Steptide Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 The bills seem to try and go for the throat as soon as they get to the redzone. They have to stop doing this. Josh, Dorsey, whoever, needs to take the easy throws for small (or large gains). Can't just sling it to the endzone as soon as you get inside the 20 1 Quote
Nextmanup Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 9:52 PM, CEN-CAL17 said: It’s not all on Josh…. Both sides of the ball the play calling is skeptical at best…. The get away from the run to fast. OT Minnesota game, 2 Timeouts left…. Run the ball. Thought it was prime for a QB sweep. Expand There are many things to blame, but Josh's INTs are easily the most significant factor in the loss. 1 Quote
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 Heard Frank Reich might be available. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 10:00 PM, BigDingus said: Don't even start with this... I don't want to hear blame on Frazier, Dorsey, McDermott, Gabe, Knox, Edmunds, etc etc etc... you know, all the usual shifting of blame. We had every opportunity to win it, and at each turn, Josh made costly mistakes. That simple, regardless of ANYTHING else. We're lucky the Packers were so bad, otherwise it'd be a 3 game losing skid, all with multiple INT games from Allen. Expand Josh is playing like crap. This has happened before. My question is can Dorsey do what Daboll has done in the past and get Josh right again? Quote
buffblue Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) On 11/13/2022 at 10:20 PM, CEN-CAL17 said: How many carries has Hines got? Glad we traded for him! Duke is coming off the PS to play goal line and return KOs, who makes those decisions?! This team is frustrating. Don’t be surprised if we finish with a 10-7 record and miss the playoffs. The decision making is that bad! Expand It's mind boggling. The Bills have been made out to be a model organization by the national media, but it's clear most of the team's success is because of a handful of outstanding players. I have honestly lost faith in this leadership Edited November 13, 2022 by buffblue 2 Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 11:08 PM, buffblue said: It's mind boggling. The Bills have been made out to be a model organization by the national media, but it's clear most of the team's success is because of a handful of outstanding players. I have honestly lost faith in this leadership Expand Like get creative! Put Oliver in a FB, try McKenzie in the backfield, motion him out. Do a trick play for once. There’s zero designed roll outs, naked boots etc… it’s Allen, 3/5 step drop, scramble and hope a WR gets open. 4 Quote
TFBillsfan Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 9:55 PM, Ya Digg? said: To me this loss comes down to 2 plays - going for it on 4th down when they should've just kicked the field goal and Cam Lewis going for the interception when all he needed to do was knock that ball down. Both were inexcusable Expand And would have been just a simple play by Lewis to make! SMH Not taking a FG to go up 13 to start the 4th qtr was beyond defensible. Minny would have needed TWO TD’s to win. Still beyond PO’d about that decision. 1 Quote
TFBillsfan Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 10:45 PM, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: We were already up by 2 scores. Kicking a FG when you're up 10 to go up 13 doesn't change that. I liked the decision to go for it there. Expand Disagree they would have needed TWO TD’s instead of a TD and FG. Big big difference. Quote
Process Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 9:55 PM, Ya Digg? said: To me this loss comes down to 2 plays - going for it on 4th down when they should've just kicked the field goal and Cam Lewis going for the interception when all he needed to do was knock that ball down. Both were inexcusable Expand The play calls on 2nd, 3rd and 4th down were way worse then the decision to go for it. Dorsey ***** sucks. Quote
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 10:19 PM, pennstate10 said: Nope. Those incompletions were why we were able to come back for a fg. Expand If they werent incomplete they most likely run out of time before giving us a chance to fumble and give them a TD. Quote
Billz4ever Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 9:52 PM, CEN-CAL17 said: It’s not all on Josh…. Both sides of the ball the play calling is skeptical at best…. The get away from the run to fast. OT Minnesota game, 2 Timeouts left…. Run the ball. Thought it was prime for a QB sweep. Expand None of that matters when the game was ours to win. Plenty of time left, we are marching, and Josh forces a ball for no reason when the shorter routes were open. Quote
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 9:58 PM, NoSaint said: throw it away then. You are in fg range in OT. You don’t have to win the game on that play. Expand He’s still got some growth he needs to realize. Looking for the kill shot in that situation is bad football 1 Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 13, 2022 Author Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 11:51 PM, Billz4ever said: None of that matters when the game was ours to win. Plenty of time left, we are marching, and Josh forces a ball for no reason when the shorter routes were open. Expand That’s the point, call passing plays with shorter routes, your first, second third reads…. Not your 4/5 read… or run the ball, a draw etc… That play at the end was designed for the end zone. Quote
NoSaint Posted November 13, 2022 Posted November 13, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 11:53 PM, Over 29 years of fanhood said: He’s still got some growth he needs to realize. Looking for the kill shot in that situation is bad football Expand yup. Ran that play like he was down 4 with 15 seconds. Just reckless. On 11/13/2022 at 11:53 PM, CEN-CAL17 said: That’s the point, call passing plays with shorter routes, your first, second third reads…. Not your 4/5 read… or run the ball, a draw etc… That play at the end was designed for the end zone. Expand which is fine as long as you don’t force it. It’s a common play call to send 4 verticals. Quote
CEN-CAL17 Posted November 14, 2022 Author Posted November 14, 2022 Plain and Simple this team currently has an issue running the ball… even when they can, they quickly abandoned it. Also having issues stopping the run. All on top of questionable coaching…. I’d ask McD…. “On Cam Lewis botched interception, were all the players and sideline yelling to bat the ball/swat the ball down, and not go for the interception? If not, why not?”…. Bet nobody said shiz, a PS guy called up trying to be a hero cause nobody is talking. Quote
Billz4ever Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 11:53 PM, CEN-CAL17 said: That’s the point, call passing plays with shorter routes, your first, second third reads…. Not your 4/5 read… or run the ball, a draw etc… That play at the end was designed for the end zone. Expand Most passing plays have multiple reads at short, medium, and longer distances. The underneath was open. The pass to Gabe was well covered. You never throw that ball. There was nothing wrong with the play. Josh forced the ball when he had other options that were open. Quote
popcornpam Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 11:51 PM, Billz4ever said: None of that matters when the game was ours to win. Plenty of time left, we are marching, and Josh forces a ball for no reason when the shorter routes were open. Expand Why didn’t our head coach take a time out during Overtime to talk it over with Josh and the the OC, when we were down towards the goal line. Why was he saving it? It’s not like we were going back on defense. Quote
KOKBILLS Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 10:00 PM, Ya Digg? said: Should've never gotten to that point if Lewis knocks that ball down Expand 100%...I know it's a split second thing...But the fact that he tried to catch that ball instead of just about anything else is the only reason Jefferson has a chance to make the miraculous play...Going for the catch kept the ball right there. It's a lack of understanding situational football...Knocking it away is actually better than the INT there...Ugh...Can't believe that happened... 1 Quote
RyanC883 Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/13/2022 at 9:57 PM, MPT said: Yes, but all his receivers are in the endzone for absolutely no ***** reason. The only guy who should have been that far down field is Gabe. Instead, Dorsey is forcing Allen to either scramble or throw into an endzone 20 yards away that is packed with defenders. Expand both were issues today. Play should never have been called, and JA should have thrown it away. Quote
Billz4ever Posted November 14, 2022 Posted November 14, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 12:15 AM, popcornpam said: Why didn’t our head coach take a time out during Overtime to talk it over with Josh and the the OC, when we were down towards the goal line. Why was he saving it? It’s not like we were going back on defense. Expand Take a T.O. for what? We were moving the ball just fine. And even if they do take a T.O., so what? What says Josh still doesn't force that ball? Quote
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