MrEpsYtown Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: I mentioned Bates playing next to brown as opposed to Dawkins in a previous thread. It’s something that isn’t being discussed very much and I think it could have played a part in his tender and possibly moving on from him. I have confidence that Beane will plug the hole properly, but still worried because Ford is currently the place holder. trai Turner played ok last year. Maybe him on a 1 year 3-4M contract could be beneficial for both the player and team I would’ve gone 2nd rd too…..but maybe they are looking for an upgrade. I’m hoping anyway. I guess the tender probably means that either they are looking for an upgrade, or they are confident they can match any offer that isn't ridiculous. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: That would suck… they’ve really done very little to upgrade a bad unit losing Bates wouldn’t help. Find it hard to believe they still have faith in Ford… little disturbing actually… have to imagine they’ll load up on offensive line in the draft. Agreed. But they’ve done a tremendous job of upgrading the DL and adding 3 solid playmakers in Oj, Crowder and Duke. For at most 8.5M between the 3 of them. I’m confident that he’ll fill RG properly. I don’t believe that they have much faith in him, but he’s just on top of the depth chart because he’s the only guy. The wildcard in the ford situation is Kromer. If Kromer says he can make Ford into a player and that he can fit the bill, we could be in trouble. That’s said…. I highly doubt Kromer would say that and Ford will probably be a backup battling for a roster spot. I just don’t think there’s any evidence that would indicate they have faith in him. Edited March 22, 2022 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed. But they’ve done a tremendous job of upgrading the DL and adding 3 solid playmakers in Oj, Crowder and Duke. For at most 8.5M between the 3 of them. I’m confident that he’ll fill RG properly. I don’t believe that they have much faith in him, but he’s just on top of the depth chart because he’s the only guy. The wildcard in the ford situation is Kromer. If Kromer says he can make Ford into a player and that he can fit the bill, we could be in trouble. That’s said…. I highly doubt Kromer would say that and Ford will probably be a backup battling for a roster spot. I just don’t think there’s any evidence that would indicate they have faith in him. Agreed. I think they are just riding out his rookie contract hoping he can turn the corner and become something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: Agreed. But they’ve done a tremendous job of upgrading the DL and adding 3 solid playmakers in Oj, Crowder and Duke. For at most 8.5M between the 3 of them. I’m confident that he’ll fill RG properly. I don’t believe that they have much faith in him, but he’s just on top of the depth chart because he’s the only guy. The wildcard in the ford situation is Kromer. If Kromer says he can make Ford into a player and that he can fit the bill, we could be in trouble. That’s said…. I highly doubt Kromer would say that and Ford will probably be a backup battling for a roster spot. I just don’t think there’s any evidence that would indicate they have faith in him. So apparently it was Kromer who was banging the table for Corbett in LA. When you look at the RAS, Ford is above average and Corbett is really good. Aside from a bad 3 cone and shuttle, the numbers on these two guys are closer than I thought. If Kromer truly believes that he can turn Ford into a serviceable player, I believe him, but I hope they have some insurance that isn't Mancz. If the Jets release Greg Van Roten, I think they will be all over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 41 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Told by whom? A Bears fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) Maybe future RG? Sorry about the Jets Logo And just to torture myself: Turner: Will Hernandez: Edited March 22, 2022 by MrEpsYtown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I guess the tender probably means that either they are looking for an upgrade, or they are confident they can match any offer that isn't ridiculous. I agree that's what it means. As someone else pointed, the Bears just signed a 28 year old C from Green Bay with 34 NFL starts for 2 years, $4M/year. I think the Bills view their max offer on Bates as lower than that (the $3.98M 2nd round tender being pretty much that) 28 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: A Bears fan. A Bears fan who has any insider connections, or a Bears fan who is part of the "legitimately crazed fanbase" Brad Spielberger references as "ready to fire Brad Poole if he doesn't sign a guy whose name they learned 24 hrs ago"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Maybe future RG? Sorry about the Jets Logo And just to torture myself: Turner: Will Hernandez: Van Roten could be the next Brian Winters… or maybe even Vlad Ducasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Rico said: Vlad Ducasse. What I think of when I see that name: The Turnstile!! Edited March 22, 2022 by Special K 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I really wanted Bates back atleast as depth. This team turned a corner when he came in, although I won't claim to know it was or wasn't coincidence...... That said, are we really on page 19 for Rick? Do something alreadyyyyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 NGL, reading through Twitter.. did not expect Ryan Bates to be this hot of a commodity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: A Bears fan who has any insider connections, or a Bears fan who is part of the "legitimately crazed fanbase" Brad Spielberger references as "ready to fire Brad Poole if he doesn't sign a guy whose name they learned 24 hrs ago"? Or maybe a fan of something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 1 hour ago, NewEra said: It should be a major priority even if we retain him imo. Saffold will probably be gone after we win the SB. He was banged up last season too. Bates has 33 career snaps @ RG. I’d draft an OG in rd 1-3 no matter what. I completely agree with this. Saffold at age 33 coming off a shoulder injury is a reasonable short- term upgrade to Williams, but in No Way a "long term plan" at OG. We need to upgrade in the draft. 16 minutes ago, Special K said: What I think of when I see that name: The Turnstile!! I think "Vlad the Impaler", myself He didn't do the impaling, but he sure as heck helped our QB get impaled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 48 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: A Bears fan who has any insider connections, or a Bears fan who is part of the "legitimately crazed fanbase" Brad Spielberger references as "ready to fire Brad Poole if he doesn't sign a guy whose name they learned 24 hrs ago"? I don't think he directly has any insider connections but he generally has his finger on the pulse of the team and the "in the know" twitters. He said their offer is the highest and poison pilled in such a way as to make it v difficult for Buffalo to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I don't think he directly has any insider connections but he generally has his finger on the pulse of the team and the "in the know" twitters. He said their offer is the highest and poison pilled in such a way as to make it v difficult for Buffalo to match. Then we likely won't match it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2022/03/multiple-teams-including-patriots-swarming-on-bills-ryan-bates.html Quote It’s unknown which offer Bates will sign, but it appears that the Patriots are very interested in his services. Evan Lazar of CLNSmedia.com wrote about Bates’ visit which included dinner with Bill Belichick. According to a league source, Bates had a “great visit” with the Patriots, which included dinner on Sunday evening with Bill Belichick and other major decision-makers and continued into Monday. Bates spent a lot of time with Belichick and assistant offensive line coach Billy Yates. Bates will now meet with the Bears on Tuesday, then weigh his options as he plans to sign an offer sheet this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Bates would have signed his tender with the Bills but he doesn't like being called Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Bates would have signed his tender with the Bills but he doesn't like being called Rick He probably also didn’t like spending two years riding the bench behind scrubs… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 For whatever reason they have a really tough time figuring out what to do with guards. Ford, Teller, now Bates - can you imagine if they let Bates leave and he, like Teller, becomes elite elsewhere? And they're again looking for a young guard? Cannot understand the difficulty they have evaluating their own players at IOL. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 So far Beane has been relatively neglectful of his number 1 priority of getting Josh protection. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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