Punch Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, ngbills said: How was Andrews being pushed down on the fumble return not a block in the back? Joe Burrow is too calm, cool and collected for the refs to throw that flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 33 minutes ago, ngbills said: How was Andrews being pushed down on the fumble return not a block in the back? It absolutely was. A lesser block cost the Bills a TD in playoff game vs Houston a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 LOL: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just watched the replay of fumble return. Wasn't that a block in the back @ the 30 yard line. Bengals player pushed him right down from behind! ?? 1 hour ago, ngbills said: How was Andrews being pushed down on the fumble return not a block in the back? Heinous! /smdh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protocal69 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 5 hours ago, TheBrownBear said: Harbaugh and Staley should be booking their flights to Thailand right now. That should be the new quote for any coach that gets fired for now on lol....Kingsbury setting a trend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livinginthepast Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 The Ravens.... OMG what a tease. On the 2 yard line, a chance to take the lead and then that stupid fumble happens. I wouldnt have tried that play with an inexperienced QB. Then Cinci get the benefit of their punter faking contact to get a penalty in one of the worst acting jobs on contact, Ive ever seen. Of course the gullible refs buy it and give them that call in a playoff game? That killed another few mins of the game for Cinci. (He actually tried to do it again on the next punt!). The final play on the Hail Mary and with their best receivers on, season on the line and the ball deflects right to the Baltimore player (at slow speed no less) and all he does is do a clumsy paw at the ball?? ARRRRGHHHHH!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motorin' Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Check out the 2nd biggest play of the game. Here we have 3rd & 9 from midfield. This completion would move the chains, and the Bengals would go on to score their last offensive points of the game and make it 17-10. Except it wasn't a catch. Chase gets two feet down before the cb dislodges control. By the time he regains control his second foot lands out of bounds. Would they have gone for it 4th & 9 from midfield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellysHandWarmer Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Check out the 2nd biggest play of the game. Here we have 3rd & 9 from midfield. This completion would move the chains, and the Bengals would go on to score their last offensive points of the game and make it 17-10. Except it wasn't a catch. Chase gets two feet down before the cb dislodges control. By the time he regains control his second foot lands out of bounds. Would they have gone for it 4th & 9 from midfield? To me it looked like he clearly gained control after the catch, then started to lose it just as he was going out of bounds? Don't see how that isn't a catch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, KellysHandWarmer said: To me it looked like he clearly gained control after the catch, then started to lose it just as he was going out of bounds? Don't see how that isn't a catch... He did gain control, but never got two feet down after he lost control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellysHandWarmer Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Just now, Motorin' said: He did gain control, but never got two feet down after he lost control. Why would he have to get two feet down twice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 1 minute ago, KellysHandWarmer said: Why would he have to get two feet down twice? Cause he lost control of the ball before completing the catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellysHandWarmer Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: Cause he lost control of the ball before completing the catch. I see that the ball control rules are VERY confusing in the NFL, reading in more detail... What would he have had to do to "fully" complete the catch? He established control while clearly having both feet in bounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, KellysHandWarmer said: I see that the ball control rules are VERY confusing in the NFL, reading in more detail... What would he have had to do to "fully" complete the catch? He established control while clearly having both feet in bounds. Yeah, just read the rule. Or does clarify things a bit. To complete the catch he has to make a "move common to the game." Which I don't think he does. Though the rule says taking a 3rd step counts as a move common to the game, they've ruled no catch this year after 4 steps and then the ball moves when they go to the ground... So assuming the catch wasn't completed, by rule he doesn't have to get two feet down again after a loss of control. It's no catch if he's touching out of bounds when he re-establishes control. But if he's touching in bounds when he re-establishes control it's a catch after he survives the ground. It's much closer to a catch than I thought, there would have to be a camera angle showing part of his foot touching out of bounds when we re-establishes control. Edited January 16, 2023 by Motorin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 10 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Just watched the replay of fumble return. Wasn't that a block in the back @ the 30 yard line. Bengals player pushed him right down from behind! ?? Heinous! /smdh Easy call to make since there was no other players in the way etc. NFL wanted CIN v BUF... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KellysHandWarmer Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Motorin' said: To complete the catch he has to make a "move common to the game." Which I don't think he does. Though the rule says taking a 3rd step counts as a move common to the game, they've ruled no catch this year after 4 steps and the ball moves when they go to the ground... So assuming the catch wasn't completed, by the rule he doesn't have to get two feet down again after a loss of control. It's no catch if he's touching out of bounds when he re-establishes control. But if he's touching in bounds when he re-establishes control it's a catch after he survives the ground. It's much closer to a catch than I thought, there would have to be a camera angle showing part of his foot touching out of bounds when we re-establishes control. Thanks for explaining. Sounds, too, like there is a discrepancy between the rules and what is sometimes called on the field... as seems to be the case with so many penalties that are inconsistently called. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, KellysHandWarmer said: I see that the ball control rules are VERY confusing in the NFL, reading in more detail... What would he have had to do to "fully" complete the catch? He established control while clearly having both feet in bounds. It's confusing because it's different as depending if it's in bounds or out of bounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, Motorin' said: He did gain control, but never got two feet down after he lost control. He had control. Got two feet in bounds then fumbled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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