Warriorspikes51 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) I'm sure Timmy Graham couldn't wait to open his mouth about this topic 26 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: WGR reporting we are OUT on DHop. You mean the same radio station that said he was traded to the Titans during their update weeks ago.....and then never apologized for it Edited June 1 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 47 minutes ago, HappyDays said: The Cowboys have Lamb, Gallup, and Cooks so I understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) 18 minutes ago, arcane said: This doesn't really illuminate anything. It ignores that the Bills could trivially make the cap space needed for the OBJ deal as mentioned many times. It would be one thing if the sources addressed this but it seems they just see our 2 mil in space and say "that's not 15"?? Bingo. This is just TIMMAH Graham pretending we can't simply restructure Tre or Dion and then add void years to any contract to spread the hit The article does claim they confirmed Beane spoke directly to Hopkins Edited June 1 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 2 hours ago, BuffBills51 said: I really believe he will end up in Cleveland. They have the money and the need for another decent receiver. We have the same need….and Cleveland’s group is def better than ours IMO. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) 34 minutes ago, HappyDays said: He still has not gotten the offer he wants which means we still have a chance. If some team like Houston offers him $40 million for two years, so be it. But that has not been the case. I believe we CAN give him the best offer if Beane is willing to make the necessary moves. The article from Graham has league executives acting like Buffalo is helpless. It takes 1 restructure to free up 6 mil in space. (which reportedly we have looked into with Tre White) Make it a 2 year deal worth 12 mil per and incentives on top of that, add a few void years....and his hit in 2023 can be less than 6 million Edited June 1 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Beane can and should figure this out. Would be an amazing WR group for at least this year. Teams will eventually and inevitably take Diggs away come playoffs and this would give us another legit established threat when that happens. Get Josh every weapon you can leaving no stone unturned. He wants to play here, and there’s no trade compensation or previous deal holding this up. Yes, I get he has to agree to any deal, but get creative. Tired of being one season away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 16 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: Weird vendetta against Gabe. We lost to Cincy as a higher seed at home. Yes, the 1 seed is important but you know what is more important... Keeping our blue chip talent healthy. Its luck/fortune, but we can't lose a Tre White, Micah Hyde, Von Miller, etc...or multiple of these guys. If we were 1 seed LY, we weren't getting past KC or Cincy (proven) with our secondary injuries (compiled by DL injuries). Gabe wasn't the cause of that... You seem to be one of the few arguing that Gabe a solid #2 receiver… when his 3 years of play suggest otherwise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 It’s ok because Gabe Davis is just as good and ready for a career year. 🤥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) Yeah. I'm not thinking this is going to happen... Before the draft, DeAndre Hopkins gave everyone the impression he wanted to play on a contender with an elite QB. That put us among a handful of NFL teams who could legitimately be competing for his services. But now that he's a free agent, reports are circulating that Hopkins spent this week visiting with the Texans. Yes, the same Texans who once traded him away for peanuts, have a rookie QB and were probably the NFL's worst team last year. Sorry folks. The guy is looking for $$$ above everything else. He isn't going to sign a value deal just for a chance to win a ring, which is clearly going to take us out of the running. Good news is that he probably won't be signing with Kansas City or Baltimore either. Edited June 1 by mjt328 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 6 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: It’s ok because Gabe Davis is just as good and ready for a career year. 🤥 Do you really believe what you just typed out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 I hope the Pats do overpay for him. Let them mess up their cap while wasting his last few good seasons catching from a lousy QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Do you really believe what you just typed out? Hopefully Kincaid proves to be an elite level talent. That will help Diggs and open things up for other players like Davis. It looks like Hopkins is going for the cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: You seem to be one of the few arguing that Gabe a solid #2 receiver… when his 3 years of play suggest otherwise. I've never said Gabe is a "solid #2". Instead, I've said: 1. Gabe is a non traditional #2 / serves his purpose in our offense 2. we don't need a true #2. We have a complimentary group of weapons now, to build around Josh/Diggs 3. Diggs should continue to get 160-170 targets per year; then remaining 300+ to Gabe, Kincaid, Shakir, Knox, Harty, Sherfield, and Rbs 4. Dhop will be too expensive, said this over a month ago. 5. At this point, adding Dhop renders Gabe or some combination of Kincaid/Knox less valuable/far less snaps in our offense. Which i don't think Beane desires, again at the cost of Dhop...key point being the cost 6. Cap implications: we have to get creative/leverage future capital to likely get Dhop....And even though it's possible, Beane has been less inclined to do this during his tenure. It likely disrupts 1-2 years of offseason signings/ability to resign our own and almost guarantees Ed and Gabe hit the open market. All of above is opinion, disagree if you will. But it's not based on me thinking Gabe gives us a solid #2 this year. I think there's a chance still he becomes that, but I'd expect we try to spread the ball around (ie: KC offense LY), and let each week's opponents allow us to dictate which matchups favor us more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 1 hour ago, BillsShredder83 said: I get the tired of the rumor mill angle, but washed up????? Lol you can tell 75% of this board watches one game a week and goes back to watching The Bachelor or Tenticle erotica Who says we don't have 3 TVs in our living rooms??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 But we already have 3 TE. Oh sorry, I was looking for the Zach Ertz thread - please continue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 With the two WRs Bills brought in for workouts this week Beane is blindfolded throwing darts hoping to hit the bullseye. Brutal, all these guys and still only one proven player. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 15 minutes ago, Blank Stare said: Beane can and should figure this out. Would be an amazing WR group for at least this year. Teams will eventually and inevitably take Diggs away come playoffs and this would give us another legit established threat when that happens. Get Josh every weapon you can leaving no stone unturned. He wants to play here, and there’s no trade compensation or previous deal holding this up. Yes, I get he has to agree to any deal, but get creative. Tired of being one season away. Pretty sure that’s why we drafted Kincaid Just now, BananaB said: With the two WRs Bills brought in for workouts this week Beane is blindfolded throwing darts hoping to hit the bullseye. Brutal, all these guys and still only one proven player. What the ***** are you even talking about? We had the number three office in the league last year let’s not act like they weren’t good 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Pretty sure that’s why we drafted Kincaid What the ***** are you even talking about? We had the number three office in the league last year let’s not act like they weren’t good Talking about all he unproven guys we got at WR heading into the season. Just like last year but now we have more of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 3 minutes ago, BananaB said: Talking about all he unproven guys we got at WR heading into the season. Just like last year but now we have more of them. We have pretty much the same group as last year with the number three offense in the league And we’ve added to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveorhatembillsfan4life Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 The good news is We can always count on Beasley and Smoke to be available come playoff time if needed! 🙄 I am putting my hope in that Kincaid becomes our best number 2 threat. I got to put some faith in Dorsey to find a way to get this kid the ball. I think he can be dynamic..take some burden off Gabe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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