The Unreleased J6 Capitol Surveillance Tapes: As Expected Tapes CONFIRM Sham J6 Committee LIED.

[SoCal Deek]

6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Here's 2 that I admire from my state but I agree, the definition is nebulous

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Webb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kaine

Thanks. I see these over arching labels thrown around a bit too much these days. I much prefer addressing things issue by issue. For example, on most, if not all, fiscal policies I’m extremely conservative (just as I am with my personal finances) whereas on most ‘social’ issues I’m very liberal…with the caveat that this is only in reference to adults; not children. 

Edited March 9, 2023 by SoCal Deek

[JDHillFan]

11 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Here's 2 that I admire from my state but I agree, the definition is nebulous

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Webb

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Kaine

Agreed.  He's one of a kind.  But you know you love him.😉

Do you think “real progressives” that you admire like Webb and Kaine would reflexively defend someone like AOC when she craps all over common folk? I’m just trying to figure out where you fit in re: “real progressives”. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

Do you think “real progressives” that you admire like Webb and Kaine would reflexively defend someone like AOC when she craps all over common folk? I’m just trying to figure out where you fit in re: “real progressives”. 

How bout this:  I'd love to see either of those 2 as president.

12 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

just as I am with my personal finances

my wife complains that I'm cheap...I'm not bothered at all.

[JDHillFan]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

How bout this:  I'd love to see either of those 2 as president.

How about this: I suspect neither of them would reflexively defend that sort of behavior. That sets them well apart from you.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

4 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:

How about this: I suspect neither of them would reflexively defend that sort of behavior. That sets them well apart from you.

Yeah, they're not communicating on an ill tempered sports message board...but next time they're in town I'll ask what they think of her...or maybe an email.  Kaine is really good at answering.

Edited March 9, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Orlando Tim]

2 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

But it is appropriate to exclusively give footage to a proven liar?  This is so important and relevant, I'll post it again here:  https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/exclusive-kremlin-putin-russia-ukraine-war-memo-tucker-carlson-fox/

Can you show me a single liberal news organization that did not call the COVID lab leak a "conspiracy theory"? But posting from Mother Jones is so funny when discussing "liars", you would truly be better to quote the National Enquirer

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Can you show me a single liberal news organization that did not call the COVID lab leak a "conspiracy theory"? But posting from Mother Jones is so funny when discussing "liars", you would truly be better to quote the National Enquirer

 

Of they all did.  Because Trump said it was from the lab.  That was the liberals' methodology: if Trump said it, do/argue for the opposite.

[JDHillFan]

17 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Yeah, they're not communicating on an ill tempered sports message board...but next time they're in town I'll ask what they think of her...or maybe an email.  Kaine is really good at answering.

No need. They seem honorable. That sets them well apart from you.

[Wacka]

The libs today

 

[Doc]

Clown show.

[B-Man]

 

 

 

Argue with Carlson's framing all you want; I have disagreements with it.

 

But it is clear that Jan. 6, as ugly as it was, was a riot and not a "danger to our democracy"; that many of those in the Capitol were in fact gawking rather than rioting; and that the Jan. 6 committee went out of its way to present certain footage but avoid other footage.

 

A decision was made by the Jan. 6 committee and the media to avoid the possibility of any nuance whatsoever regarding the riots. Instead, the only acceptable narrative determined that a riot was an insurrection, that insurrection threatened the overthrow of the United States, and that the insurrection continues to percolate throughout conservative circles. Any mitigating evidence to that overblown narrative was discarded.

 

Supposedly, the best way to ensure that narrative was to ensure silence. But Schumer's call to silence Carlson is precisely the reason Carlson's report went viral in the first place. The media-Democratic complex keeps exaggerating narratives, eliding any countervailing information, and then seeking to censor those who present such information; they keep burying evidentiary landmines hoping they won't be triggered. Then the landmines blow up, and they're shocked at the explosion.

 

We couldn't be given the footage, according to our media and political elites, lest we draw the wrong conclusions. Herein lies the problem: the best way to avoid the American people drawing the wrong conclusions is to present them with the full evidence, and then let them draw their own conclusions. And that's precisely what the elites in our media and the Democratic Party won't allow.

 

 

https://jewishworldreview.com/0323/shapiro030923.php

 

 

 

 

 

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[BillsFanNC]

If you still choose to characterize J6 as an insurrection and/or a threat to our democracy the likes we haven't seen since the Civil War or similar hyperbole, then you're a moron.

 

Period. 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

10 hours ago, redtail hawk said:

I didn't see any Dems desecrating the Capitol after the 2016 election.  Nor any call for it from a D leader.

I saw a fair amount previously attempting to burn down Washington and many cities across the country, and don't recall any 'calls' by any leader to "desecrate" the Capitol.  

 

Maybe you only care when it's convenient?

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

I saw a fair amount previously attempting to burn down Washington and many cities across the country, and don't recall any 'calls' by any leader to "desecrate" the Capitol.  

 

Maybe you only care when it's convenient?

I'm feeling mellow.  yup, absolutely.  Go Bills!  Really, I f'en hate that I love this team.  It's a curse...

Edited March 10, 2023 by redtail hawk

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I'm feeling mellow.  yup, absolutely.  Go Bills!  Really, I f'en hate that I love this team.  It's a curse...

It's a gift, it just feels like a curse.  I imagine my sons one day will enjoy the SB win, raise a glass and say "Dad, only missed it by 14 years...Robot, pull up a picture of Dad from 2029...". 

[B-Man]

 

 

What We Weren't Shown About Jan. 6

BY BEN SHAPIRO 

 

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/columns/benshapiro/2023/03/09/what-we-werent-shown-about-jan-6-n1676846

[BillStime]

What Bonnie wants you to forget
 

 

[BillStime]

🎯

 

 

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

40 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

What We Weren't Shown About Jan. 6

BY BEN SHAPIRO 

 

 

 

https://pjmedia.com/columns/benshapiro/2023/03/09/what-we-werent-shown-about-jan-6-n1676846

This is a fair analysis of where we are right now.  This is spot on:

 

We couldn’t be given the footage, according to our media and political elites, lest we draw the wrong conclusions. Herein lies the problem: the best way to avoid the American people drawing the wrong conclusions is to present them with the full evidence, and then let them draw their own conclusions. And that’s precisely what the elites in our media and the Democratic Party won’t allow.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

13 hours ago, Wacka said:

The libs today

 

This is hilarious.  never watched much of his stuff but watch this:

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/07/politics/kfile-kevin-mccarthy-january-6-comments-contradict-carlson-footage/?dicbo=v2-g5guoud&iid=ob_lockedrail_longstory_pool

[Tommy Callahan]

Damn the left is concerned about selective portions being released to push a false narrative.

 

And epic ironic as that exactly what they were doing with the entire j6 theatre 

[BillsFanNC]

2 hours ago, Chris farley said:

Damn the left is concerned about selective portions being released to push a false narrative.

 

And epic ironic as that exactly what they were doing with the entire j6 theatre 

 

Wait so you're saying that the left almost exclusively engages in lies and projection?

 

I mean no friggin way. My world is rocked.

[BillStime]

21 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Wait so you're saying that the left almost exclusively engages in lies and projection?

 

I mean no friggin way. My world is rocked.

Keep spinning man - you’re almost there 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

So like in every police state the Biden DOJ investigates people in search of crimes and holds them in jail indefinitely. 

 

I'm shocked.

 

 

[Doc]

10 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

This is a fair analysis of where we are right now.  This is spot on:

 

We couldn’t be given the footage, according to our media and political elites, lest we draw the wrong conclusions. Herein lies the problem: the best way to avoid the American people drawing the wrong conclusions is to present them with the full evidence, and then let them draw their own conclusions. And that’s precisely what the elites in our media and the Democratic Party won’t allow.

 

You'd think that wouldn't need to be said.  But that's the Dem party for you.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

On 3/9/2023 at 8:37 AM, redtail hawk said:

But it is appropriate to exclusively give footage to a proven liar?  This is so important and relevant, I'll post it again here:  https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/03/exclusive-kremlin-putin-russia-ukraine-war-memo-tucker-carlson-fox/

It happens every day in Washington, proven liars having exclusive access to data. 
 

Next question please. 

[BillStime]

23 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

So like in every police state the Biden DOJ investigates people in search of crimes and holds them in jail indefinitely. 

When will you idiots stop? 
 

What exactly was Durham doing?

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

Here’s what I don’t understand. I can see not liking the way TC presented the videos, but were they selectively edited?
 

For example, are there other parts of the tapes in which the Shamon dude was acting violently while inside the Capitol? Did he attack police officers? Did he vandalize the building? And…are there other parts of the video that show Officer Sicknick stumbling around or in other sorts of physical duress? 
 

If we had a functioning Justice system (instead of a politically motivated police state) none of this would be an issue. 

[BillStime]

16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Here’s what I don’t understand. I can see not liking the way TC presented the videos, but were they selectively edited?
 

For example, are there other parts of the tapes in which the Shamon dude was acting violently while inside the Capitol? Did he attack police officers? Did he vandalize the building? And…are there other parts of the video that show Officer Sicknick stumbling around or in other sorts of physical duress? 
 

If we had a functioning Justice system (instead of a politically motivated police state) none of this would be an issue. 

 

If the cult wasn’t looking for a specific spin - they would have released it to all media agencies.

 

But no - they picked the media source that despises you and prioritizes millionaires for billionaires.

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

 

If the cult wasn’t looking for a specific spin - they would have released it to all media agencies.

 

But no - they picked the media source that despises you and prioritizes millionaires for billionaires.

 

 

That’s a cute response. So is there such contradicting video footage? If there is, wouldn’t Nancy’s Select Committee have shown it? I assume the prosecution put on their best case…no? 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

33 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Here’s what I don’t understand. I can see not liking the way TC presented the videos, but were they selectively edited?
 

For example, are there other parts of the tapes in which the Shamon dude was acting violently while inside the Capitol? Did he attack police officers? Did he vandalize the building? And…are there other parts of the video that show Officer Sicknick stumbling around or in other sorts of physical duress? 
 

If we had a functioning Justice system (instead of a politically motivated police state) none of this would be an issue. 

Don't have a problem with the video presented.  I have a problem with the context.  He purposefully and pointedly ignored the terrible violence or at the very least riduloudsly minimized it.  He minimized the suffering or outright denied the multiple suicides of several officers and the death of Sicknick.  And he concluded based on some "peaceful" appearing video that the whole thing was just an overblown tour of the Capitol.  He absolved all the scummy, treasonous insurrectionist  All outright lies and insulting to the brave officers that protected out Capitol and our democracy.  Oh, and btw Chamsley is a POS who plead guilty to his crimes.

Edited March 10, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SoCal Deek]

3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

Don't have a problem with the video presented.  I have a problem with the context.  He purposefully and pointedly ignored the terrible violence or at the very least riduloudsly minimized it.  He minimized the suffering or outright denied the multiple suicides of several officers and the death of Sicknick.  And he concluded based on some "peaceful" appearing video that the whole thing was just an overblown tour of the Capitol.  He absolved all the scummy, treasonous insurrectionist  All outright lies and insulting to the brave officers that protected out Capitol and our democracy.  Oh, and btw Chamsley is a POS who plead guilty to his crimes and has quite a history of illegal and immoral behavior.  But that's ok w u all cuz he's on your side, right?

Wow! You missed the ENTIRE point of his report. The central theme was NOT that what happened was excusable, appropriate or should encouraged. His point was that your government is LYING to you. And….they did! To prove his point he shared specific examples of just that. He was NOT making an overarching finding about the protest. Wake up! 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Wow! You missed the ENTIRE point of his report. The central theme was NOT that what happened was excusable, appropriate or should encouraged. His point was that your government is LYING to you. And….they did! To prove his point he shared specific examples of just that. He was NOT making an overarching finding about the protest. Wake up! 

uh no.  When I have time I'll find you some of his statements that conveyed what I said above.  Did we watch the same fiction show?

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

uh no.  When I have time I'll find you some of his statements that conveyed what I said above.  Did we watch the same fiction show?

How many times did he say THEY’RE LYING TO YOU? If you don’t get the point of the movie, maybe you should ask the person sitting next to you in the theater? But…wait until you’re outside…nobody likes people talking during the movie. 😉

[BillStime]

12 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

media and political elites

 

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

9 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Wow! You missed the ENTIRE point of his report. The central theme was NOT that what happened was excusable, appropriate or should encouraged. His point was that your government is LYING to you. And….they did! To prove his point he shared specific examples of just that. He was NOT making an overarching finding about the protest. Wake up! 

 

Do you really think that he actually watched it or that he's simply regurgitating what his masters are telling him to?

[BillStime]

18 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

That’s a cute response. So is there such contradicting video footage? If there is, wouldn’t Nancy’s Select Committee have shown it? I assume the prosecution put on their best case…no? 

 

Again - if the CULT didn't want to cultivate a specific narrative - they would have given these tapes to ALL media sources.

 

Idiots

 

[B-Man]

 

 

Here’s what we know:

• Some people acted very badly. A handful came ready for a fight while others admit they were caught up in a mob mentality that unfolded over the course of the afternoon.
• The overwhelming majority of protesters did not act badly or violently. Not only do security footage and other video sources demonstrate that is indeed true, the Justice Department’s own data supports it. “Parading” in the Capitol, a class B misdemeanor, is by far the most common charge in the Justice Department’s sweeping investigation. According to an update published this week, 919 out of 1,000 defendants face trespassing charges. Of the 518 who accepted plea agreements, 385 pleaded guilty to misdemeanors and 133 pleaded guilty to a felony.
• The most common felony is not “insurrection” but rather obstruction of an official proceeding. Fewer than 20 people face seditious conspiracy charges.
• Roughly 100 defendants are accused of attacking police officers with a dangerous weapon. No one is charged with carrying or using a firearm inside the building.
• Speaking of police, body-worn camera and independent video show outrageous misconduct by law enforcement. D.C. Metropolitan Police launched an aggressive and unnecessary offensive against the crowd assembled on the west lawn. Even though protesters were respecting police lines at the time, footage shows officers throwing stun grenades into and other devices containing rubber bullets into the crowd beginning shortly after 1:00 p.m.
• Video and testimony by Capitol police officers at trial confirmed how that activity enraged the crowd. Other officers shoved women down stairs and shoved one man off the upper terrace balcony.
• This conduct continued inside the building. Some officers shoved and hit individuals inside the Rotunda and other areas. A brutal scene in the lower west terrace tunnel unfolded as police used their batons to beat at least two women on the head resulting in bleeding and injuries.
• Excessive force caused the deaths of four Trump supporters: Ashli Babbitt, Rosanne Boyland, Kevin Greeson, and Benjamin Phillips.
• On the flip side, despite persistent claims even by Attorney General Merrick Garland and White House spokeswoman Karine Jean-Pierre as recently as this week, no police officers died as a result of injuries sustained on January 6. Officer Brian Sicknick is on video walking around after he suffered a pepper spray attack; he died of a stroke the next day. There’s no evidence the reported suicides of other officers after January 6 were related to the protest.
• Further, the responsibility of sufficiently protecting the Capitol with enough officers fell to the Capitol Police board—staffed by the sergeant-at-arms for then House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and then Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund repeatedly testified that he requested additional help including National Guardsmen days before January 6. Even as the chaos unfolded that day, House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving and Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger delayed pursuing the proper authorization of the National Guard.
• Irving told House Republicans that his staff as well as members of the House Administration committee began planning for January 6 weeks before the protest. Jamie Fleet, a security staffer for both Pelosi and the committee overseeing Capitol functions, told the January 6 select committee that he started preparations for January 6 in the summer of 2020.
• When the building was breached at around 2:15 p.m., Congress was not voting to certify the electoral college results at the time, a common misperception. Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Arizona) were in the process of disputing the election outcome in Gosar’s home state, a process permitted under the Electoral Count Act. The joint session of Congress technically had been adjourned an hour earlier so debate could begin.
• For all the wasted energy spent over the past two years that democracy almost died on January 6, the chaotic protest only delayed the certification ceremony for seven hours. Joe Biden officially was declared president at 3:00 a.m. the next day.
• The surveillance video viewed by Carlson’s team has not been made available to defense attorneys, arguably in violation of defendants’ constitutional rights.
• A separate trove of tapes that captured activity from the hours between noon and 8:00 p.m. was turned over to the FBI in early 2021 to use in its investigation. With few exceptions, all footage remains under protective orders. Defense attorneys consistently have complained that access to the full archive is constrained by the protective orders.

Plenty of other falsehoods and misrepresentations animate the fable of January 6. But for those honestly seeking the truth, consider this a cheat sheet for future use.

 

https://amgreatness.com/2023/03/09/a-handy-january-6-fact-sheet/

[BillStime]

7 minutes ago, B-Man said:

Here’s what we "know"

https://amgreatness.com/2023/03/09/a-handy-january-6-fact-sheet/