HappyDays Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 45 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: You guys in legal states can win some good money potentially. https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/nfl/dalton-kincaid-bills-rookie-receiving-yards-nfl-odds-bm06/ Dalton Kincaid Odds for AP Offensive Rookie of the Year Bills rookie Dalton Kincaid is currently +3000, or 30-to-1, at the BetMGM online sportsbook. A TE has never won OROY. A bet I placed is +1400 for Kincaid to have the most receiving yards out of all rookies. I think that is a reasonably likely outcome given how much we pass and how much Allen has specifically thrown the ball to a good slot WR (Beasley) before. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 ***Conservative Est.*** 45 receptions 540 yards 4 TD's ***High Est. (If Dorsey actually utilizes him in the slot more than 2 TE sets)*** 65 receptions 770 yards 6 TD's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, BigDingus said: ***Conservative Est.*** 45 receptions 540 yards 4 TD's ***High Est. (If Dorsey actually utilizes him in the slot more than 2 TE sets)*** 65 receptions 770 yards 6 TD's If I had to decide, I’d take closer to the higher end than lower end. Actually reaching the higher end would be awesome as a rookie with other targets on the field. I’d LOVE to be surprised! He runs and moves like a smaller guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Augie said: If I had to decide, I’d take closer to the higher end than lower end. Actually reaching the higher end would be awesome as a rookie with other targets on the field. I’d LOVE to be surprised! He runs and moves like a smaller guy. My conservative estimate is geared towards Dorsey rotating him in for 2 TE sets & empty backfields trying to spread the field. In that situation, I can see him used to create mismatches in the redzone or attempts to stretch the field. He may have numbers similar to Gabe Davis's rookie year, with slightly higher YPC (not than Gabe, but than my higher est). But if Dorsey commits to using him a lot more & gives him significant reps in the slot, he may lean more towards Cole Beasley's numbers and used a lot to move the chains. I don't think TD differential will be that much, but he'll have a more opportunities in the offense. Edited August 2, 2023 by BigDingus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, BigDingus said: My conservative estimate is geared towards Dorsey rotating him in for 2 TE sets & empty backfields trying to spread the field. In that situation, I can see him used to create mismatches in the redzone or attempts to stretch the field. He may have numbers similar to Gabe Davis's rookie year, with slightly higher YPC. But if Dorsey commits to using him a lot more & gives him significant reps in the slot, he may lean more towards Cole Beasley's numbers and used a lot to move the chains. I don't think TD differential will be that much, but he'll have a more opportunities in the offense. OH! I get it! Forget almost everyone else. This whole season pretty much hinges on Dorsey, what he does and how he does it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted August 3, 2023 Author Share Posted August 3, 2023 On 6/11/2023 at 10:09 PM, Dan in Owego said: Want some thoughts on projection of numbers on our number one pick. I am bullish on him for some obvious reasons, and admittedly some homerish reasons as well. 750 yards 8 touchdowns Any one want to take an early June shot at this? I wanna go with 9 touchdowns now😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: A TE has never won OROY. A bet I placed is +1400 for Kincaid to have the most receiving yards out of all rookies. I think that is a reasonably likely outcome given how much we pass and how much Allen has specifically thrown the ball to a good slot WR (Beasley) before. I'd put a few bucks on a few other rookies in the yards category to hedge my bet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryMadman Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 50 rec, that's 3 per game avg 600 yards, that's 35 yards per game 5 or 6 TDs Those are very doable numbers as Josh is going to have 4500 yards and 40 TDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: A TE has never won OROY. A bet I placed is +1400 for Kincaid to have the most receiving yards out of all rookies. I think that is a reasonably likely outcome given how much we pass and how much Allen has specifically thrown the ball to a good slot WR (Beasley) before. And what if he wins NFL MVP? My $100 bet turns into $10,000,000? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: That would be just what Dr. Dorsey ordered. I'll settle for Kyle Pitts rookie year reception/yardage stats........70/1,000.......which were accumulated with bad QB play. Pitts was considered a better prospect but he was drafted as a 20 year old..........by comparison Kincaid is a seasoned veteran at 23. Kincaid (Oct 1999) is a year older than Pitts (Oct 2000). That said, I expect a soon to be 24 year old rookie to be ready to dominate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: You guys in legal states can win some good money potentially. https://sports.betmgm.com/en/blog/nfl/dalton-kincaid-bills-rookie-receiving-yards-nfl-odds-bm06/ Dalton Kincaid Odds for AP Offensive Rookie of the Year Bills rookie Dalton Kincaid is currently +3000, or 30-to-1, at the BetMGM online sportsbook. hell, i like this a bunch. if damar gets cut or our guys stay healthy i could see Tua (#2 odds) winning. Might round robin Tua with Josh, Mahomes and Burrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 On 6/30/2023 at 8:59 PM, pi2000 said: Love him as a prospect, but he's very very green as a TE. He has a lot to learn. I wouldn't be surprised if he's not on the gameday roster until mid-season. This team is in win now mode with an experienced TE already on the roster. thank goodness he will be TE only by name and will be in the slot more than half his snaps.... out of his in line snaps, id bet 70% of those hes lined up as the F (flex TE). Him and Knox play diff positions at this point, but youd know that if you dug below the most surface level scout report 9 hours ago, NewEra said: Mmhmmm. Placed my wager a month ago. It’s down to +2500 on most sites I see now +4500 on fanduel 11 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: I'll actually take it a step further. I think there is a very real chance that at the end of the year he has more catches and yards than Knox. Nothing against Knox, either...he will still get his. Josh loves using his slot guys and that's where Kincaid will be. not to mention im already sensing Knox will be helping out Spencer again a lot this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 46 catches 490 yards 5 TDs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 5 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: thank goodness he will be TE only by name and will be in the slot more than half his snaps.... out of his in line snaps, id bet 70% of those hes lined up as the F (flex TE). Him and Knox play diff positions at this point, but youd know that if you dug below the most surface level scout report +4500 on fanduel not to mention im already sensing Knox will be helping out Spencer again a lot this year Yeah- fanduel has the best bettor odds by far. Too bad I’m in Vegas. Fanduel isn’t allowed here. Next stop, Utah, doesn’t allow it either 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 47 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yeah- fanduel has the best bettor odds by far. Too bad I’m in Vegas. Fanduel isn’t allowed here. Next stop, Utah, doesn’t allow it either 😢 Should be good to go in Arizona thought right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 I don't think that numbers will fully show his impact. 600 yards and 8 TD would be at the high end of expectations, and I would be thrilled if he hit that. Diggs is still going to eat, but I like this as a 1-2 punch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 14 hours ago, HappyDays said: A TE has never won OROY. A bet I placed is +1400 for Kincaid to have the most receiving yards out of all rookies. I think that is a reasonably likely outcome given how much we pass and how much Allen has specifically thrown the ball to a good slot WR (Beasley) before. Tall order for a TE to have highest receiving yards. I understand that the WR class was not great but if one of them turns out to be a hit, it is typically easier for that WR to rack up yards compared to a TE. But if Kincaid somehow achieves that distinction, it will be fantastic for the Bills O. I have my expectations at 60 / 700 / 8 because as a true blue beaten Bills fan for 30+ years, I have learned to temper my expectations of any player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, mrags said: Should be good to go in Arizona thought right? Should be- idk- only go to Az for Bills games. Edit: i suppose i could pull over for the 2 miles of Az on the trip to and from St. George. how easy is it to open a fanduel account and put money in it? Can you use a debit card? Edited August 3, 2023 by NewEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, NewEra said: Should be- idk- only go to Az for Bills games. Edit: i suppose i could pull over for the 2 miles of Az on the trip to and from St. George. how easy is it to open a fanduel account and put money in it? Can you use a debit card? I did it years ago and almost never use it anymore. But if I remember it was fairly easy and quick. iirc, when I lived in Vegas I used to know people that would drive to AZ just to buy scratch offs. Likely works the same way. It’s only prohibited in NV because the Casinos have a deal so they don’t lose business Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 3, 2023 Share Posted August 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, mrags said: I did it years ago and almost never use it anymore. But if I remember it was fairly easy and quick. iirc, when I lived in Vegas I used to know people that would drive to AZ just to buy scratch offs. Likely works the same way. It’s only prohibited in NV because the Casinos have a deal so they don’t lose business Yeah- Vegas only allows daily fantasy betting other than their casinos and sports books. I’ll try it out on my next drive to St. George. Utah isn’t on board with sports betting. Hopefully that’ll change at some point 🙏🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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