Florida Bills Fanatic Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I think it shows the seat is a LOT cooler than a lot of fans want it to be and the media have speculated it is. I see almost no way this regime doesn't remain into 2024 at the very least. And the likelihood is the rope is a fair bit longer. Part of the reason why is surely that Terry knows he isn't great at these appointments. For all that McD and Beane ain't perfect and there are legit holes you can pick in both, they are overwhelmingly the two best hires that Pegs has made across multiple attempts for two franchises. Exactly! When you watch the teams that change leadership frequently, they are an ongoing clown show. It is hard to consistently win in the NFL and these guys have shown the ability to build a good roster and win games to compete for a championship. New GM's and coaches most often want to purge a roster and get their guys which usually leads to a significant rebuild (losing season) There is no guarantee that a new coach and GM would do better than these guys. In fact when you look around the league, many new coaches have not been a significant improvement over the guys they replaced. At best it is a roll of the dice. For the people that want a change, I'd be interested to know who the sure fire improvement replacement candidates would be. When I look around the league at the last few coaching changes, most don't strike me as an improvement ( TB, Carolina, AZ, Chargers, Saints, Minnesota, Browns, Colts, Atlanta ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Gregg said: Even the media speculated McDermott could be on the hot seat if the Bills suffered another playoff disappointment. It's understandable the fans would feel the same way. But the only opinion that count's is Terry's and he sees it differently. Media would speculate the earth is flat if it would get the hits. The fans? Too much drinking killed brain cells. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Just now, Limeaid said: Media would speculate the earth is flat if it would get the hits. The fans? Too much drinking killed brain cells. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 40 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: The only part I winced at is "Proud, Christian, determined man." Like his religious beliefs have anything to do with anything. If he were Buddhist, would it have been mentioned? Cry about it 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, Lost said: We really need to get back to talking about Tremaine Edmunds Oh great. ANOTHER Edmunds thread. Just because he signed in Chicago, it doesn't stop the party... Is Ertz far behind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 33 minutes ago, The Wiz said: The Buffalo Jills need to be brought back? They are too old now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Once again here we are. No one is saying Super Bowl isn't the goal. The difference in opinion is that we think McDermott and Beane are putting us in a position to achieve that goal. You think that McDermott is a detriment to that goal - that we cannot win it with him because he is not capable of it. Well thanks Tuel, one of your more congenial and substantive posts to me. 🙂 Having said that, three wild-card round wins, two over crap teams without QBs, and twice barely, and a single divisional round win, all with Allen, arguably the most athletically gifted and unique QB in league history, hardly stacks the evidence for a future Championship in your corner. For contrast, compare the 90s team's playoff performances with a notably lesser QB. We keep hearing from your side about this "positioning," perhaps you or some one can explain how many seasons/years of "positioning" is sufficient before a Championship can be expected? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I’m good with this. The Bills have been one of the best teams in the NFL for the majority of McBeane’s tenure. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-total-nfl-wins-last-5-years 4th in the NFL in total wins from 2018-present. You don’t just throw that away. Be as good as you can for as long as you can… We’ve been attracting good NFL free agents wanting to chase Super Bowls for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Sane fans who enjoy winning: “Awesome!” Other fans: “How many of those are void years?” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Added Reid to your list as took him 21 years to win the SB. Reid only won because of Mahomes. Belichick is a .500 coach without Tom. At least Marv got us to 4 SB's with a QB substantially "less talented" than Josh. What's Sean's excuse, because there always is one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Added Reid to your list as took him 21 years to win the SB. If Reid had had Allen in Philly, do you think it would have changed anything in that way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetou Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 47 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: It's funny. So many folks thought it was Super Bowl or Bust for McD. Apparently, Terry didn't see it that way. I'm personally happy. After 17 years of hopelessness, we finally have a legitimate shot at the Lombardi with these two. You can't win the dance competition without a ticket to the dance. These guys give us tickets. I'm not particularly negative on McDermott, but Josh Allen is the ticket. Let's not kid ourselves. Beane hit with him and he's going to be riding that goodwill for a while. It's not easy to take a risk and find a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 57 minutes ago, NewEra said: I read a report that states McD and Beane were secretly conspiring to walk out on the team if they weren’t given an extension. They voiced their concerns with resignation papers in hand. Terry folded to the pressure and here we are. You must have the same source as that Albany writer who said Bills were moving to Austin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: I’m good with this. The Bills have been one of the best teams in the NFL for the majority of McBeane’s tenure. https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-total-nfl-wins-last-5-years 4th in the NFL in total wins from 2018-present. You don’t just throw that away. Be as good as you can for as long as you can… We’ve been attracting good NFL free agents wanting to chase Super Bowls for a reason. No one is questioning our prowess in the regular season, no one. Edited June 23, 2023 by PBF81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 I read a report that Diggs was mad because these two weren't extended yet. Where's that report again?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Fetou said: I'm not particularly negative on McDermott, but Josh Allen is the ticket. Let's not kid ourselves. Beane hit with him and he's going to be riding that goodwill for a while. It's not easy to take a risk and find a QB. The question boils down to whether or not McD, a defensive head coach, has what out takes to turn that ticket into a winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 Guys, head coaches and GM’s are NEVER fired the season after receiving a lengthy extension. https://www.azcardinals.com/news/steve-keim-kliff-kingsbury-receive-contract-extensions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Reid only won because of Mahomes. Belichick is a .500 coach without Tom. At least Marv got us to 4 SB's with a QB substantially "less talented" than Josh. What's Sean's excuse, because there always is one. 2 minutes ago, PBF81 said: If Reid had had Allen in Philly, do you think it would have changed anything in that way? Reid had McNabb who was a very good QB, but Reid still couldn't win with him. One page I found had him ranked 26th all time. Comparing Kelly to Allen is kind of pointless as a different era. While Allen would have been bigger than any QB back then he also may not have survived as well back then due to the pounding he'd have taken and defenses didn't need to worry as much about getting flagged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Once again here we are. No one is saying Super Bowl isn't the goal. The difference in opinion is that we think McDermott and Beane are putting us in a position to achieve that goal. You think that McDermott is a detriment to that goal - that we cannot win it with him because he is not capable of it. Yes, I absolutely think he is a detriment. Josh single-handedly will guarantee us 10-12 wins every year. Not McDermott and his mediocre game day decisions. But come playoff time with high leverage teams and opposing HC's, Clappy melts. Games like blowing a 16-0 lead in Houston or 13 seconds only validates that argument. I'm telling ya he'll always guarantee you that "stability" and I think Terry is in love with that concept. But climbing the top of Mt. Lombardi is not something Sean will be capable of. Edited June 23, 2023 by LABILLBACKER 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, Lost said: We really need to get back to talking about Tremaine Edmunds We are talking about Tremaine Edmunds - part of the reason why they got extended is they made the wise decision to not extend him at figure Bears paid. 24 minutes ago, MikePJ76 said: s0rry 0n my macb00k at the m0ment. and yes the 0h key is n0t w0rking. You might try a visual keyboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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