Trump stole top secret nuclear docs - greatest security risk in US history - MORE TAPES!!!

[Doc]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

One of these things, is not like the other......

 

 

 

Trump stole top secret nuclear documentation - the greatest security risk in US history

 

 

AG Merrick Garland Took Weeks to 'Deliberate' Before Signing Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant Application

 

https://redstate.com/brutalbrittany/2022/08/16/no-urgency-ag-merrick-garland-took-weeks-to-deliberate-before-signing-mar-a-lago-search-warrant-application-n612885

 

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And it took 18 months for them to take action.  

[cle23]

6 hours ago, DRsGhost said:

 

Plenty of evidence that you've ignored because you've been told to.

 

Want to square mail in voting is not secure vs. We just had the largest number of mail in votes in US history and golly gee it was also the most secure election on US history...

 

Or nah?

 

Simply saying " mail in ballots aren't secure" is not evidence though.  If there is evidence that fraud occurred, then show it, prosecute the people who did it, and move on.  If it is shown that people orchestrated it, then throw them in jail as well.

 

There is fraud in almost every level of everything.  Not a lot anyone can do to completely prevent fraud.  But just shouting "this is fraudulent" without then showing that it actually was isn't the correct response either.  

 

Would it have been fraudulent if Trump won as well?

[BillsFanNC]

9 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

Simply saying " mail in ballots aren't secure" is not evidence though.  If there is evidence that fraud occurred, then show it, prosecute the people who did it, and move on.  If it is shown that people orchestrated it, then throw them in jail as well.

 

 

Of course it isn't evidence.  I said the same five posts back and multiple times before that.  That's the whole point of why mass mail in balloting is not secure and dangerous, it's nearly impossible to prove when fraud occurs.  Once the ballot is separated from the envelope that contains the signature that ballot becomes indistinguishable from any other ballot.

 

Again, this is the reason why there was bipartisan support for limiting mail in absentee voting to only specific cases where people truly can't make it to their polling place.  It's too easy to cheat with mail in ballots and this was universally accepted prior to 2020.  What happened in 2020?

 

Mail in ballots and ballot applications were mailed out to out of date, corrupt voter rolls in many swing states.  Some states in addition to doing this also removed the signature verification procedure.  Gasoline on a fire.

 

So we have a system that everyone agreed was easily susceptible to fraud, then we increased the access to that system and then took it a step beyond and removed the lone remaining element that could catch fraudulent ballots by limiting or eliminating signature verification.

 

The more appropriate word for all of this isn't fraud.  It's rigged.

 

If you take that fact pattern and throw up your arms and just say well it can't be proven or worse you buy the ridiculous propaganda that it amounts to the most secure election in US History, then I've got that awesome ocean front property in Iowa to sell you.

 

 

 

9 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

There is fraud in almost every level of everything.  Not a lot anyone can do to completely prevent fraud.  But just shouting "this is fraudulent" without then showing that it actually was isn't the correct response either.  

 

Again, the point is to limit the opportunity to commit fraud in the first place.  That most certainly did not happen in 2020.  It was a fraud-a-palooza free for all.

 

9 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

Would it have been fraudulent if Trump won as well?

 

Yep.  Because I have principles.  Had Trump won in 2020 under the same set of circumstances something tells me that fraud would have been found quite readily.  Remember that the GOP fought all these unconstitutional election law changes tooth and nail in 2020.  They knew that universal mail in voting wasn't going to benefit them.

 

Obama on mail in voting...

 

 

[Tiberius]

Oh boy. Trump is losing it 

 

 

[Nineforty]

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Myth #2: As long as information has been declassified by competent authority or is otherwise unclassified, former government officials (to include a former president) are free to possess and/or disclose the information at will.

 

False.  Much of the unclassified information created by the federal government’s executive branch or otherwise in its custody is nonetheless sensitive and requires safeguarding or dissemination controls pursuant to and consistent with applicable law, regulations, and government-wide policies. Known as Controlled Unclassified Information, examples include information relating to federal taxpayers, witness protection, critical infrastructure protection and nuclear security. Both current and former government officials are subject to administrative or criminal sanctions should they improperly disclose or otherwise mishandle such unclassified information. Moreover, the unauthorized possession of certain controlled unclassified information such as Naval Nuclear Propulsion Information could be subject to prosecution under, among other statutes, 18 USC 793 of the Espionage Act, which does not mention classified information but rather applies to closely held national defense information the disclosure of which, if publicly known, could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation.

 

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Myth #5: Former presidents control the disposition of their White House records.

 

False.  Starting with the administration of President Ford, and in reaction to the Watergate scandal of the Nixon administration, in addition to the Federal Records Act, records of each presidential administration are controlled by the Presidential Records Act (PRA), depending upon which element of the White House is involved. In this Act, Congress made it clear that the American people, not the former president, owns the records and assigns responsibility to the incumbent president for the custody and management of his presidential records. As stated in the Act, records can be in any media, including textual, audiovisual, and electronic.

 

While many presidential records have been lost to history, starting with Franklin Roosevelt the tradition has been to make presidential records available to the public at presidential libraries. Congress legislated this policy, passing the Presidential Libraries Act in 1955 with the intent to preserve the documents and artifacts of our presidents, helping the American people to learn about our nation and our democracy. Beginning five years after the end of an administration, researchers and other members of the public can begin to access the records of a prior administration subject to the restrictions of the PRA and the Freedom of Information Act, including the current rules governing the safeguarding of classified information.

 

The declassification of presidential papers and records presents some unique issues and concerns which normally require a page-by-page or paragraph-by-paragraph review and referral to the originating agency. Because of their highest policy and classification level, presidential records often contain equities, information in which a classifying agency has an interest and need to review before declassification. In addition, the records often contain multiple agency equities requiring referral to more than one agency. Several equities can be present in a single presidential document. In addition, the statutory authorities governing presidential papers and records usually require a page-by-page (or paragraph-by-paragraph) review for other concerns such as statutory restrictions and privacy.

In sum, records of a president that were used during official duties belong to the American people – not to the president – and decisions about declassification and access to those materials are made by professionals within the federal government with the continuing responsibility to ensure that any disclosures do not place the security of our nation at increased risk.

 

https://www.justsecurity.org/82706/myths-misunderstandings-relating-to-mar-a-lago-documents-investigation/

Edited August 16, 2022 by Nineforty

[Nineforty]

 

 

[Westside]

On 8/15/2022 at 3:34 PM, DRsGhost said:

Joe Biden in no way shape or form got anywhere close to 81 million legal votes. Period.

 

Talk about brainwashed.

They’re the cult. Or could be a fatal case of Donkeypox.

[Tiberius]

 

[Doc]

"Sources close to Trump."  

 

When will they ever learn?

[L Ron Burgundy]

7 hours ago, Westside said:

They’re the cult. Or could be a fatal case of Donkeypox.

Lol, this guy.  I know you are but what am i?????

 

I dont see anyone twisting themselves into pretzels defending Biden.  Most people say if he's guilty of anything he should be punished.

 

Meanwhile,  your tool buddies tried to overthrow the government but are soooooo stupid instead they wiped their own crap on the walls of the Capitol.  You and Darth Rhino believe the same dumb shiite they do.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

One thing is for sure… all of this nonsense is making a lot of lawyers money!! Viva la corrupt elites and bureaucrats!!!! 

[BillStime]

 

[Brueggs]

14 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Lol, this guy.  I know you are but what am i?????

 

I dont see anyone twisting themselves into pretzels defending Biden.  Most people say if he's guilty of anything he should be punished.

 

Meanwhile,  your tool buddies tried to overthrow the government but are soooooo stupid instead they wiped their own crap on the walls of the Capitol.  You and Darth Rhino believe the same dumb shiite they do.  

Can you honestly say that you believe that was a genuine effort to overthrow the government?  

[SectionC3]

On 8/16/2022 at 8:03 AM, All_Pro_Bills said:

It would be rather simple to redact names and protect the identity of any witness and still release the affidavit to provide clarity around the justification and rationale behind the warrant.  Such a high profile case demands more transparency given all the rumors and theories being generated.  

 

I could start with the magistrate.  He steps down from his judicial position in order to take the job of defense attorney for a couple defendants in the Epstein case.  Once that is over he's reinstated to his position.  The Trump vs. Clinton civil case is assigned to him.  But back in June he suddenly recuses himself from the case for reasons I'm not aware of and resurfaces last week as the magistrate issuing the warrant for the search and seizure operation against Trump.  So an obscure and rather insignificant magistrate in Florida is involved in three high profile cases.   Perhaps just a coincidence?  Perhaps not.  What I find most interesting is how so few appear to be the least bit curious about all of these events that when combined weave an interesting picture where somebody could easily conclude Reinhart is some kind of political "cleaner" that's called into action when somebody makes a mess of things.       

Hoax.  Unless you’ve read the instrument you cannot know that to be true. 

33 minutes ago, Brueggs said:

Can you honestly say that you believe that was a genuine effort to overthrow the government?  

Yes.  It occurred on January 6.

[Brueggs]

5 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Yes.  It occurred on January 6.

I would say trespassing, and even a riot, but an actual coordinated effort to overthrow the most powerful government on the planet?  

The worlds next most powerful government doesn't yet have that capability, yet you think a group of unarmed protestors really set out to do it?  Take a little time and think about the reality of that for a minute...

[SoCal Deek]

15 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said:

Lol, this guy.  I know you are but what am i?????

 

I dont see anyone twisting themselves into pretzels defending Biden.  Most people say if he's guilty of anything he should be punished.

 

 

To be found guilty you first gave to have someone investigating your crimes. Hunter is on tape committing multiple crimes and yet nobody’s investigating him, or punishing him. And his father both benefited from it and is enabling it and yet the same group of nobodies are neither investigating him or punishing him. So, I’m sure your right…not! 

Edited August 17, 2022 by SoCal Deek

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Brueggs said:

I would say trespassing, and even a riot, but an actual coordinated effort to overthrow the most powerful government on the planet?  

The worlds next most powerful government doesn't yet have that capability, yet you think a group of unarmed protestors really set out to do it?  Take a little time and think about the reality of that for a minute...

I’ve thought plenty about the insurrection.   It is what it is.  A failed coup.  

23 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

To be found guilty you first gave to have someone investigating your crimes. Hunter is on tape committing multiple crimes and yet nobody’s investigating him, or punishing him. And his father both benefited from it and is enabling it and yet the same group of nobodies are neither investigating him or punishing him. So, I’m sure your right…not! 

You guys spend way too much time obsessing over Hunter Biden and not nearly enough time worrying about the Trumpian threat to democracy. 

[SectionC3]

13 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

One thing is for sure… all of this nonsense is making a lot of lawyers money!! Viva la corrupt elites and bureaucrats!!!! 

Hoax.  This isn’t nonsense.  And it could have been avoided had Trump just, you know, not refused to return sensitive government secrets to the rightful owner of such things.  

[Tenhigh]

3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Hoax.  This isn’t nonsense.  And it could have been avoided had Trump just, you know, not refused to return sensitive government secrets to the rightful owner of such things.  

Hoax.  You don't know if it's nonsense or not at this point.  

[Doc]

50 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I’ve thought plenty about the insurrection.   It is what it is.  A failed coup. 

 

True.  It was a massive failure.  Almost as if they didn't even plan anything at all.    I mean, you'd think they would have studied the Summer of 2020...

[Brueggs]

40 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

I’ve thought plenty about the insurrection.   It is what it is.  A failed coup.  

You would never think it would work, but that small handful of people that control the media are fully aware of this. 

No matter how ridiculous something seems, if you repeat it often enough, people will whole heartedly believe what you tell them.   

Sprinkle in a little self righteousness, and the truth becomes irrelevant, even in the face of it.  

It completely disables the critical thinking process.  

 

[Wacka]

Trump stole the secret recipe to the 13 herbs and spices!

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Hoax.  This isn’t nonsense.  And it could have been avoided had Trump just, you know, not refused to return sensitive government secrets to the rightful owner of such things.  

 

sure pal… if you choose to be naïve enough to dismiss this continual pattern of probe, investigate, subpoena, sue, and refuse to acknowledge there is any political vendetta behind it, while at the same time neglecting to hold accountable all these efforts that keep coming up empty handed, then that’s on you.

 

these shenanigans are nothing but rich and powerful people games… syphoning away the peoples money from constructive activities in the process.
 

if they just let Don crawl into his Twitterless   Black hole we’d probably never hear from him again… but they can’t help themselves… 

 

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 

sure pal… if you choose to be naïve enough to dismiss this continual pattern of probe, investigate, subpoena, sue, and refuse to acknowledge there is any political vendetta behind it, while at the same time neglecting to hold accountable all these efforts that keep coming up empty handed, then that’s on you.

 

these shenanigans are nothing but rich and powerful people games… syphoning away the peoples money from constructive activities in the process.
 

if they just let Don crawl into his Twitterless   Black hole we’d probably never hear from him again… but they can’t help themselves… 

 

Hoax.  We aren’t pals.  
 

Also, hoax as to the rest of your post.  The Don is on the inaptly named truth platform.  And, more importantly, we should let the facts play out to see if he has done such things as secrete nuclear secrets. 

3 hours ago, Wacka said:

Trump stole the secret recipe to the 13 herbs and spices!

Hoax.  This would be much more believable if you said he stole the recipe for the secret sauce from the hamburgler.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, SectionC3 said:

Hoax.  We aren’t pals.  
 

Also, hoax as to the rest of your post.  The Don is on the inaptly named truth platform.  And, more importantly, we should let the facts play out to see if he has done such things as secrete nuclear secrets. 

Hoax.  This would be much more believable if you said he stole the recipe for the secret sauce from the hamburgler.  

Secrete nuclear secrets?? Is that what a radio active spider does? 
 

agreed, we aren’t pals, it was a term of empathy for your sycophantic condition.  Carry on useful idiot… your cult leader needs you 

[BillStime]

🎯

 

Putin installed Trump for a reason - otherwise you cannot explain how apologetic the cult and its leaders have become to Putin.

 

When your party is so detached from reality, middle America and they actually think they are winning. 
 

 

[SectionC3]

10 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Secrete nuclear secrets?? Is that what a radio active spider does? 
 

agreed, we aren’t pals, it was a term of empathy for your sycophantic condition.  Carry on useful idiot… your cult leader needs you 

 

This is not very nice.  I hope you have peace and happiness in your life.  Although I doubt it if you're getting this angry and nasty with an Internet random.  Maybe you're an incel.  Or maybe you regret the fact that you didn't work harder earlier in life and now others have more than you, which you find frustrating.  I don't know.  But I hope you find some sort of peace and joy. 

Edited August 18, 2022 by SectionC3

[aristocrat]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

🎯

 

Putin installed Trump for a reason - otherwise you cannot explain how apologetic the cult and its leaders have become to Putin.

 

When your party is so detached from reality, middle America and they actually think they are winning. 
 

 

so you’re saying they fixed the votes in the election? Thought that wasn’t possible?

[Brueggs]

2 hours ago, BillStime said:

🎯

 

Putin installed Trump for a reason - otherwise you cannot explain how apologetic the cult and its leaders have become to Putin.

 

When your party is so detached from reality, middle America and they actually think they are winning. 
 

 

I see what you did there....The hypocrisy is not lost on me!

[BillsFanNC]

41 minutes ago, aristocrat said:

so you’re saying they fixed the votes in the election? Thought that wasn’t possible?

 

It was possible before it wasn't. 

 

It will be possible again in November. 

[Doc]

"Most secure election in history!!!!!!"  But 2016, well, that's another story. 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, Brueggs said:

I see what you did there....The hypocrisy is not lost on me!

#KANSAS
 

But I’m all for auditing Florida and Texas if you insist

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

… I don't know…. 

 
Good- I see if the noise is filtered out there is some semblance of self awareness under the thick coat of wool and sheepskin. 

 

FYI- only angry people see anger in emotionless text. 

[SectionC3]

11 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

 
Good- I see if the noise is filtered out there is some semblance of self awareness under the thick coat of wool and sheepskin. 

 

FYI- only angry people see anger in emotionless text. 

 

Hoax.  I’m not the one who was name-calling and using mean language.  That’s was you.  I hope it’s not because you’re an incel or that you have regret about not working hard enough earlier in life.  It would be sad if even only one of those things is true.  (And you haven’t denied either one, so I’m more worried now than I was earlier.). I wish you nothing but peace and joy. 

Edited August 18, 2022 by SectionC3

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

24 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

 

Hoax.  I’m not the one who was name-calling and using mean language.  That’s was you.  I hope it’s not because you’re an incel or that you have regret about not working hard enough earlier in life.  It would be sad if even only one of those things is true.  (And you haven’t denied either one, so I’m more worried now than I was earlier.). I wish you nothing but peace and joy. 

The term useful idiot is a very real phenomenon, not arbitrary attack…  to level set and alleviate your deflection mechanism, I have few regrets, much peace and joy and have worked very hard, enjoy great success far beyond what I’d hoped personally and privately… I’m a significant financial net contributor to the system that gleefully wastes my contributions. 

 

if I have any unmanaged concerns at this point it is how the political factions (of which one you are clearly sycophantic to) are a growing detriment to this country for the next generation.  Those who willfully cheerlead or mindlessly participate in that detriment do perturb my otherwise blissful existence. 
 

So you can help me help your worry by becoming someone who thinks for themselves…. Your benefit is you can stop worrying and projecting, both healthy improvements 

[SectionC3]

19 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The term useful idiot is a very real phenomenon, not arbitrary attack…  to level set and alleviate your deflection mechanism, I have few regrets, much peace and joy and have worked very hard, enjoy great success far beyond what I’d hoped personally and privately… I’m a significant financial net contributor to the system that gleefully wastes my contributions. 

 

if I have any unmanaged concerns at this point it is how the political factions (of which one you are clearly sycophantic to) are a growing detriment to this country for the next generation.  Those who willfully cheerlead or mindlessly participate in that detriment do perturb my otherwise blissful existence. 
 

So you can help me help your worry by becoming someone who thinks for themselves…. Your benefit is you can stop worrying and projecting, both healthy improvements 

So you’re saying your an incel?  I didn’t see you address that point.  I’m sorry that things worked out that way for you.  Namaste. 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

15 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

So you’re saying your an incel?  I didn’t see you address that point.  I’m sorry that things worked out that way for you.  Namaste. 

You think my concern for the next generation isn’t personally based?? Of course you wouldn’t connect that… 

 

Interesting how projecting personal deficiencies and insecurity is your MO on a political chat board. 

 

sincerely hope you get help. 
 

[SectionC3]

13 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

You think my concern for the next generation isn’t personally based?? Of course you wouldn’t connect that… 

 

Interesting how projecting personal deficiencies and insecurity is your MO on a political chat board. 

 

sincerely hope you get help. 
 

I think this is a hoax.  Of course, it doesn’t make any sense, so it’s hard to say one way or the other.  So I’ll call this a presumed hoax. 

[Wacka]

A lot aof people on both sides need  something  serious to happen to them to get them to reflect  on what is important.  Alert: it is not polititics or $. While I was laying in a hospital bed for a month after my stroke in 2014 I found that nothing gets me riled up anymore.  Thinking that you may end up like that for the rest of your life does that to you.

Edited August 18, 2022 by Wacka

[Doc]

3 hours ago, SectionC3 said:

So you’re saying your an incel?  I didn’t see you address that point.  I’m sorry that things worked out that way for you.  Namaste. 

 

Are you Indian?