Warriorspikes51 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I just saw a tweet that Bills have dinned with OBJ at Allen’s house at some point in the past, I did not know that. I thought “expressing interest” was as far as it’s gone. last December. Von Allen and Gabe I believe it was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Pre the latest injury, he definitely fit the good hands twitchy separator that Josh seems to do well with. If he hasn’t lost a step, he’d add a lot to the offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 14 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: last December. Von Allen and Gabe I believe it was Totally forgot about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 DeAndre Hopkins could be a good target. I think his trade value is going down and he may be within reason. He is only 30 years old, he'll be 31 for this next up coming season, (which is the same age as Devante and only 1 year older than Diggs). There is no real sign of him slowing down and speed and explosiveness was never really part of his game anyhow, he is just a tremendous, physical route runner with the best hands in the league. I wouldn't be surprised that a 4th rounder could get the deal done. Maybe if you even sweeten the pot and trade Oliver and a 5th, the Cardinals may even eat a few million from the cap hit themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: He won’t be available then… Beckham has been trying to get signed for about 4 months and the Cowboys just traded for Brandin Cooks, which probably takes them out of the running. He would be better off playing with an elite qb for a year and getting a bigger contract afterwards. He hasn't reached 1000 yards since 2019 and his health is a concern. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Beane is likely just patiently waiting for OBJ's other options to dry up so he can swoop in with a cheap prove-it deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, Allen2Diggs said: Beckham has been trying to get signed for about 4 months and the Cowboys just traded for Brandin Cooks, which probably takes them out of the running. He would be better off playing with an elite qb for a year and getting a bigger contract afterwards. He hasn't reached 1000 yards since 2019 and his health is a concern. I don't think he has enough left in his body for a prove-it deal. This is his last shot at a big deal and teams are rightfully nervous. Beane is doing the right thing by waiting until OBJ realizes the reality of the situation. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Magox said: DeAndre Hopkins could be a good target. I think his trade value is going down and he may be within reason. He is only 30 years old, he'll be 31 for this next up coming season, (which is the same age as Devante and only 1 year older than Diggs). There is no real sign of him slowing down and speed and explosiveness was never really part of his game anyhow, he is just a tremendous, physical route runner with the best hands in the league. I wouldn't be surprised that a 4th rounder could get the deal done. Maybe if you even sweeten the pot and trade Oliver and a 5th, the Cardinals may even eat a few million from the cap hit themselves. the red flag on slowing down is getting popped for performance enhancers I’m a big fan of his play but he’s a big question mark going forward in his 30s and being tested frequently 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Magox said: DeAndre Hopkins could be a good target. I think his trade value is going down and he may be within reason. He is only 30 years old, he'll be 31 for this next up coming season, (which is the same age as Devante and only 1 year older than Diggs). There is no real sign of him slowing down and speed and explosiveness was never really part of his game anyhow, he is just a tremendous, physical route runner with the best hands in the league. I wouldn't be surprised that a 4th rounder could get the deal done. Maybe if you even sweeten the pot and trade Oliver and a 5th, the Cardinals may even eat a few million from the cap hit themselves. Oliver and a 4th for hopkins would be perfect. Dunno why the cards would want Oliver though. I suspect that there would be a better trade available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Magox said: DeAndre Hopkins could be a good target. I think his trade value is going down and he may be within reason. He is only 30 years old, he'll be 31 for this next up coming season, (which is the same age as Devante and only 1 year older than Diggs). There is no real sign of him slowing down and speed and explosiveness was never really part of his game anyhow, he is just a tremendous, physical route runner with the best hands in the league. I wouldn't be surprised that a 4th rounder could get the deal done. Maybe if you even sweeten the pot and trade Oliver and a 5th, the Cardinals may even eat a few million from the cap hit themselves. Hopkins would require way too much money as well as Draft compensation. He has a 31 million dollar cap hit this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Hopkins would require way too much money as well as Draft compensation. He has a 31 million dollar cap hit this season. ….it’s already known he would restructure his deal for acquiring team…like Cooks did with Dallas….. Edited March 19, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: ….it’s already known he would restructure his deal for acquiring team…like Cooks did with Dallas….. Restructure what? He's only got this year and next year left on his deal. And his cap hit next season is 27 million. There's no way to restructure his deal or extend a player the caliber of Nuke without paying a fortune. I don't see us doing that and giving up compensation. Especially given our cap situation this year, the amount of holes we still have to fill, and our cap situation next year (again 18+ plus over the cap). And doing so would be giving up on extending Gabe after this season, which Beane doesn't sound like he wants to do, if his last presser was any indication. Way more likely we gamble on OBJ for a year, trade for someone more manageable like Jeudy for a year or two, and/or Draft someone. Even if we could, there's no way we'd pay Diggs what we're paying him and then pay for Nuke. Any way you slice it, Hopkins is a Madden like pipedream for this season. Edited March 19, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 6 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Restructure what? He's only got this year and next year left on his deal. And his cap hit next season is 27 million. There's no way to restructure his deal or extend a player the caliber of Nuke without paying a fortune. I don't see us doing that and giving up compensation. Especially given our cap situation this year, the amount of holes we still have to fill, and our cap situation next year (again 18+ plus over the cap). And doing so would be giving up on extending Gabe after this season, which Beane doesn't sound like he wants to do, if his last presser was any indication. Way more likely we gamble on OBJ for a year, trade for someone more manageable like Jeudy for a year or two, and/or Draft someone. Even if we could, there's no way we'd pay Diggs what we're paying him and then pay for Nuke. Any way you slice it, Hopkins is a Madden like pipedream for this season. It amazes me people think we can take on that kind of cap hit lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 10 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: It amazes me people think we can take on that kind of cap hit lol These are the "cap doesn't exist" people. They think every year an infinite amount of money can be found anytime we want to without consequence. The cap can be finessed. But it's a real thing. And eventually the bill comes due. We're seeing it right now by being 18+ over this year and it's the same thing next season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 If we get him, I hope it goes well, but this thread could turn out to be one page for every 5 yards he gets with us... (800 yards / 150 pages). Quite the investment for not a spectacular return, in terms of fan capital. Again, I hope I'm wrong and if we get him he tops 1000 yards. But at his age and with his history, I'm not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) I wouldn't mind it if the Bills sign him to a 1-year prove it deal. No way I would give him a long-term contract if I were Beane. Edited March 20, 2023 by Gregg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 19 hours ago, NoSaint said: the red flag on slowing down is getting popped for performance enhancers I’m a big fan of his play but he’s a big question mark going forward in his 30s and being tested frequently i forget what it was exactly, but i remember it was a peptide related to healing much more than any performance enhancer. it really doesnt overly concern me as something hed pop for again. silly that players get any pushback about taking things for injury. the whole league should be on low dose growth for longevity and recovery. growth hormone isnt 'cheating', its not making anyone faster, stronger twitchier. just helps nagging injuries, improves their quality of play, and quality of the product on field. in 10years everyone will be laughing that this was ever a thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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boyst Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: i'm starting to think i'd be pleasantly happy if OBJ took a trip to Best Korea, or maybe decided to take up alligator wrestling or something else. just make him go away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) Someone mentioned everyone on ESPN was just talking about the Bills going for OBJ 14 hours ago, GolfandBills said: It amazes me people think we can take on that kind of cap hit lol Arizona can agree to take on a good chunk of salary.... Edited March 20, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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