Is this finally the year we make a big push for offense?

[dave mcbride]

8 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

Especially with how the league is trending towards explosive, penetrating players at those positions that can single handedly wreck an offense if they aren't taken care of.

Yep, and when your strategy for guard is moving failed tackles inside, that's doing it wrong.

[MAJBobby]

52 minutes ago, TPS said:

Interestingly, Wyatt Teller is an UFA in 2022...maybe Josh can convince him to return.

 

Personally, I think the #1 priority on the O-line should be C, not G.  There's only 1 top C available in the draft, and he'll most likely go before 20.

C and Two OGs are needed.

 

So buy the Center and 1 OG and go into the draft for the other.

[atomicpwrd]

I don't know...we have one of the top offenses and defenses in the league - it hasn't been long since we traded a first for Diggs.  I would settle for some balance.  It should not be too difficult to find an interior offensive lineman, interior defensive lineman, rb, and cb that can all contribute in this draft...then add some pieces via free agency to complete the puzzle.

 

CB in the first

IOL or IDL in the second

IOL or IDL in the third

RB in the 4th

Add some developmental talent to round out the draft...

[SCBills]

5 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

What has Jerry Hughes done this year to warrant another season?  The guy is toast.

 

He still generates pressure, but yes - I agree - he's underwhelming.   I am talking a reduced.. reduced salary.   We need a 4th pass rusher and it should probably be a vet with the 3 guys on the books being a 3rd year guy and two 2nd year guys.  I'm not opposed to looking elsewhere, but we have enough investment on this defense already... I want at least 70% of our asset allocation this offseason going to help Josh.   

 

Re-signing Levi and Harry, salary reduction for Hughes and a mid-round DT sounds about right.   Totally fine going after a mid-tier/top-tier EDGE as well, but not at the expense of the Offense.  

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, atomicpwrd said:

I don't know...we have one of the top offenses and defenses in the league - it hasn't been long since we traded a first for Diggs.  I would settle for some balance.  It should not be too difficult to find an interior offensive lineman, interior defensive lineman, rb, and cb that can all contribute in this draft...then add some pieces via free agency to complete the puzzle.

 

CB in the first

IOL or IDL in the second

IOL or IDL in the third

RB in the 4th

Add some developmental talent to round out the draft...

 

Man... no offense, but i hate everything about this post.  

 

We have balance if we priority address the Offense this offseason.  

 

1st Round DT.  Big money DT.  1st Round EDGE.  2nd Round EDGE (x2).  Paid LB.  1st Round LB.  Paid CB.  Paid Safety.  I mean, what more do we need to do... figure it out... draft a space eater behind Star, try to bring back Harry and Levi and be done with it.  

 

Meanwhile Josh is out there having to be Peyton Elway with JAG RB's, 1 or 2 lineman worth building around (assuming Dawkins ever remembers who he is) and one weapon anyone has to worry about in Diggs.  Knox, Beasley & Davis are nice pieces but not when that's all we've got.  

 

I want laser focus on the Offense from this FO in the Offseason.  No BPA that leads us down the path to another high defensive pick.  No more wasted cap space on rotational DL.... Pay the price to protect Josh.  Full stop.  

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Man... no offense, but i hate everything about this post.  

 

We have balance if we priority address the Offense this offseason.  

 

1st Round DT.  Big money DT.  1st Round EDGE.  2nd Round EDGE (x2).  Paid LB.  1st Round LB.  Paid CB.  Paid Safety.  I mean, what more do we need to do... figure it out... draft a space eater behind Star, try to bring back Harry and Levi and be done with it.  

 

Meanwhile Josh is out there having to be Peyton Elway with JAG RB's, 1 or 2 lineman worth building around (assuming Dawkins ever remembers who he is) and one weapon anyone has to worry about in Diggs.  Knox, Beasley & Davis are nice pieces but not when that's all we've got.  

 

I want laser focus on the Offense from this FO in the Offseason.  No BPA that leads us down the path to another high defensive pick.  No more wasted cap space on rotational DL.... Pay the price to protect Josh.  Full stop.  

Agree this Offseason, and I mean Offseason not just the Draft should be about two things.

 

1.  Protect your Franchise QB

2. Get weapons for your Franchise QB

 

Over 50% of the Cap is spend on the Defense......  That looks good against BU QBs only

 

That number drops slightly to 48% of the cap Next season, and thanks to Josh's Contract kicking in the Offense is up from 41% of cap to 46% of cap.

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by MAJBobby

[1ManRaid]

3 hours ago, Rigotz said:

 

 

How do we go from AFC Championship last year, to this loser mentality?

It's unbelievable. You guys expect Super Bowl every single year? 

 

Beane* and McDermott* turned us from a team that didn't make the playoffs in 20+ years to a team that makes it consistently AND wins.

Good LORD where did all these depressed, ungrateful fans come from?

 

Not to mention that without horrendous refball, we're 10-3 and first seed, or 9-4 with a win over the defending champs at worst.

[78thealltimegreat]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Man... no offense, but i hate everything about this post.  

 

We have balance if we priority address the Offense this offseason.  

 

1st Round DT.  Big money DT.  1st Round EDGE.  2nd Round EDGE (x2).  Paid LB.  1st Round LB.  Paid CB.  Paid Safety.  I mean, what more do we need to do... figure it out... draft a space eater behind Star, try to bring back Harry and Levi and be done with it.  

 

Meanwhile Josh is out there having to be Peyton Elway with JAG RB's, 1 or 2 lineman worth building around (assuming Dawkins ever remembers who he is) and one weapon anyone has to worry about in Diggs.  Knox, Beasley & Davis are nice pieces but not when that's all we've got.  

 

I want laser focus on the Offense from this FO in the Offseason.  No BPA that leads us down the path to another high defensive pick.  No more wasted cap space on rotational DL.... Pay the price to protect Josh.  Full stop.  

You know he really is the closest thing I’ve seen to the 1980s John Elway Denver broncos teams where Elway was amazing but everything around him was ok 

[finn]

3 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

nope.  Bean and McD are making us into the Marvin Lewis Bengals.  Mediocracy is now success. 

McDermott has a stud for a quarterback, but he really doesn't want one. He's frustrated by all this passing. It takes away his opportunities to punt and kick field goals so the defense can get back on the field. He wants excellence on defense and, ideally, mediocrity on offense. 

[finn]

3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:

 

It's unlikely that a 2nd and 4th round guard will transform our OL from bad to good.    If this is how we draft, I hope free agency is more productive.  

Yeah, like last year. It's not like there was a Pro Bowl-caliber center/guard available in the second round. Oh, wait. 

[MrSarcasm]

4 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

nope.  Bean and McD are making us into the Marvin Lewis Bengals.  Mediocracy is now success. 

Yeah because the Bengals always went to the playoffs and won multiple playoff games.

 

The sky is falling!

[billsfan89]

Given that the biggest issue with this team has been the offensive guard play I think it’s fairly safe to say that the front office is likely going to put resources into that position. If I am looking at this team as a fan I would say that the priority needs are as follows.

 

1- Guard 

2- DT

3- RB

4- CB (depending on if Levi is resigned if they keep Levi scratch this off the list)

5- WR (depending on if they replace Sanders or not)

6- Safety (more so a depth and get younger need here)

 

I would assume that the team is likely to keep Levi and either resign Sanders or find a solid vet at WR. So taking those needs off the list you have 2 out of your top 3 needs on offense. If this organization can’t attempt to fill those needs then they are fumbling a window to win.

[Nextmanup]

4 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

Go Buy me two OGs like Conner Williams and Brandon Schreff (I could settle with one OG Bought and the other Drafted)

 

after that Buy me a Center like Bradley Bozeman

 

From there you can do whatever you want in the draft.

...As long as you don't piss away substantial draft capital on a RB! 

 

 

[Solomon Grundy]

6 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

Given that the biggest issue with this team has been the offensive guard play I think it’s fairly safe to say that the front office is likely going to put resources into that position. If I am looking at this team as a fan I would say that the priority needs are as follows.

 

1- Guard 

2- DT

3- RB

4- CB (depending on if Levi is resigned if they keep Levi scratch this off the list)

5- WR (depending on if they replace Sanders or not)

6- Safety (more so a depth and get younger need here)

 

I would assume that the team is likely to keep Levi and either resign Sanders or find a solid vet at WR. So taking those needs off the list you have 2 out of your top 3 needs on offense. If this organization can’t attempt to fill those needs then they are fumbling a window to win.

I really think the center position is the most important on offensive line. Straight up the middle is the direct line to the QB. I want these scouts to get to work and find one that can hold the point of attack and can move people. Morse was able to leave a championship caliber team for a reason. Don’t want to spend big money on offensive line anymore. Big money should be used on QB, Edge rushers

4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

...As long as you don't piss away substantial draft capital on a RB! 

 

 

If you’re using a 1st/2nd rd pick on RB, then use the hell out of him for those 5 years and draft another one. There are/were some talented, game changing RBs that we let get away/can draft. 

[billsfan89]

3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

I really think the center position is the most important on offensive line. Straight up the middle is the direct line to the QB. I want these scouts to get to work and find one that can hold the point of attack and can move people. Morse was able to leave a championship caliber team for a reason. Don’t want to spend big money on offensive line anymore. Big money should be used on QB, Edge rushers

The Bills don’t have a ton of cap space so I think their best way to improve the team is going to be via the draft. Easy to see them spending a first round pick along the Oline. I am fine with Mitch at center it’s the guard positions that are hurting.

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

You have one of the best players in the league at QB he needs help you can’t keep using him as the Texas version of Vince Young 

Oh, I agree 💯. I’d LOVE it if we went all offense in the draft and FA.  Bring back this defense + a solid 1 tech.  That’s definitely good enough to win a title with an upgraded O.  
 

Replace Sanders with a youngster.  Some height/size would be nice for the red zone.  Dunno what’s gonna happen with Cole, but we can make due as long as we give josh some protection.  That’s my #1 priority this season, as it was last season.  They decided that the DL was the priority. It’s been improved, while our OL regressed 
 

We may not be able to retain Knox.  Adding a good all around TE to pair with Knox next year (and possibly groom to replace knox if he proves to be too expensive) and 3 new interior OL (although it’s very unlikely).  Add a rb somewhere along the lines, whether it’s FA or the draft.  We can find a good fit.  If love to give Rashad Penny a shot with a low 💴 contract.  

[whorlnut]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

Part ways with Butler and Addison.  

 

Bring back Hughes on a reduced salary, if he's willing.  

 

Re-sign Levi Wallace and Harrison Phillips.

 

Draft a 1 tech in the 4th Round. 

 

Everything else goes to Offense. 

 

Allen, Singletary, Diggs, Beasley, Davis, Stevenson, Brown, Dawkins, Knox..  Everyone else is upgradeable. 

 

I'd be inclined to keep Morse for another year if we can get two stud Guards next to him.   Darryl Williams could potentially be a trade piece.  Cut Feliciano.

I agree and disagree.

 

I agree that we need to focus on the offense. 
 

I disagree with your replaceable list. I honestly think the only players that can’t be upgraded are Allen, Diggs, and Brown. Everyone else can be replaced. 

[essential]

i don't need skill position players in the first.  josh has plenty of skill talent, he needs a mauling line.  singletary and moss are fine if there is actually a hole to run through.  however, give me Jordan Davis in the first if he somehow falls.  we've neglected the NT position for too long.  i want an immovable piece in the middle of the line.  i wanted Tyler Shelvin last year, and this year Jordan Davis is an absolute monster, but 1T tend to fall.  outside of him i don't care if they draft all oline.

[Chicken Boo]

5 hours ago, whorlnut said:

Let’s face it…McDs love affair with using high picks on defense has finally caught up with this offense. Here is what I wanna see:

1.  Sign a nasty vet guard in FA

2.  Use first round pick on a WR

3.  Use second rounder on a speedy RB

4.  Use a third rounder on another nasty guard

Is this finally the year McD sees the light and understands we have a dawg at qb and we need to give him the weapons to get the most out of his abilities?

 

Nope.   More DBs, defensive lineman and undersized linebackers.

 

Outside of Allen, what game changing offensive player has this regime drafted in 4 seasons?  I'll wait.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, dave mcbride said:

Yep, and when your strategy for guard is moving failed tackles inside, that's doing it wrong.

Exactly. For one whole year Daryl Williams looked amazing. He got paid and fell off the map. We're forced to hide him at RG and he still sucks. Boettger just doesn't have talent and that would've been Tellers spot. Morse's days are probably numbered and Brown/ Dawkins have been inconsistent.