The Unreleased J6 Capitol Surveillance Tapes: As Expected Tapes CONFIRM Sham J6 Committee LIED.

[aristocrat]

33 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Again - if the CULT didn't want to cultivate a specific narrative - they would have given these tapes to ALL media sources.

 

Idiots

 

 

why didn't the dems give the videos out?  if transparency is the goal and joe wants to be the most transparent pres of all time why didn't they release them? 

[B-Man]

 

[Doc]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Wow! You missed the ENTIRE point of his report. The central theme was NOT that what happened was excusable, appropriate or should encouraged. His point was that your government is LYING to you. And….they did! To prove his point he shared specific examples of just that. He was NOT making an overarching finding about the protest. Wake up! 

 

That's how Dems roll.  Unless you say it was an insurrection, you support everything that happened.  Clowns.

 

28 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

why didn't the dems give the videos out?  if transparency is the goal and joe wants to be the most transparent pres of all time why didn't they release them? 

 

It's a question for the ages!

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

I’m starting to think @Irv is right about BillSy and multiple accounts.  I’m seeing a trend. 
 

What say you B-man? 

[BillStime]

18 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

BillSy and multiple accounts.

 

Oh, someone's feelings are hurt I see... lol

 

Can you list my alternative accounts just so that I aware?

 

This should be fun and easy for you to do, right?

 

[BillStime]

2 hours ago, aristocrat said:

why didn't the dems give the videos out?  if transparency is the goal and joe wants to be the most transparent pres of all time why didn't they release them? 

 

Please tell us what the January 6 committee didn't show you?

 

1)That there were other people other than Josh Hawley running that day?  Can you share where the Committee said ONLY Josh Hawley was running that day after he riled up the cult?

 

 

2) QAnon Shaman had his day in court. The DOJ already said that his counsel had access to the same videos that Tucker shared.

 

Tucker: "To this day, there is dispute over how QS got into the Capitol building."

 

Wrong - Here is QS entering the Capitol ~ 40 seconds after the breach. There is no dispute.

 

 

 

3) WTF are you talking about Biden and transparency. Biden runs the Executive branch; not Legislative

 

Idiots

 

 

Edited March 10, 2023 by BillStime

[B-Man]

38 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I’m starting to think @Irv is right about BillSy and multiple accounts.  I’m seeing a trend. 
 

What say you B-man? 

 

 

I don't know.

 

It is kind of striking that when new left-leaning posters join, they are usually somewhat reasonable and give real evidence to try and support their views.

 

However soon enough they fall into the same category as Billsy and Tibs.

 

Refusing to even read your arguments, dismissing qualified people just out of hand, because its not from their "approved" list of sources,

 

deliberately (?) twisting what you have posted into something else entirely, strawman after strawman to derail threads, and mostly the endless repetition of the same points that have already been disproven.

 

Whether or not it is multiple accounts, they certainly are indistinguishable.

 

 

 

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[Doc]

4 minutes ago, B-Man said:

I don't know.

 

It is kind of striking that when new left-leaning posters join, they are usually somewhat reasonable and give real evidence to try and support their views.

 

However soon enough they fall into the same category as Billsy and Tibs.

 

Refusing to even read your arguments, dismissing qualified people just out of hand, because its not from their "approved" list of sources,

 

deliberately (?) twisting what you have posted into something else entirely, strawman after strawman to derail threads, and mostly the endless repetition of the same points that have already been disproven.

 

Whether or not it is multiple accounts, they certainly are indistinguishable.

 

It's because they can't justify their positions.

[BillStime]

26 minutes ago, B-Man said:

dismissing qualified people just out of hand

 

👆🤡

 

1) Hilarious, coming from our leading plagiarist.

 

2) Your "qualified" people lost all credibility when you all defended this:

 

 

3) "However soon enough they fall into the same category as Billsy and Tibs."

 

Have you ever thought it might be you and the cult being overly committed to your well-coordinated propaganda campaign?

 

4) The cult has NO problem with these "quality" contributors to forum:

 

@Wacka

@Unforgiven

@AlBUNDY4TDS

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 10, 2023 by BillStime

[AlBUNDY4TDS]

14 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

👆🤡

 

1) Hilarious, coming from our leading plagiarist.

 

2) Your "qualified" people lost all credibility when you all defended this:

 

 

3) "However soon enough they fall into the same category as Billsy and Tibs."

 

Have you ever thought it might be you and the cult being overly committed to your well-coordinated propaganda campaign?

 

4) The cult has NO problem with these "quality" contributors to forum:

 

@Wacka

@Unforgiven

@AlBUNDY4TDS

 

 

 

 

 

Oh man, billsy is calling me out by name. I finally made it! #winning 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

55 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

I don't know.

 

It is kind of striking that when new left-leaning posters join, they are usually somewhat reasonable and give real evidence to try and support their views.

 

However soon enough they fall into the same category as Billsy and Tibs.

 

Refusing to even read your arguments, dismissing qualified people just out of hand, because its not from their "approved" list of sources,

 

deliberately (?) twisting what you have posted into something else entirely, strawman after strawman to derail threads, and mostly the endless repetition of the same points that have already been disproven.

 

Whether or not it is multiple accounts, they certainly are indistinguishable.

 

 

 

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Next time, a simple yes or no would do.  All this yammering on, I’ll bet your patients used to pretend to be asleep when you checked in on them.  
 

But ty nonetheless.  

[Irv]

43 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

👆🤡

 

1) Hilarious, coming from our leading plagiarist.

 

2) Your "qualified" people lost all credibility when you all defended this:

 

 

3) "However soon enough they fall into the same category as Billsy and Tibs."

 

Have you ever thought it might be you and the cult being overly committed to your well-coordinated propaganda campaign?

 

4) The cult has NO problem with these "quality" contributors to forum:

 

@Wacka

@Unforgiven

@AlBUNDY4TDS

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dude - you need to get a life.  Trump hasn't been president for two years.  What?  No beef with Calvin Coolidge?  What a mess.  

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

 

Oh, someone's feelings are hurt I see... lol

 

Can you list my alternative accounts just so that I aware?

 

This should be fun and easy for you to do, right?

 

The fun here was in setting the bait and dropping the line in the water. 
 

Word to the wise: when someone tells you someone else wrote “gullible” on the ceiling, don’t look up!  My son got me on that one when he was in elementary school. 

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, Irv said:

 

Dude - you need to get a life.  Trump hasn't been president for two years.  What?  No beef with Calvin Coolidge?  What a mess.  

 

Mmmmhmmm

 

Tracking the 2024 Republican Primary: Trump Posts Strongest Lead Yet Over DeSantis

Updated: March 7, 2023

 

 

 

[Irv]

Dude.  You're running scared.  I already told you.  Nikki Haley gets the nomination.  Quit soiling yourself about orange man.  What a mess.  

 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

The fun here was in setting the bait and dropping the line in the water. 
 

Word to the wise: when someone tells you someone else wrote “gullible” on the ceiling, don’t look up!  My son got me on that one when he was in elementary school. 

 

Here we go again - this clown turning himself inside out because like @Irv - he can't back up his billshit.

 

Really should be easy to share identify my alleged sock puppets.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

Here’s what we know:

• Some people acted very badly. A handful came ready for a fight while others admit they were caught up in a mob mentality that unfolded over the course of the afternoon.
• The overwhelming majority of protesters did not act badly or violently. Not only do security footage and other video sources demonstrate that is indeed true, the Justice Department’s own data supports it. “Parading” in the Capitol, a class B misdemeanor, is by far the most common charge in the Justice Department’s sweeping investigation. According to an update published this week, 919 out of 1,000 defendants face trespassing charges. Of the 518 who accepted plea agreements, 385 pleaded guilty to misdemeanors and 133 pleaded guilty to a felony.
• The most common felony is not “insurrection” but rather obstruction of an official proceeding. Fewer than 20 people face seditious conspiracy charges.
• Roughly 100 defendants are accused of attacking police officers with a dangerous weapon. No one is charged with carrying or using a firearm inside the building.
• Speaking of police, body-worn camera and independent video show outrageous misconduct by law enforcement. D.C. Metropolitan Police launched an aggressive and unnecessary offensive against the crowd assembled on the west lawn. Even though protesters were respecting police lines at the time, footage shows officers throwing stun grenades into and other devices containing rubber bullets into the crowd beginning shortly after 1:00 p.m.
• Video and testimony by Capitol police officers at trial confirmed how that activity enraged the crowd. Other officers shoved women down stairs and shoved one man off the upper terrace balcony.
• This conduct continued inside the building. Some officers shoved and hit individuals inside the Rotunda and other areas. A brutal scene in the lower west terrace tunnel unfolded as police used their batons to beat at least two women on the head resulting in bleeding and injuries.
• Excessive force caused the deaths of four Trump supporters: Ashli Babbitt, Rosanne Boyland, Kevin Greeson, and Benjamin Phillips.
• On the flip side, despite persistent claims even by Attorney General Merrick Garland and White House spokeswoman Karine Jean-Pierre as recently as this week, no police officers died as a result of injuries sustained on January 6. Officer Brian Sicknick is on video walking around after he suffered a pepper spray attack; he died of a stroke the next day. There’s no evidence the reported suicides of other officers after January 6 were related to the protest.
• Further, the responsibility of sufficiently protecting the Capitol with enough officers fell to the Capitol Police board—staffed by the sergeant-at-arms for then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and then Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund repeatedly testified that he requested additional help including National Guardsmen days before January 6. Even as the chaos unfolded that day, House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving and Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger delayed pursuing the proper authorization of the National Guard.
• Irving told House Republicans that his staff as well as members of the House Administration committee began planning for January 6 weeks before the protest. Jamie Fleet, a security staffer for both Pelosi and the committee overseeing Capitol functions, told the January 6 select committee that he started preparations for January 6 in the summer of 2020.
• When the building was breached at around 2:15 p.m., Congress was not voting to certify the electoral college results at the time, a common misperception. Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Arizona) were in the process of disputing the election outcome in Gosar’s home state, a process permitted under the Electoral Count Act. The joint session of Congress technically had been adjourned an hour earlier so debate could begin.
• For all the wasted energy spent over the past two years that democracy almost died on January 6, the chaotic protest only delayed the certification ceremony for seven hours. Joe Biden officially was declared president at 3:00 a.m. the next day.
• The surveillance video viewed by Carlson’s team has not been made available to defense attorneys, arguably in violation of defendants’ constitutional rights.
• A separate trove of tapes that captured activity from the hours between noon and 8:00 p.m. was turned over to the FBI in early 2021 to use in its investigation. With few exceptions, all footage remains under protective orders. Defense attorneys consistently have complained that access to the full archive is constrained by the protective orders.

Plenty of other falsehoods and misrepresentations animate the fable of January 6. But for those honestly seeking the truth, consider this a cheat sheet for future use.

 

https://amgreatness.com/2023/03/09/a-handy-january-6-fact-sheet/

Sure exactly what I saw happen as it occurred live.  And how McCarthy described it.

Politely, this is willful ignorance.  Impolitely, LYING!

Good Lord, what is wrong with you people defending these POS'es.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Here we go again - this clown turning himself inside out because like @Irv - he can't back up his billshit.

 

Really should be easy to share identify my alleged sock puppets.

 

 

I am not going to share identify alleged sock puppets easy or don’t. 

[Irv]

13 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

Here we go again - this clown turning himself inside out because like @Irv - he can't back up his billshit.

 

Really should be easy to share identify my alleged sock puppets.

 

 

When do you switch to the other screen names?  Was für ein Chaos!

[SoCal Deek]

4 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Again - if the CULT didn't want to cultivate a specific narrative - they would have given these tapes to ALL media sources.

 

Idiots

 

It already was on ALL media sources. The committee hearing was on EVERY network in prime time….or were you not allowed to watch TV in the asylum?

[Doc]

14 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It already was on ALL media sources. The committee hearing was on EVERY network in prime time….or were you not allowed to watch TV in the asylum?

 

The Dem clown party's cultivated specific narrative is the only one that counts.

[SoCal Deek]

7 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

The Dem clown party's cultivated specific narrative is the only one that counts.

It’s as if he thinks CNN was going to show anything different from the state sponsored narrative. Come on! Let’s be serious. Nancy had her chance at bat. She failed…again. 

[Doc]

4 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It’s as if he thinks CNN was going to show anything different from the state sponsored narrative. Come on! Let’s be serious. Nancy had her chance at bat. She failed…again. 

 

Yup.  Could easily have released it all to any/all of the alphabet networks.

[BillStime]

Yet these idiots claim the FEDS colluded and manipulated TWITTER; but can't separate the fact that the GQP is COLLUDING with Fox News.

 

And they wonder why no one takes them or Fox News seriously - when all they do is lie, rewrite and whitewash history.

 

Idiots

 

 

[BillStime]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I am not going to share identify alleged sock puppets easy or don’t. 

 

Live shot of Leo

 

[JaCrispy]

3 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

Here we go again - this clown turning himself inside out because like @Irv - he can't back up his billshit.

 

Really should be easy to share identify my alleged sock puppets.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 10, 2023 by JaCrispy

[Joe Ferguson forever]

This is an important piece from the perspective of someone who helped write the Jan 6 report.  It dispels almost all of Carlsons myths:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/10/jan-6-committee-aid-tucker-carlson-00086354

"On Monday night, the Fox News host showed just several minutes of cherry-picked footage. Cameras inside the Capitol and on its grounds recorded many more scenes that he did not play for viewers. Some of this footage has long been available online. For example, you can watch rioters ramming their way through USCP officers at the Senate Wing door, members of the mob smashing the ornate East Rotunda doors before other rioters open them from the inside, and the melee at the west plaza tunnel (at the two-hour, 14-minute mark). You can also view a timeline of events used by federal prosecutors, who relied on the USCP’s camera footage. Carlson’s team had access to this footage, and more, but chose not to show any of it to Fox News viewers Monday night. It’s easy to see why. The full USCP cache tells a very different story from the one Carlson wants people to see."  Lots more in the piece...

Edited March 10, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

This is an important piece from the perspective of someone who helped write the Jan 6 report.  It dispels almost all of Carlsons myths:

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/03/10/jan-6-committee-aid-tucker-carlson-00086354

"On Monday night, the Fox News host showed just several minutes of cherry-picked footage. Cameras inside the Capitol and on its grounds recorded many more scenes that he did not play for viewers. Some of this footage has long been available online. For example, you can watch rioters ramming their way through USCP officers at the Senate Wing door, members of the mob smashing the ornate East Rotunda doors before other rioters open them from the inside, and the melee at the west plaza tunnel (at the two-hour, 14-minute mark). You can also view a timeline of events used by federal prosecutors, who relied on the USCP’s camera footage. Carlson’s team had access to this footage, and more, but chose not to show any of it to Fox News viewers Monday night. It’s easy to see why. The full USCP cache tells a very different story from the one Carlson wants people to see."  Lots more in the piece...

Keep trying Hawk. Maybe at some point you’ll actually figure out what TC was saying. But clearly….not yet. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Keep trying Hawk. Maybe at some point you’ll actually figure out what TC was saying. But clearly….not yet. 

"Meek" and "Orderly"...https://coloradosun.com/2023/03/08/tucker-carlson-trump-opinion-littwin/

That's how Carlson described it.  A few nonviolent scenes amidst a riot do not prove that the gov't was lying.  It was a riot and an insurrection.  As noted in the piece there is plenty of evidence that this was a premeditated attack on the part of the proud boys.  That is being tried in court now.

 

"In fact, one of the most important January 6th trials is currently ongoing in a Washington, D.C., courtroom. Five members of the Proud Boys, including the group’s chair, Enrique Tarrio, have been charged with seditious conspiracy and other serious crimes. The Department of Justice claims the Proud Boys “conspired to prevent, hinder and delay the certification of the Electoral College vote, and to oppose by force the authority of the government of the United States.” Moreover, on Jan. 6, 2021, the Proud Boys “directed, mobilized and led members of the crowd onto the Capitol grounds and into the Capitol, leading to dismantling of metal barricades, destruction of property, breaching of the Capitol building, and assaults on law enforcement.”

 

"Let us compare one of Carlson’s conspiracy theories to the well-established facts. For more than two years, Carlson has chased a bogeyman, arguing that provocateurs working for the federal government (or, alternatively, agitators on the left) somehow tricked Trump’s “patriots” into rioting. He still cannot identify any federal agents working for the so-called “deep state.” Carlson and others have focused on a lone individual who has not been charged, Ray Epps, insinuating that he was a secret FBI plant. This claim is baseless. They’ve produced no evidence connecting Epps, a Trump supporter, to the FBI or any other federal agency."

 

"The DOJ’s allegations are consistent with the Select Committee’s findings, as well as the investigative work done by real reporters. Law enforcement officials have collected overwhelming evidence, including text messages and videos, showing how the Proud Boys conspired against America’s democracy. They discovered that Tarrio told his men to “storm the Capitol” in the days leading up to the joint session of Congress."

 

But you won't read it or skim and ignore cuz it doesn't fit your thesis nor Ole Tuck's...

Edited March 10, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Wacka]

6 hours ago, BillStime said:

 

👆🤡

 

1) Hilarious, coming from our leading plagiarist.

 

2) Your "qualified" people lost all credibility when you all defended this:

 

 

3) "However soon enough they fall into the same category as Billsy and Tibs."

 

Have you ever thought it might be you and the cult being overly committed to your well-coordinated propaganda campaign?

 

4) The cult has NO problem with these "quality" contributors to forum:

 

@Wacka

@Unforgiven

@AlBUNDY4TDS

 

 

 

Billsy knows who I  am !!I come here to laugh at the loony left crap hurling hippos.  I certainly don't come here to learn anything from him/it/them.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, Wacka said:

Billsy knows who I  am !!I come here to laugh at the loony left crap hurling hippos.  I certainly don't come here to learn anything from him/it/them

Yes ,we know. We come here to make you look the fool.  It isn't difficult but sometimes picking on the weaker mind is fun...

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Yes ,we know. We come here to make you look the fool.  It isn't difficult but sometimes picking on the weaker mind is fun...

“We”.  Hmmm.  

[Joe Ferguson forever]

36 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

“We”.  Hmmm.  

replying to this: "Billsy knows who I  am !!I come here to laugh at the loony left crap hurling hippos".  So take your panties out of that wad.  I'm the one and only me on this site.  I think mine was a proportional response.  hippos=weaker mind.  perhaps less imaginative tho.  I've never done cow pattie throwing but I did once buy a block in a donkey paddock betting on where the animal would crap first.  I lost but it was for charity and the farm setting for the party was great.

Edited March 11, 2023 by redtail hawk

[JDHillFan]

10 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

replying to this: "Billsy knows who I  am !!I come here to laugh at the loony left crap hurling hippos".  So take your panties out of that wad.  I'm the one and only me on this site.  I think mine was a proportional response.  hippos=weaker mind.  perhaps less imaginative tho.  I've never done cow pattie throwing but I did once buy a block in a donkey paddock betting on where the animal would crap first.  I lost but it was for charity.

Observing you in action makes me depressed thinking about retirement. You make it seem like it SUCKS (your hunt for NAZIS being the exception. That seems kind of fun). 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

18 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

replying to this: "Billsy knows who I  am !!I come here to laugh at the loony left crap hurling hippos".  So take your panties out of that wad.  I'm the one and only me on this site.  I think mine was a proportional response.  hippos=weaker mind.  perhaps less imaginative tho.  I've never done cow pattie throwing but I did once buy a block in a donkey paddock betting on where the animal would crap first.  I lost but it was for charity and the farm setting for the party was great.

I said “We. Hmm.”.  Do you have me confused with someone else? 
 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

13 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Observing you in action makes me depressed thinking about retirement. You make it seem like it SUCKS (your hunt for NAZIS being the exception. That seems kind of fun). 

trust me retirement is just fine. Friday = Saturday = Monday= Wednesday and no rushing.  Can pick the best and least expensive times for flights and trips without regard to the dates.  Plenty of time to play.  Sleeping in is pretty cool x the dogs wanna go out a 6 am.

8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I said “We. Hmm.”.  Do you have me confused with someone else? 
 

 

 

did I misunderstand?  Was that not a thinly veiled reference to multiple usernames?  It's been a recent subject of debate.  If not, what?

Edited March 11, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Wacka]

I call you  and the other lefties hippos. I posted why a few days ago.  Whed hippos take a dump they helicopter  their tails and dump. Iy\t gets sprayed all over the place. Thats what  you/it/ they do on here.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

21 minutes ago, Wacka said:

I call you  and the other lefties hippos. I posted why a few days ago.  Whed hippos take a dump they helicopter  their tails and dump. Iy\t gets sprayed all over the place. Thats what  you/it/ they do on here.

yes, I guess betting on a square in our paddock would be futile.  But I suppose some would find it funny.  The marx vid was ace btw.  It was truly looney.  Words have meaning. Notwithstanding would have been a better choice for JD, imo.

Edited March 11, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Orlando Tim]

Is there anyone who has seen the larger tapes truly think that the punishment of years of imprisonment is appropriate for the Shaman? He is a moron who thought it was a neat diversion. He is not a good guy but he has been in jail longer than some murderers, and he was non violent that day 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

34 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Is there anyone who has seen the larger tapes truly think that the punishment of years of imprisonment is appropriate for the Shaman? He is a moron who thought it was a neat diversion. He is not a good guy but he has been in jail longer than some murderers, and he was non violent that day 

He was the symbol.  He made himself that.  It's on him.  I think a mental illness defense was his best bet but I'm not at all sure he's nuts.  Just really ignorant.   Not that we should mirror autocracies but what do u think would happen to him in Putin's Russia if he did that? 

Edited March 11, 2023 by redtail hawk