GunnerBill Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 7 hours ago, Scott7975 said: I agree with you sort of. Yes, teams need a good QB and Lamar is one of those. He is going to win a lot of games with his athleticism. The problem is that I dont believe he is ever going to get past both Josh and Mahomes or even Burrow to get to the show. If he did by chance have that amazing season where the stars aligned, I do believe he could compete with the NFC because they dont really have a Josh or a Mahomes. The only way Lamar is winning a SB is if he has stellar defense. Once they pay this guy they aint going to have stellar defense. They really dont even have stellar defense now IMO. Once he starts losing that athleticism then what? He isnt a good enough passer to compensate. Ive seen nothing in his 5 years in the league to show me thats going to improve. More and more teams are already containing him in the AFC too. They may have a good record this season but they havent beaten anybody other than Cinci. That was barely a win and I dont think Cinci had Chase at the time either. Win or lose they have struggle against most of their games this season. I dont see that changing. He isnt getting better as a passer. He is actually getting worse. He isnt going to get better as an athlete. Only thing they can do is get better on defense. Thats not going to happen after they pay him unless they get some steals in the draft. I don't think he is getting worse as a passer. I disagree there. I get the "can you see him getting past Mahomes, Allen and Burrow?" argument... and consistently, no I can't. I can't see Lamar reaching multiple Superbowls and have said that from the start. But is there a path to one in a lightening in a bottle season? Sure. Chase did play when they beat the Bengals btw. On a FG drive at the end that was pretty much all Jackson. The bigger point though, even if he never gets to a Superbowl is what is the alternative for the Ravens? It is the exact argument I had when people were nonsensically saying the Cowboys should let Dak go. You can't stand and shout "stop the world I want to get off." It sucks for teams with QBs in the bottom half of the top 10 that the market isn't good at distinguishing the good (Lamar, Dak, Carr) from the great. But that is the market. Your alternative is to say stop the world I want to get off and suck until you find someone who is top 3 in the NFL. That is not a plan. It is a wing and a prayer. When you have a guy as good as Lamar you have to lean into it and build around him accordingly. The Ravens have done that well in terms of scheme. Not sure they have done as great a job with offensive weapons. But actually their mine issue this year and last has been keeping their guys (Lamar included) healthy. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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