The Wiz Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, TAinLA said: Make it a "Flag Football" game. Honestly, I think it would be cool just to make it a skills competition for money and charities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Who would argue the OPs bolded players are not amongst the best in the league? Maybe Taysom Hill should be in the PB? This thread makes no sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 When I was young, I would hyperventilate at Pro Bowl snubs. Now that I'm older, I realize it just isn't important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 6 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Is it though? What is it supposed to mean anyway? I think at one point it was supposed to be a way to honor the best players in the game. That can often be subjective. But when you have outliers like Jackson making it this year over Burrow, Allen and Carr then it makes me think that must not be the meaning anymore. And yeah it probably lost it's meaning years ago. Carr? I mean Josh is a given, as is Burrow, but Carr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The Pro Bowl is the NFL version of a participation trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 The Bills were built to get to the Super Bowl not the Pro Bowl. I’m fine with the players that were selected and haven’t watched the pro bowl in many years. I’m happy that I’m sitting here thinking about the playoffs and NOT thinking one bit about the pro bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, The Wiz said: Honestly, I think it would be cool just to make it a skills competition for money and charities. I have said it before, but they should make a big deal and presentation to make "All Pro" teams. Maybe a 1st and 2nd team from each the AFC and NFC. Probably roll out the league awards too. Make a really nice show out of it. Try to get players to play roles in the show, show personality, etc. All star format just doesn't work well with this sport, especially with all the participants being individual 'brands' worth millions a year and have a lot to lose (and already over-worked). I remember how cool the 'All Madden Team' show was. If they did something like that but with 2021 technology and delivery... and make it important like the NFL can do... it can be much better than a pro bowl. Being all AFC/NFC/NFL will mean something too. Not "Tyrod Taylor should get a larger contract because he was in the Pro Bowl (as the 9th alternate). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 8 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: After todays games I took a look at the Pro Bowl roster for the AFC just to check how many players selected actually made the postseason and was pretty surprised. I know a lot of people believe the Pro Bowl is meaningless popularity contest, but it does matter as far as contract incentives and when players are making their cases for the HOF, so it does frame legacy. Shouldn't something be done about Pro Bowl voting? Yes, this is an individual award, I just have an issue with the Pro Bowl being FULL of players playing for teams who essentially failed the litmus test for a successful season and didn't even earn a chance to play for a championship. Mods, please feel free to merge this to one of the other pro bowl threads if you want. I didn't think this was appropriate for the thread listing our pro bowlers so I figured a new one would be ok. 2022 AFC Pro Bowl roster by position Offense *Denotes starter 8 of 11 starters on Offense did not make the playoffs 6 of 11 starters on Defense did not make the playoffs Quarterback (3) Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens Did not make the playoffs, missed 6 games Running back (3) Jonathan Taylor, Indianapolis Colts* Did not make the playoffs Nick Chubb, Cleveland Browns Did not make the playoffs Joe Mixon, Cincinnati Bengals Wide receiver (4) Tyreek Hill, Kansas City Chiefs* Ja'Marr Chase, Cincinnati Bengals* Stefon Diggs, Buffalo Bills Keenan Allen, Los Angeles Chargers Did not make the playoffs Tight end (2) Mark Andrews, Baltimore Ravens* Did not make the playoffs Travis Kelce, Kansas City Chiefs Offensive tackle (3) Rashawn Slater, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Orlando Brown, Kansas City Chiefs* Dion Dawkins, Buffalo Bills Offensive guard (3) Quenton Nelson, Indianapolis Colts* Did not make the playoffs Joel Bitonio, Cleveland Browns* Did not make the playoffs Wyatt Teller, Cleveland Browns Did not make the playoffs Center (2) Corey Linsley, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Ryan Kelly, Indianapolis Colts Did not make the playoffs Fullback (1) Patrick Ricard, Baltimore Ravens Did not make the playoffs Defense *Denotes starter Defensive end (3) Myles Garrett, Cleveland Browns* Did not make the playoffs Maxx Crosby, Las Vegas Raiders* Trey Hendrickson, Cincinnati Bengals Interior linemen (3) DeForest Buckner, Indianapolis Colts* Did not make the playoffs Chris Jones, Kansas City Chiefs* Cameron Heyward, Pittsburgh Steelers Outside linebacker (3) T.J. Watt, Pittsburgh Steelers* Joey Bosa, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Matt Judon, New England Patriots Inside/Middle linebacker (2) Darius Leonard, Indianapolis Colts* Did not make the playoffs Denzel Perryman, Las Vegas Raiders Cornerback (4) J.C. Jackson, New England Patriots* Xavien Howard, Miami Dolphins* Did not make the playoffs Denzel Ward, Cleveland Browns Did not make the playoffs Kenny Moore II, Indianapolis Colts Did not make the playoffs Free safety (1) Kevin Byard, Tennessee Titans* Strong safety (2) Derwin James, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Tyrann Mathieu, Kansas City Chiefs We have a playoff game on Saturday, why is the Pro Bowl so important to you(and others). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 making the playoffs has nothing to do with positional player excellence. It's really geared around individual player performance regardless of injury status, and for those reasons I don't think it's broken. Where I think it's broken is how they have made a joke out of the game with all these changes. I was far more inclined to watch it when it was after the superbowl, I don't know why that was for me, but I haven't watched it one time since they changed that alignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 55 minutes ago, UKBillFan said: Carr? I mean Josh is a given, as is Burrow, but Carr? I’m saying over Jackson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 Yes, they should wait until the season is over to select the players, but I don't think it should matter if their teams make the playoffs or not. One would expect, though, that if the voting took place after the season that voters would factor team success into their thinking, especially for QBs. I think you would have a lot of worthy players getting passed up because they are on a bad team. They should also change the game itself to flag football or some other alternative format - just do something entertaining where there's little risk of injury. It's ridiculous to have a full contact game where everyone is desperately trying to avoid getting hurt. So many of the top players find any excuse not to go because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 8 hours ago, ndirish1978 said: After todays games I took a look at the Pro Bowl roster for the AFC just to check how many players selected actually made the postseason and was pretty surprised. I know a lot of people believe the Pro Bowl is meaningless popularity contest, but it does matter as far as contract incentives and when players are making their cases for the HOF, so it does frame legacy. Shouldn't something be done about Pro Bowl voting? Yes, this is an individual award, I just have an issue with the Pro Bowl being FULL of players playing for teams who essentially failed the litmus test for a successful season and didn't even earn a chance to play for a championship. Mods, please feel free to merge this to one of the other pro bowl threads if you want. I didn't think this was appropriate for the thread listing our pro bowlers so I figured a new one would be ok. 2022 AFC Pro Bowl roster by position Offense *Denotes starter 8 of 11 starters on Offense did not make the playoffs 6 of 11 starters on Defense did not make the playoffs Quarterback (3) Justin Herbert, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens Did not make the playoffs, missed 6 games Running back (3) Jonathan Taylor, Indianapolis Colts* Did not make the playoffs Nick Chubb, Cleveland Browns Did not make the playoffs Joe Mixon, Cincinnati Bengals Wide receiver (4) Tyreek Hill, Kansas City Chiefs* Ja'Marr Chase, Cincinnati Bengals* Stefon Diggs, Buffalo Bills Keenan Allen, Los Angeles Chargers Did not make the playoffs Tight end (2) Mark Andrews, Baltimore Ravens* Did not make the playoffs Travis Kelce, Kansas City Chiefs Offensive tackle (3) Rashawn Slater, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Orlando Brown, Kansas City Chiefs* Dion Dawkins, Buffalo Bills Offensive guard (3) Quenton Nelson, Indianapolis Colts* Did not make the playoffs Joel Bitonio, Cleveland Browns* Did not make the playoffs Wyatt Teller, Cleveland Browns Did not make the playoffs Center (2) Corey Linsley, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Ryan Kelly, Indianapolis Colts Did not make the playoffs Fullback (1) Patrick Ricard, Baltimore Ravens Did not make the playoffs Defense *Denotes starter Defensive end (3) Myles Garrett, Cleveland Browns* Did not make the playoffs Maxx Crosby, Las Vegas Raiders* Trey Hendrickson, Cincinnati Bengals Interior linemen (3) DeForest Buckner, Indianapolis Colts* Did not make the playoffs Chris Jones, Kansas City Chiefs* Cameron Heyward, Pittsburgh Steelers Outside linebacker (3) T.J. Watt, Pittsburgh Steelers* Joey Bosa, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Matt Judon, New England Patriots Inside/Middle linebacker (2) Darius Leonard, Indianapolis Colts* Did not make the playoffs Denzel Perryman, Las Vegas Raiders Cornerback (4) J.C. Jackson, New England Patriots* Xavien Howard, Miami Dolphins* Did not make the playoffs Denzel Ward, Cleveland Browns Did not make the playoffs Kenny Moore II, Indianapolis Colts Did not make the playoffs Free safety (1) Kevin Byard, Tennessee Titans* Strong safety (2) Derwin James, Los Angeles Chargers* Did not make the playoffs Tyrann Mathieu, Kansas City Chiefs I will play devils advocate for the players. It is a team sport and takes more than 1-2 players make a playoff team. Herbert - deserves be there. Bosa — of course deserves be there Howard — had an meh year but still atop CB. Deserves be there. fact is sometimes good players are on bad to mediocre teams. I mean during the drought does that mean no Bills players should have gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins101 Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 I think the voting should be later in the season, to give voters a better picture. For example Lamar Jackson vs. Josh Allen Not really one stat that Lamar is better than Josh Allen here. I think with Lamar's missing games to end the season, he likely wouldn't have gotten in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Watching the game yesterday I realized something about this Defense- they are not on the field enough for anyone to excel. Basically everyone does their job and it is hard to show individuals. I think of the Jets game and we got 5 picks by 5 players, so who is best? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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