DrDawkinstein Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: "Pedestrian" seems like a strong word for the combined play of White, Hyde, Levi, and Taron... Taron questionable as well tho. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: Good afternoon, Ed Oliver is a bust. Thank you, It's cute how everyone is reacting negatively to this -- how much time does Oliver get? 3 years? 4 years? The jury should not be out on a top-10 pick anywhere near that long. As a top-10 pick, he's clearly a bust. "Serviceable" is nowhere near good enough for a top-10 pick. Frazier said they are expecting a breakout season. So far, that's not happening. If he were a third rounder, he wouldn't be a bust, but as a top-10 pick I don't see how he could be characterized otherwise. He's supposed to be a star and an impact player, but he's clearly not. 3 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: It's cute how everyone is reacting negatively to this -- how much time does Oliver get? 3 years? 4 years? The jury should not be out on a top-10 pick anywhere near that long. As a top-10 pick, he's clearly a bust. "Serviceable" is nowhere near good enough for a top-10 pick. Frazier said they are expecting a breakout season. So far, that's not happening. If he were a third rounder, he wouldn't be a bust, but as a top-10 pick I don't see how he could be characterized otherwise. He's supposed to be a star and an impact player, but he's clearly not. When nobody responds but you NEED them to....quote yourself! 29 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 43 minutes ago, Muppy said: next man UP! Our roster is deep Im not too concerned about the texans and lets see what happens Go Bills!! m It's deep in some areas sure. imo the CB position is a little concerning , for me anyways. (knock on wood...don't believe in jinx's) if Tre goes down, or 2 CBs go down in same game like other week (which thankfully wasn't anything major), it wouldn't be good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: I get it I guess, especially Feliciano with the concussion. Just hope we arent overlooking the Texans... Also, likely we still win, but now won't cover that -17.5 points. This team doesnt overlook anyone. Why do people keep saying this stuff. It should be clear by now that these guys at least stay focused on the week ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: When nobody responds but you NEED them to....quote yourself! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: It's cute how everyone is reacting negatively to this -- how much time does Oliver get? 3 years? 4 years? The jury should not be out on a top-10 pick anywhere near that long. As a top-10 pick, he's clearly a bust. "Serviceable" is nowhere near good enough for a top-10 pick. Frazier said they are expecting a breakout season. So far, that's not happening. If he were a third rounder, he wouldn't be a bust, but as a top-10 pick I don't see how he could be characterized otherwise. He's supposed to be a star and an impact player, but he's clearly not. I can give you he hasn't been as good as expected. Has been pointed out by quite a few times before that his better games was with Star in the line up. However I agree that a little more is expected as a early 1sr rd pick. imo I'm not ready to give him a bust label yet, I'm looking to see how he does with Star back and see if he does indeed have a break out season that was spoke about 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: It's cute how everyone is reacting negatively to this -- how much time does Oliver get? 3 years? 4 years? The jury should not be out on a top-10 pick anywhere near that long. As a top-10 pick, he's clearly a bust. "Serviceable" is nowhere near good enough for a top-10 pick. Frazier said they are expecting a breakout season. So far, that's not happening. If he were a third rounder, he wouldn't be a bust, but as a top-10 pick I don't see how he could be characterized otherwise. He's supposed to be a star and an impact player, but he's clearly not. There are other TBD whipping boys at the moment-- Edmunds, Ford, e.g. Ed's going to have to get in line. EDIT: Agree, though. Ed Oliver's good will is getting pretty close to its expiration date. Edited October 1, 2021 by Rocky Landing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Logic said: I know hindsight is 20/20, but it's really irritating to know that we could very easily NOT have a guard problem right now. Wyatt Teller was drafted by us. There's one guard position solved. The draft pick used on Cody Ford, meanwhile, could have been used on Elgton Jenkins, who has already made a Pro Bowl and is one of the better interior o-linemen in the league. He was drafted seven spots after Ford. Dalton Risner was another option. He was taken four spots after Ford. Both, to this point in their careers, are vastly superior to Ford. Nobody hits on 100% of their draft picks or personnel decisions, and everyone makes mistakes, but the poor guard play in Buffalo is GLARING right now when taking into account who we had and could've had on our roster. Coulda woulda shoulda dep't is closed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 52-10. I think Buffalo scores early often and in all three phases of the game. Some want to point to 2018 Bills vs Vikings. The vast Majority of teams with wide spreads win and cover. Allen is too talented. The wrs are too talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 40 minutes ago, Process said: Lmao. As long as the weather isn't too bad, this game will be a bloodbath. Im actually a little embarrassed of how little i know about this texans team. Significant losses there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddyjj Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 41 minutes ago, Steel City Mafia said: Cunningham was the dude who blew up Josh on a designed run in OT when Morse and Knox both chose to not hit next different color uni you see! https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/06/uncalled-hit-on-josh-allen-could-have-set-up-a-game-winning-field-goal-for-bills/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: Poyer was injured by Edmunds tackling HIM instead of the ballcarrier fyi. Geez. So let me guess people are mad because Tremaine is tackling everyone now. ISN'T THIS WHAT YOU PEOPLE WANTED?!?!! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: Im actually a little embarrassed of how little i know about this texans team. Significant losses there? Well there best DLineman is now a Cardinal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) As with the constant chatter of self appointed experts regarding the value of Tremaine Edmunds, thankfully the Bills will not rely on fan opinions to determine the value of Ed Oliver or any other players with respect to their past, present, and future contributions to the team. I can guarantee you that the Bills definition of "bust" will be completely different than average Joe Fan around here. I suspect they think they are getting pretty good production out of Ed Oliver, because, well, they are. No, he is not Aaron Donald and never will be. That does not make him a bust, nor does anyone's random definition of what a top ten pick should be. 15 minutes ago, freddyjj said: Coulda woulda shoulda dep't is closed. Correct. The absolutely most useless type of analysis is hindsight analysis. Literally anyone can pick the right answer after the question has already been answered. Edited October 1, 2021 by FLFan 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Logic said: I know hindsight is 20/20, but it's really irritating to know that we could very easily NOT have a guard problem right now. Wyatt Teller was drafted by us. There's one guard position solved. The draft pick used on Cody Ford, meanwhile, could have been used on Elgton Jenkins, who has already made a Pro Bowl and is one of the better interior o-linemen in the league. He was drafted seven spots after Ford. Dalton Risner was another option. He was taken four spots after Ford. Both, to this point in their careers, are vastly superior to Ford. Nobody hits on 100% of their draft picks or personnel decisions, and everyone makes mistakes, but the poor guard play in Buffalo is GLARING right now when taking into account who we had and could've had on our roster. In the meantime, if Bills didn't draft Leif Larsen and drafted the QB picked 5 picks later ....... Edited October 1, 2021 by syhuang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenosha2Buffalo Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 52 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: It's cute how everyone is reacting negatively to this -- how much time does Oliver get? 3 years? 4 years? The jury should not be out on a top-10 pick anywhere near that long. As a top-10 pick, he's clearly a bust. "Serviceable" is nowhere near good enough for a top-10 pick. Frazier said they are expecting a breakout season. So far, that's not happening. If he were a third rounder, he wouldn't be a bust, but as a top-10 pick I don't see how he could be characterized otherwise. He's supposed to be a star and an impact player, but he's clearly not. Quote yourself to make yourself seem even dumber to us. Thanks 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Logic Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, syhuang said: In the meantime, if Bills didn't draft Leif Larsen and drafted the QB picked 5 picks later ....... I think there's a lot of miles between "We should have drafted Tom Brady 21 years ago!" and "we shouldn't have traded away the guard that we drafted that immediately went on to become a Pro Bowler". When your guard play stinks, and you're a season and a half removed from trading away a guard that is now top five at his position, I think it's a reasonable thing to discuss. Edited October 1, 2021 by Logic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syhuang Posted October 1, 2021 Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Logic said: I think there's a lot of miles between "We should have drafted Tom Brady 21 years ago!" and "we shouldn't have traded away the guard that we drafted that immediately went on to become a Pro Bowler". When your guard play stinks, and you're a season and a half removed from trading away a guard that is now top five at his position, I think it's a reasonable thing to discuss. Image how many super bowls we would have already won with Brady in these 21 years. If we’re playing “what if” game, I definitely want Brady for last 21 years over any one else recently. Edited October 1, 2021 by syhuang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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