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I’m disappointed so far.  I like the DT signings, and we have a upgrade at Guard for a year.

I really wanted to sign Chandler, and minimize draft needs.   
 

We have huge holes at DE and CB!  Premium positions that require either high draft choices or $15 million+
 

it would be nice if we took care DE, we would still need to spend our 1st on CB most likely.

 

Then we could take care of Josh.  It would awesome if we could use 1st and 2nd rounders and build Josh a great OL.  Let’s protect our $150 million star.   We need  RB, WR, TE 

 

but we keep ***** up DE, no matter how many high draft picks and $ spent.   And we still can’t stop 13 seconds.

 

Bills are on precipice of winning SB- but we need a stud DE and CB, and we are creating holes and neglecting solutions

 

 

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Specific players aside. I just feel like we keep revolving around the same position groups all the time. 

Like we have spent 5 top 100 picks on the front 4 in recent memory. Spent tons of money on Addison, Murphy, Star etc. trying to work the books to try and fit another DL on a highly paid (last year), highly drafted, under performing DL. 

 

Singletary then Moss. 


Estimates are we whittled next years space from $50M to $15M just to get through this offseason. 

I feel like every offseason is the same, with the same needs, and the same results, but the overall cap situation just creeps closer and closer.

In that sense I do not like this offseason so far, even if I like a player or two. 

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7 minutes ago, Pete said:

Then we could take care of Josh.  It would awesome if we could use 1st and 2nd rounders and build Josh a great OL.  Let’s protect our $150 million star.   We need  RB, WR, TE

We could always use upgrades, but those needs are near the bottom in terms of priority. Any WR we bring in is (best case) fighting for a #3 spot. more than likely they're roll with the top 3 they have and let Hodgins, Stevenson and some day 3 rookies fight it out for #4//5. our #2 TE will probably be some league journeyman, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them prioritize a pass catching back who can return kicks and punts as well. The ST portion is probably the biggest need.

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would have liked a resign of Harrison Phillips  ,but replacements seem adequate,wish Harry the best high character guy.

Saffold vs Williams is a wash . Definitely need more bodies there.

dissapointed no TE to go with Knox 

I feel they will snag another WR or two

the running back that pulled out of his deal is replacable

i look for one vet cb and a couple in draft 

concerned we can’t find a pass rusher don’t think there is much in the draft

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16 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:

We could always use upgrades, but those needs are near the bottom in terms of priority. Any WR we bring in is (best case) fighting for a #3 spot. more than likely they're roll with the top 3 they have and let Hodgins, Stevenson and some day 3 rookies fight it out for #4//5. our #2 TE will probably be some league journeyman, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them prioritize a pass catching back who can return kicks and punts as well. The ST portion is probably the biggest need.

 

Kelly had Thurman, and when the Bills were trash they had OJ. It isn’t a coincidence we were super bowl contenders with Kelly/Thurman and others. Those super bowl years was full of top end talent. It’s imperative we get Allen a RB that can just take over games to open up huge throwing lanes for Allen. If we get a star RB, it won’t matter if we drop off in production on defense. 

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6 hours ago, boater said:

There's a lot of shade being thrown at the former NFL Executive of the Year. And this is after a season most other fans would give their left nut for.

 

Could you imagine the vitriol here if the Bills had a bad season. The fans have become spoiled.

And you douche nozzles thought Beane was sleeping at the switch. How about the Von Miller signing? Is that splashy enough for ya?

 

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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:

Diggs was a good player on a favorable contract. I give Beane all the credit in the world for that one. Of course his cap is way up now, but we had an out if he didn't work out.

 

Andrews may have been a UDFA, but he's still making half of what Morse does.

when you pay a guy like Megatron or Donald, does it really matter or not if you drafted them? Maybe they're more willing to pay on a bad team, but if you're giving them market rate, how is it actually helping you?
 

I wasn't raising Megatron or Donald to show that you have to draft them.  I was responding to your statement that when you draft stars, you can't afford to pay them when they come off their rookie deals.   If you draft a guy who shows in four years that he's going to the Hall of Fame, you pay him.  

 

And, yes, it does matter whether you draft Megatron or get him in free agency, for several reasons.   First, as I just said, if you have a Megatron or Donald, he's not going to hit free agency.   

 

Second, most of the guys who do make it to free agency may have had some good-looking years, but they are not sure things like the superstars.  Or, they're superstars on their third contract, like JJ Watt.  So, there's risk in the free agent market.   If you pay big time and the guy craps out, it really hurts.  If you draft a sure-fire star and he craps out, he hasn't ruined your cap. 

 

Third, I wrote about this somewhere today.  If you're building for the long term, you're objective is to have the best talent you can have at the lowest price.  Drafting Josh Allen is much better than signing Josh Allen after his fifth year, because over the his career, if you've drafted him, the average cost per year of having him is lower.   It's kind of like buying Apple stock.   Sure, you can buy it today, at full market price, and it's probably going to be a good performer for you.   But some other guy bought it thirty years ago, or even twenty or ten years ago.   Today, both buyers are getting the same good performance out of Apple, but the guy who bought it early, at the lower price, has done better with his money.  

 

There's a lot of good sense built into how McBeane are doing it.   The only real question, I think, is the one that some people raise, which is whether all of this is based too much on averages - it's great to have the best averages over the long term, but averages don't win conference championship games - players do. 

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1 hour ago, IronMaidenBills said:

 

Kelly had Thurman, and when the Bills were trash they had OJ. It isn’t a coincidence we were super bowl contenders with Kelly/Thurman and others. Those super bowl years was full of top end talent. It’s imperative we get Allen a RB that can just take over games to open up huge throwing lanes for Allen. If we get a star RB, it won’t matter if we drop off in production on defense. 

The Bills built their Super Bowl team before there was a salary cap.    There's pretty much no way today to have a Hall of Fame quarterback, two Hall of Fame receivers, a Hall of Fame running back, and a Hall of Fame edge rusher on the same team, as Cornelius Bennett, Daryl Talley, Steve Tasker, and a bunch of other really good players.  There's no point in saying the Bills should acquire great talent for Allen like they did for Kelly.   It's no longer possible. 

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2 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

The Bills built their Super Bowl team before there was a salary cap.    There's pretty much no way today to have a Hall of Fame quarterback, two Hall of Fame receivers, a Hall of Fame running back, and a Hall of Fame edge rusher on the same team, as Cornelius Bennett, Daryl Talley, Steve Tasker, and a bunch of other really good players.  There's no point in saying the Bills should acquire great talent for Allen like they did for Kelly.   It's no longer possible. 

Still gotta try.  Will it be the same level?  No probably not.  Overall, I like Beanes approach.   Dont over pay for FA.  Make runs at premier players.  Miller even now is a premier player.  Bruce was a productive pass rusher into his late 30’s.  Miller is a gold jacket guy.  They are different humans.  

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Just now, Mat68 said:

Still gotta try.  Will it be the same level?  No probably not.  Overall, I like Beanes approach.   Dont over pay for FA.  Make runs at premier players.  Miller even now is a premier player.  Bruce was a productive pass rusher into his late 30’s.  Miller is a gold jacket guy.  They are different humans.  

While I was writing what you quoted, I hadn't seen the news about Miller.   Holy *****!  

 

One thing I said a few times in the past few weeks is that Beane always, always does something we don't see coming. 

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In an odd sort of way, this is 'same old same old' Beane.

 

Holes are being filled, as per usual.

 

DT's who are supposedly better run stoppers than we have, but who also get some push on the pocket.

 

A vet TE #2, who has some pass catching ability, but has also been used previously as a solid blocker.

 

The above are positions we could reasonably expect to fill in FA, but also quite possibly in the draft.

 

There's also a legit vet Guard, whose forte is run blocking.

 

Then we have the icing on the cake, which is a genuine difference maker at DE in Miller.

 

All of the above are areas where many felt we needed to improve.

 

As previously, Beane seems to concur, which is still refreshing to see.

 

Atm I think that McDermott and Beane, believed that our biggest need, was a talent to make a difference on D, and that is why they have got Miller.

 

The reason I say 'same old, same old' Beane, is it's very much, imho, what they did when they traded for Diggs. I think they saw their biggest need at that time, as a genuine #1 WR, and so made the move for Diggs, in much the same way now, that they have made the move to get Miller.

 

I don't know if anything else has happened as I type this, but I'm pretty certain that we will see a vet CB rought in from somewhere, which = another hole filled, at which point it's 'bring on the draft', where we can, in theory, just stay true to our board. ;)

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10 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:

 

 

I very much agree with this analysis.  The Bills are looking smart so far in what they are doing. Scaffold appears to be a huge upgrade. 

 

I agree, he is an imposing figure:

 

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I just hope he doesn't fall apart halfway into the season:

 

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