitive favorites to win the division, but will likely challenge for a 17-0 season along with the Chiefs. 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 50 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Do you have the memory of a goldfish? You don't remember them being an extremely dangerous 1-2 combo? They combined for 2100 yards and 16 touchdowns. They were effectively one powerhouse RB split as two players. Similar to Barber/Jacobs, Dunn/Alstott, etc. The Falcons heavily relied on them. Yes, both elite HoF guys lol. or maybe they are proof that you don’t need elite players to have an elite rushing attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Rumors circulating online that Dolphins close to finalizing trade for Taylor. If that happens, not only are the prohibitive favorites to win the division, but will likely challenge for a 17-0 season along with the Chiefs. No way. Now that Kingsley Jonathan has made the Bills roster are the smart money is on the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Rumors circulating online that Dolphins close to finalizing trade for Taylor. If that happens, not only are the prohibitive favorites to win the division, but will likely challenge for a 17-0 season along with the Chiefs. They will have a close competition with the JETS to win the offseason!! Belly up Fins! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 This couldn’t be for trading for Jonathan Taylor now could it? It’s just unbelievable how the teams in our division makes all kinds of big moves and we do little to nothing. What is going on with this garbage??!!! 1 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Breathe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Yes, both elite HoF guys lol. or maybe they are proof that you don’t need elite players to have an elite rushing attack. And Lynch, Gore, Gurley? I know you hate being proven wrong, but picking one example you don't like (that's still valid btw), doesn't discredit the argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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4merper4mer Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: And Lynch, Gore, Gurley? I know you hate being proven wrong, but picking one example you don't like (that's still valid btw), doesn't discredit the argument. You forgot Eric Dickerson and Paul Hornung. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: You forgot Eric Dickerson and Paul Hornung. sure add them to the list. They played in 2018 when Gurley did, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 9 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: And Lynch, Gore, Gurley? I know you hate being proven wrong, but picking one example you don't like (that's still valid btw), doesn't discredit the argument. Frank Gore didn’t win a Super Bowl. Neither did Gurley. Do you wanna do a list of how many SB’s HoF QB’s won vs HoF RB’s? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 You'd think this was the start of free agency or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said: Rumors circulating online that Dolphins close to finalizing trade for Taylor. If that happens, not only are the prohibitive favorites to win the division, but will likely challenge for a 17-0 season along with the Chiefs. There are a couple ways to look at this. Is trading for Jonathan Taylor a smart move for the Dolphins long-term, considering the draft compensation it will require AND the huge contract? The answer is almost certainly no. But will Taylor make the Dolphins a harder opponent for us in the short-term, making it much more difficult to win the AFC East, end up with homefield advantage, and ultimately reach our goal of winning the Super Bowl? The answer is almost certainly yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Tipster19 said: This couldn’t be for trading for Jonathan Taylor now could it? It’s just unbelievable how the teams in our division makes all kinds of big moves and we do little to nothing. What is going on with this garbage??!!! And yet we won our division last year by more games than any other team in the NFL. And played one less game. Remarkable isn't it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, FireChans said: Frank Gore didn’t win a Super Bowl. Neither did Gurley. Do you wanna do a list of how many SB’s HoF QB’s won vs HoF RB’s? "Winning" a super bowl was not the challenge. Getting a team to the super bowl was. If you want to move the goalposts so that you can find a way to be right, go ahead but I'm not interested in that discussion. Edited August 29, 2023 by BullBuchanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 We have big contracts to feed, the Dolphins are paying Tua peanuts this year compared to Buffalo and Josh. Take a lap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 No trade 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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