"We can't get an impact WR in the 2nd round"

[Rigotz]

Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread?

 

It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" 

 

Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone:

- Deebo Samuel

- AJ Brown

- DK Metcalf

- Diontae Johnson

- Tee Higgins

- Michael Pittman

- Chase Claypool

- Elijah Moore

- Christian Watson

 

Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍

 

[Warriorspikes51]

  On 4/24/2023 at 7:33 PM, Rigotz said:

Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread?

 

It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" 

 

Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone:

- Deebo Samuel

- AJ Brown

- DK Metcalf

- Diontae Johnson

- Tee Higgins

- Michael Pittman

- Chase Claypool

- Elijah Moore

- Christian Watson

 

Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍

 

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seeing a common theme: Ole Miss.

 

Mingo would be a strong selection at 59

[dave mcbride]

  On 4/24/2023 at 7:33 PM, Rigotz said:

Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread?

 

It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" 

 

Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone:

- Deebo Samuel

- AJ Brown

- DK Metcalf

- Diontae Johnson

- Tee Higgins

- Michael Pittman

- Chase Claypool

- Elijah Moore

- Christian Watson

 

Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍

 

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You're forgetting Davante Adams, another second rounder. He's arguably the best receiver in the NFL.

[Bookie Man]

I mean just looking at what our roster is comprised of. 

 

Diggs - 5th 

Davis - 4th

Shakir - 5th

Sherfield - UDFA

Harty - UDFA

 

Could find a starter in any round. 

 

[Big Blitz]

Go OT, Mingo, AND trade for Hopkins.  
 

That’s my dream scenario.   

^^
 

Yes I’m good with Wright at 27 - if no OT trade back again - assuming we’ve done so already with Arizona for Nuke

[Buffalo_Stampede]

The last “weak” WR draft was the 2019 draft. A lot of great WRs were drafted that year.

 

Ive considered this a weak class but that’s based on the top of the 1st round. I don’t see a true WR1 prospect but there will be WR1’s drafted in this draft.

[mushypeaches]

I just threw up in my mouth a little bit at the memory of mortgaging a future 1st round pick just to trade up a few spots for Sammy Watkins

 

Please let our current GM never be that stupid.  It's a pretty low bar but a reasonable request

[John from Riverside]

Mims is going to end up being a player

[Buffalo Barbarian]

  On 4/24/2023 at 7:33 PM, Rigotz said:

Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread?

 

It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" 

 

Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone:

- Deebo Samuel

- AJ Brown

- DK Metcalf

- Diontae Johnson

- Tee Higgins

- Michael Pittman

- Chase Claypool

- Elijah Moore

- Christian Watson

 

Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍

 

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people are pessimistic because beane has not done well in the second. We should have Debo Samuel and DK Metcalf

 

we'll be optimistic when he picks a stud in this round

 

 

[Einstein's Dog]

Now do the failures, the flops, the misses.

 

I want the certainty of DHop over the roll of the dice WR and an overpay on the DL (looking at you Oliver).  Many of us (myself included) wanted a redistribution of assets to the offensive side of the ball and the FO has so far been on course (Edmunds gone, hardball on Poyer, Oliver iffy).   C'mon Beane bring it home with DHop!!!!

 

 

[NeverOutNick]

  On 4/24/2023 at 8:19 PM, John from Riverside said:

Mims is going to end up being a player

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I could see that. He’s in my top 10 for sure this year

[BADOLBILZ]

  On 4/24/2023 at 8:12 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

The last “weak” WR draft was the 2019 draft. A lot of great WRs were drafted that year.

 

Ive considered this a weak class but that’s based on the top of the 1st round. I don’t see a true WR1 prospect but there will be WR1’s drafted in this draft.

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Yeah because 2019 wasn't actually a weak WR draft.   Teams were just gun-shy from the bad WR drafts of 2015-2018.  That was a really significant and hard to explain dry spell where a lot of teams got burned.........which re-set the expected value of WR's in the draft.    Since 2019 there have been some tremendous WR drafts.   Bills haven't got much to show for it but there have been.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 4/24/2023 at 9:03 PM, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah because 2019 wasn't actually a weak WR draft.   Teams were just gun-shy from the bad WR drafts of 2015-2018.  That was a really significant and hard to explain dry spell where a lot of teams got burned.........which re-set the expected value of WR's in the draft.    Since 2019 there have been some tremendous WR drafts.   Bills haven't got much to show for it but there have been.

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I get what you’re saying but I don’t think that’s how it works. Teams grade players and the draft plays out based on that.

 

It was considered weak draft leading up to the draft.

 

With that said who is the DK Metcalf of this draft? Unreal physical talent but lacking production or good film?

Edited April 24, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Solomon Grundy]

  On 4/24/2023 at 7:33 PM, Rigotz said:

Why am I seeing this loser mentality in every thread?

 

It's ok if you want to trade for DeAndre Hopkins or if you feel Beane has a bad track record in the 2nd round ... but multiple threads have these snarky little comments like "oh boy, can't wait to get another AJ Epenesa this year!!" 

 

Every GM misses draft picks... but look at WR's drafted in the 2nd round in the past 4 years alone:

- Deebo Samuel

- AJ Brown

- DK Metcalf

- Diontae Johnson

- Tee Higgins

- Michael Pittman

- Chase Claypool

- Elijah Moore

- Christian Watson

 

Again, totally fine if you like the certainty of trading for Hopkins, but acting like 2nd round picks are "overrated" is insane. Imagine having any of those guys above for cheap across from Diggs for the next 4 years. Now, imagine using the $20M/yr Hopkins is due on a DE/DT/OG/etc. from Free Agency... in ADDITION to still having Deebo, Brown, Higgins, etc. THAT is why 2nd round picks are valuable. Drop the "we never get it right :(" attitude and try a little optimism. 👍

 

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So far Claypool, Moore and Pittman aren't any better than Gabe Davis

[whorlnut]

  On 4/24/2023 at 9:14 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I get what you’re saying but I don’t think that’s how it works. Teams grade players and the draft plays out based on that.

 

It was considered weak draft leading up to the draft.

 

With that said who is the DK Metcalf of this draft? Unreal physical talent but lacking production or good film?

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Do you like arguing just to argue?

[NewEra]

  On 4/24/2023 at 9:16 PM, Solomon Grundy said:

So far Claypool, Moore and Pittman aren't any better than Gabe Davis

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Pittman is

[John from Riverside]

  On 4/24/2023 at 9:18 PM, NewEra said:

Pittman is

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Do the numbers actually reflect that?

[Buffalo_Stampede]

  On 4/24/2023 at 9:18 PM, whorlnut said:

Do you like arguing just to argue?

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No. Teams didn’t pass on WRs because of previous draft failures. Doesn’t even make sense.

 

It was a weak draft class prospect wise. If Jamaar Chase was in the 2019 draft he’d go top 10.

[NewEra]

  On 4/24/2023 at 9:20 PM, John from Riverside said:

Do the numbers actually reflect that?

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One has Josh allen, the other has a retired qb.  I don’t care about numbers.  I have eyes.  As do NFL GMs.  And we’ll see how they feel when the contracts are given out.

 

barring major injury- my $100 to your 75 that Pittman gets a more lucrative contract. 

[John from Riverside]

  On 4/24/2023 at 9:24 PM, NewEra said:

One has Josh allen, the other has a retired qb.  I don’t care about numbers.  I have eyes.  As do NFL GMs.  And we’ll see how they feel when the contracts are given out.

 

barring major injury- my $100 to your 75 that Pittman gets a more lucrative contract. 

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So the numbers don’t actually reflect that

 

thanks