Prayer service planned for Kim Pegula

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

1 hour ago, SoMAn said:

If you have an answer as to how participation in group prayer is more useful or meaningful than praying independently, I’d appreciate your wisdom. I’m not trying to be a wise guy. I’d seriously like to understand the rationale. 

I'm curious of his rationale as well. If he's going to quote Matthew 18:20, he's the one who doesn't understand.

Edited April 23, 2023 by Giuseppe Tognarelli

[AlCowlingsTaxiService]

And here I thought I was going to read a thread on Kim pegula 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

5 minutes ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

And here I thought I was going to read a thread on Kim pegula 

it went south when those who felt the need to bring their religion/beliefs in to the convo. another one of those deals that divide people. spiritual, cool. religion/denomination, nah.

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

21 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

it went south when those who felt the need to bring their religion/beliefs in to the convo. another one of those deals that divide people. spiritual, cool. religion/denomination, nah.

 

'Bride the First' had a strong Christian faith that helped in her living with the effects of TBI in 1974, and living with cancer for the last 15 years of her life. As a remembrance of her, I have always left a fundamentalist Christian radio station she listened to on the car's radio, even though I am long past the last car we shared.  Sometimes I will pause on the station when flipping through the selection, and it's often interesting to catch one of those 'ask the pastor' type programs.  One time I listened to callers becoming riled up over whether it's proper to raise their hands to receive the Holy Spirit, or improper.  It made me think of Emo Phillips joke about religious denominations...Google it.  Whatever humans can interject themselves into always complicates the matter.

[BillsFan4]

On 4/19/2023 at 9:42 AM, SoMAn said:

I don’t understand the need for communal prayer as opposed to anyone who wants to independently pray in solitude.
Does a group prayer somehow boost the signal to the creator to ensure it doesn’t end up in the ‘missed messages’ bin?  

 

I got the impression from Jessica Pegula’s public message that Kim is still recovering, but we probably shouldn’t expect her to ever be 100% back to where she was prior to her cardiac and stroke episodes. I think it’s likely she’ll always have speech and mobility issues. She’s lucky to have survived. God bless her. 

I am probably not the best person to answer but I think a lot of it just has to do with people believing in the power of prayer. That alone can make group prayer helpful IMO. It can be comforting and uplifting (mentally) to that person and their family knowing others are praying for you, especially if you believe in the power of prayer.

 

I know I’ve asked people for prayers before a family member was going in for major surgery or if they were going through a traumatic health event.

 

Before my mom had open heart surgery I remember she asked her neighbor (who is very religious and attends church every Sunday) to pray for her and her neighbor had the whole church do a prayer service for her. My mom didn’t attend but just knowing they did it brought her a lot of comfort before she went in for surgery. She was scared to death and I think it gave her that little extra boost she needed to get through the whole pre-surgery process (all the tests and just the waiting. It’s scary!).

 

I could be wrong but I think it’s more of a “human nature” thing, the same way some people are comforted by going to support groups. 

[LeGOATski]

This approaches idol worship, IMO. They should just be adding her in to the normal group prayer.

 

WWJD?

[WotAGuy]

7 hours ago, SoMAn said:

If you have an answer as to how participation in group prayer is more useful or meaningful than praying independently, I’d appreciate your wisdom. I’m not trying to be a wise guy. I’d seriously like to understand the rationale. 

For me, it’s not unlike watching a Bills game with 60,000 other people. It’s a shared experience that is different than watching the game alone. Both are fun and enjoyable. I’ve found the same thing with meditation.  Meditating alone is wonderful.  Meditating with a group of people has a palpable power that is wonderful. 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

6 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

'Bride the First' had a strong Christian faith that helped in her living with the effects of TBI in 1974, and living with cancer for the last 15 years of her life. As a remembrance of her, I have always left a fundamentalist Christian radio station she listened to on the car's radio, even though I am long past the last car we shared.  Sometimes I will pause on the station when flipping through the selection, and it's often interesting to catch one of those 'ask the pastor' type programs.  One time I listened to callers becoming riled up over whether it's proper to raise their hands to receive the Holy Spirit, or improper.  It made me think of Emo Phillips joke about religious denominations...Google it.  Whatever humans can interject themselves into always complicates the matter.

 

[Momma Pecoraro]

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

15 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

 

The message is in his words, not your posting of his picture.

*
Emo's take on organized religion:

He said, "Nobody loves me."
I said, "God loves you, you silly ninny."
He said, "How do you know there's a God?"
I said, "Of course there's a God. Do you think that billions of years ago a bunch of molecules floating around at random could someday have had the sense of humor to make you look like that?"
He said, "I do believe in God."
I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?"
He said, "A Christian."
I said, "Me too. Protestant or Catholic?"
He said, "Protestant."
I said, "Me too! What franchise?"
He says, "Baptist."
I said, "Me too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?"
He says, "Northern Baptist."
I said, "Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
He says, "Northern Conservative Baptist."
I say, "Me too! Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist or Northern Conservative Reform Baptist?"
He says, "Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist."
I say, "Me too! Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region or Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Eastern Region?"
He says, "Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region."
I say, "Me too! Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879 or Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?"
He says, "Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912."
I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over!

 

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

6 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

The message is in his words, not your posting of his picture.

that post of his mug was showing I watched the vid you recommend to google and watch. I never really found him to be very funny. his words/message is not relative to my beliefs. I wont disrespect anyone for their beliefs. I am more spiritual like that of the native americans. man made religion doesn't work for me.

[4merper4mer]

23 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:

it went south when those who felt the need to bring their religion/beliefs in to the convo. another one of those deals that divide people. spiritual, cool. religion/denomination, nah.

 

In the first two pages I saw six shots taken at the church holding the event.  You seem to be implying that somewhere in the thread that people were either advocating for that specific church or another one.  I didn’t see that by the middle of page three so gave up looking.  Where did it start?  Why did you not consider people taking preemptive shots at a  church as “going south” but people defending or advocating for a church is “going south”?

[WhoTom]

48 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said:

The message is in his words, not your posting of his picture.

*
Emo's take on organized religion:

He said, "Nobody loves me."
I said, "God loves you, you silly ninny."
He said, "How do you know there's a God?"
I said, "Of course there's a God. Do you think that billions of years ago a bunch of molecules floating around at random could someday have had the sense of humor to make you look like that?"
He said, "I do believe in God."
I said, "Are you a Christian or a Jew?"
He said, "A Christian."
I said, "Me too. Protestant or Catholic?"
He said, "Protestant."
I said, "Me too! What franchise?"
He says, "Baptist."
I said, "Me too! Northern Baptist or Southern Baptist?"
He says, "Northern Baptist."
I said, "Me too! Northern Conservative Baptist or Northern Liberal Baptist?"
He says, "Northern Conservative Baptist."
I say, "Me too! Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist or Northern Conservative Reform Baptist?"
He says, "Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist."
I say, "Me too! Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region or Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Eastern Region?"
He says, "Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region."
I say, "Me too! Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1879 or Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912?"
He says, "Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912."
I said, "Die, heretic!" And I pushed him over!

 

 

 

"Christ was preaching peace and love and humanity. Then for 2,000 years we've had people torturing and killing each other because they don't agree about exactly how he said it." - Terry Jones (from Monty Python)

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Just now, WhoTom said:

 

 

"Christ was preaching peace and love and humanity. Then for 2,000 years we've had people torturing and killing each other because they don't agree about exactly how he said it." - Terry Jones (from Monty Python)

Insightful and inciteful.  

[RiotAct]

The Bills’ social media accounts just put in a plug for this, so I’d say that’s pretty darn “officially sanctioned”.

[muppy]

the service occurred yesterday

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

42 minutes ago, muppy said:

the service occurred yesterday

 

 

This has been an interesting thread to follow, with a variety of people weighing in with different opinions. 
 

When all was said and done, seems like the Pegula family was appreciative of the prayers for Kim, and her father attended the prayer vigil and shared his thoughts in the clip you posted.  I would think most can agree it was a net positive for the Pegula family. 
 

I think some lessons can be drawn from this.  When you get right down to it, people should mind their business about the way other people choose to express love, support, positive thoughts and yes, prayer for other members of the community.   I think that goes to both sides of the discussion, be it preaching to others about beliefs, or preaching to others about how silly their beliefs might be. 

 

 

 

[muppy]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

This has been an interesting thread to follow, with a variety of people weighing in with different opinions. 
 

When all was said and done, seems like the Pegula family was appreciative of the prayers for Kim, and her father attended the prayer vigil and shared his thoughts in the clip you posted.  I would think most can agree it was a net positive for the Pegula family. 
 

I think some lessons can be drawn from this.  When you get right down to it, people should mind their business about the way other people choose to express love, support, positive thoughts and yes, prayer for other members of the community.   I think that goes to both sides of the discussion, be it preaching to others about beliefs, or preaching to others about how silly their beliefs might be. 

 

 

 

leo mi amigo fantastico  always great to read YOU hermano. 

 

the thing for me is if I read of a specific prayer request, or a situation where folks are asking for prayers and positive thoughts MY modus operandi is to NOT Wait. Do It in that moment in time. Or you will likely forget as life passes us  by

 

Love in action. I think of it that way. 🙂

 

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[CorkScrewHill]

From the Buffalo News quoting Terry

 

““Kim and our family have entered a new season in our lives,” Terry Pegula said in the video shown to a crowd of 300-plus at Eastern Hills Wesleyan Church. Another 300-350 people joined a livestream of the event, which was co-organized by Kim’s alma mater, Houghton University. “The beginning of this season has been difficult,” Terry Pegula continued. “But we ask, with God’s help, that Kim’s recovery continues. We also ask, with God’s help, that Kim has a full recovery. We ask humbly, but we pray boldly.”’

[Bob Jones]

On 4/30/2023 at 9:40 AM, muppy said:

the service occurred yesterday

 

 

I had no idea that Kim/Terry's last name was pronounced "Pih-goo-la." Learn something new every day!