djp14150 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Which is a crime. No it’s not if she said she was 18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Come on, Pegula… Step up… Your franchise is in crisis… and your Pegula Sports crisis management team is abysmal… You need to assure the team, the community, and your fellow owners you have some plan… So far, you are failing the test of leadership… 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Originally, practice was going to be at 3 and McDermott was going to speak before Practice. Then they said Practice was going to be moved to 4 bc they got in late and McDermott would still speak before Practice. Then they said Practice would be at 4, but McDermott would now speak post Practice. I think this speaks volumes that they're trying to get all their ducks in a row before McDermott speaks again. Which is sad because he should just be focusing on Practice and Beane should be speaking. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Believer said: Come on, Pegula… Step up… Your franchise is in crisis… and your Pegula Sports crisis management team is abysmal… You need to assure the team, the community, and your fellow owners you have some plan… So far, you are failing the test of leadership… There’s not much any of them can say. They can’t give any info of what they know right now. The only statement to make really is if they decide to cut him 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 52 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Am I really comparing gang rape to murder? Yes, yes I am. I think it's worse, and I'll die on that hill. Is this trolling, I’m old and not even sure I know what trolling is, but are their other people here who share the opinion that ending a woman’s life isn’t as bad as sexually assaulting them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 hours ago, mannc said: What is your basis for this statement? Just curious…did he say that? https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/27/bills-investigation-of-matt-araiza-didnt-include-information-from-alleged-victims-perspective/ Quote Attorney Dan Gilleon said that he informed team counsel Kathryn D’Angelo regarding the situation in late July. “She seemed like she was concerned,” Gilleon told the AP. “She says she’ll get back to me, and then she never did. I even followed up and said, ‘Hey, you guys haven’t talked to me and called me back like you said you would.’ And they just ignored that, too.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mango said: They do have more access. The NFL and teams hire LEO professionals to vet all their players pre draft. Pat MacAfee said as much the other day and flat out said “they knew”. Rob Maadi asked 5 FO’s. 3 said they didn’t know. 2 said they did. The two that didn’t said it didn’t effect their draft status because they weren’t going to draft a punter anyways. Are we supposed to believe that people that people who weren’t drafting a punter had access. But the team that drafted him didn’t? I don’t buy it. For years we’ve heard stories of prospects talk about how surprised they were at what teams knew about them in their pre draft interviews. The Bills knew. If they didn’t know, they didn’t do their due diligence. I've been rolling this around in my brain. It's not just the LEOs, but the team's area scouts and scouting assistants talk to coaches, athletic trainers, teammates, roommates - all trying to get a sense of what the player is like, because success in the NFL these days is at least as much about willingness to focus and work hard and avoid distractions as it is about physical talent. They also as I understand it, try to have younger assistants who are closer to college age hang out in college bars and just "shoot the *****" to see what comes up. So the Bills could have known about it (since other teams did) and arguably should have known about it. But did they know? I think part of what is eating at McDermott right now is that they honestly didn't - or at least, knew part of it but not all. Perhaps Araiza told them there was an incident involving sex with a young woman who said she was a college student, but turned out to be under 18. Perhaps Araisa did not tell them that the same young woman alleges she was gang raped later that night at the same party. Perhaps he did not disclose this, even when he read the 3 June LA Times article that spurred him to hire a defense attorney. I think, in hindsight, part of what Beane was reflecting over "we have to review our procedures" for drafting players, when he traded Cody Ford, may have been some procedural gap or judgement call on the part of the area scout about what to write up on a 6th round prospect, which either failed to include this information or failed to uncover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, julian said: Is this trolling, I’m old and not even sure I know what trolling is, but are their other people here who share the opinion that ending a woman’s life isn’t as bad as sexually assaulting them ? I'm not trolling, but don't recontextualize my statement. There's no need for less accurate descriptions. Edited August 27, 2022 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: There’s not much any of them can say. They can’t give any info of what they know right now. The only statement to make really is if they decide to cut him Yup. Can’t imagine “We’ve done an investigation and currently believe Matt Araiza when he says he is innocent of these accusations” will go over well. Because that’s all they could say if they aren’t cutting him. Due to this being an ongoing lawsuit, they can’t exactly trot out a lawyer to start giving an opening statement outlining why they feel that way. Edited August 27, 2022 by SCBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Captain Caveman said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/27/bills-investigation-of-matt-araiza-didnt-include-information-from-alleged-victims-perspective/ His comments sounds like something I have said to past gfs. "Hey, why aren't you talking to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattymafia Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Can we hit 300 pages by end of weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 If he's still on the roster as practice starts that tells me they aren't cutting him. I'm really interested to see what the Bills say. If they're still sticking with him they must have pretty strong evidence that he had nothing to do with the alleged rape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, HappyDays said: If he's still on the roster as practice starts that tells me they aren't cutting him. I'm really interested to see what the Bills say. If they're still sticking with him they must have pretty strong evidence that he had nothing to do with the alleged rape. With the current timing of things I honestly don't expect them to cut him separately from the rest of the final cutdowns. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Just now, Captain Caveman said: With the current timing of things I honestly don't expect them to cut him separately from the rest of the final cutdowns. Plus he is a punter, though he is a rookie there's not much he has to be ready for. I could see them giving him personal time off and not having him at practice for the distraction alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/27/bills-investigation-of-matt-araiza-didnt-include-information-from-alleged-victims-perspective/ So they were informed of the situation from her lawyer but don't have her perspective on the situation, so is he terrible at his job or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, Captain Caveman said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/08/27/bills-investigation-of-matt-araiza-didnt-include-information-from-alleged-victims-perspective/ That’s pretty vague. It shows that the Bills did in fact speak to her lawyer. It’s safe to say her lawyer told them plenty about the allegations…he doesn’t say that he made his client available to them and he doesn’t say what he would have told the team if they called back that he didn’t tell them initially. I think you’re putting too much faith in the word of the esteemed Mr Gilleon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Given all the attention around Araiza's spot on the roster I think it is only fair that the Bills make an exception to this rule. The fans deserve to know what's going on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mattymafia said: Can we hit 300 pages by end of weekend? Guaranteed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believer Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: There’s not much any of them can say Agree… But as owner, he should be visible, and like McD, express empathy for all involved… and his confidence in the ongoing internal investigation and upcoming decision process… Doubt Jerry Jones would be hiding… Unimpressed… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Given all the attention around Araiza's spot on the roster I think it is only fair that the Bills make an exception to this rule. The fans deserve to know what's going on. If he is practicing, or not, just opens things up to even more rumors and questions before mcd speaks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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