GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 1 minute ago, BADOLBILZ said: I like Sean Payton as a HC..........but people forget that he is very capable of fielding 7-9 teams. And that was WITH Drew Brees. Winston has talent but he couldn't get a very talented Bucs team to the playoffs despite throwing for 5,000 yard with a very talented group of skill players. It was with record setting bad defenses though. I think it was the worst 3 year stretch of defense from one franchise in history. I don't the Saints are playoff team this year but I also don't think they will be a hot mess. They have too many good players and the NFC is meh. Can Winston avoid the big errors? That is the question. I think it becomes harder without their 1 top end receiver. I think there is still a good season or two in Winston somewhere. He won't do it consistently he isn't dedicated enough but I think he could have a season or two of lightening in a bottle because I don't think his downfall is talent it is application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Motorin' Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 10:23 AM, Jobot said: We've got a slot receiver available... Bease for Kamara straight up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 He's been on my s*** list ever since he left the Buffalo Philharmonic for NYC. 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 7:07 PM, YoloinOhio said: So the Saints ignored/ forgot about a $40million asset for 6 months.. If true, the Saints head office might be even dumber than Michael Thomas... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NoSaint Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 9:06 AM, Jobot said: So the Saints ignored/ forgot about a $40million asset for 6 months.. If true, the Saints head office might be even dumber than Michael Thomas... think they forgot him or… do you think the guy that’s acted incredibly erratic since his big contract might’ve checked out on taking calls and the team can’t force much on him during the offseason? I’ll say, the other two are a bit old but I can’t think of many extensions for huge dollars that have gone worse, quicker, than the Saints trio of graham, gallette, and now Thomas. All three were huge deals and two were gone within a year and Thomas has been a non stop major in house issue where I think they would love to walk away from him if they could. it’s so rare to give guys monster deals and inside of a year be so far off the rails. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 9, 2021 Author Share Posted August 9, 2021 I love a good cryptic tweet azaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 If I am the Saints I am trading him. You have no QB and its only going to get worse with this guy. See if you can get a first and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 57 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I love a good cryptic tweet azaa Is that comic sans? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 12 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: If I am the Saints I am trading him. You have no QB and its only going to get worse with this guy. See if you can get a first and move on. Only $32m in dead money to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I love a good cryptic tweet azaa Big rumours of a Jax - Saints deal involving Henderson and Thomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Big rumours of a Jax - Saints deal involving Henderson and Thomas. strongly suspect it just isn’t happening this year. Even if Jax makes a ton of sense- moving an injured player with a ton of dead cap is a struggle for both sides. in 22 it becomes a little more feasible but hard to slot in a player name on the other side a full season out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Just now, NoSaint said: strongly suspect it just isn’t happening this year. Even if Jax makes a ton of sense- moving an injured player with a ton of dead cap is a struggle for both sides. in 22 it becomes a little more feasible but hard to slot in a player name on the other side a full season out Normally I'd agree, but I have long suspected New Orleans are fully prepared for an "eat it" year in 2021. Not saying a trade will happen but I don't think it is as unfathomable as the initial cap number might make you think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 13 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: Is that comic sans? No, it's comical though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 (edited) 42 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Normally I'd agree, but I have long suspected New Orleans are fully prepared for an "eat it" year in 2021. Not saying a trade will happen but I don't think it is as unfathomable as the initial cap number might make you think. Most of the dead money of a trade today would hit next year though. And I don’t think that’s an exciting prospect for them. if they do it next off season after June 1 it becomes at least somewhat manageable to absorb without tanking Edited August 10, 2021 by NoSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 7/26/2021 at 10:06 AM, Jobot said: So the Saints ignored/ forgot about a $40million asset for 6 months.. If true, the Saints head office might be even dumber than Michael Thomas... The guys on NFL radio were talking about this earlier today. The Saints didn’t forget. It sounds like Thomas went Radio Silence on them. Would not return calls nor show up to camps. They made it sound like there was a disagreement and Thomas didn’t follow up because he didn’t want the surgery. He was going the wait it out route and therefore rather than admit several months ago it was not getting better - he waited as long as possible. He felt the Saints released the news to make him look bad and apparently it worked because the fans are riding him hard for delaying the surgery and now costing the team time in the season. Sounds to me like 2 parties getting ready for a bitter divorce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 7/24/2021 at 7:09 PM, Motorin' said: Bease for Kamara straight up? I was thinking Beasley for Michael Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 9 hours ago, NoSaint said: Only $32m in dead money to do it Dang.....I didnt check spotrac or otc before I posted. Yeah, thats insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 4:59 PM, BADOLBILZ said: If the Saints aren't just a bad football team this season then Sean Payton deserves a lot of credit. That last tweet about the sleepers the Saints are "very high" on reminds me of the talk around the Bills during the tear down under Donahoe: "Yes, the Bills lost Ted Washington......but they are "very high" on young DT Leif Larson......they think he was a steal in the 6th round of that draft and a better fit in Gregg Williams system." “Very high on” is the coachspeak equivalent of “we are praying he doesn’t suck.” By the way, has Lief Larson managed to bend at the waist yet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MiltonWaddams Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 For the first few years he was in the league, I thought he was a good guy and he seem to be just a quiet, kind of go-about-you-business type. Then, his inner diva started to come out. I don’t wish the guy any ill will, but I’m not sure I can trust him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: For the first few years he was in the league, I thought he was a good guy and he seem to be just a quiet, kind of go-about-you-business type. Then, his inner diva started to come out. I don’t wish the guy any ill will, but I’m not sure I can trust him. You definitely can’t trust him. The team that paid him way more money than he’s worth doesn’t trust him. Taking on 22M in dead cap to cut him is a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 He’s pretty dominant when healthy. If he was available for a reasonable pick via trade in the off-season… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 33 minutes ago, NewEra said: You definitely can’t trust him. The team that paid him way more money than he’s worth doesn’t trust him. Taking on 22M in dead cap to cut him is a no brainer. 2018 and 2019 on-field Michael Thomas was elite. There is no question of that. I understand why they paid him big $. Since then he has been a malcontent and seemingly wants out of NO, an organization with a pretty strong player-friendly reputation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: 2018 and 2019 on-field Michael Thomas was elite. There is no question of that. I understand why they paid him big $. Since then he has been a malcontent and seemingly wants out of NO, an organization with a pretty strong player-friendly reputation. Yeah, his play was elite. I wonder how much he would’ve earned if he had Tyrod as his QB during his first few years. He can thank Drew Brees for the $ and thank his himself for imploding mentally and ensuring he would only receive the guaranteed portion of the contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, NewEra said: Yeah, his play was elite. I wonder how much he would’ve earned if he had Tyrod as his QB during his first few years. He can thank Drew Brees for the $ and thank his himself for imploding mentally and ensuring he would only receive the guaranteed portion of the contract I’m not here to create a lengthy argument about this, but his catch radius is immense. He has great hands and can do a lot with his feet. Josh would love to have a guy like him at his peak on this team. Brees did him a lot of favours because he was his favourite target, but Michael Thomas is no slouch Edited November 3, 2021 by MiltonWaddams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 39 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said: I’m not here to create a link the argument about this, but his catch radius is immense. He has great hands and can do a lot with his feet. Josh would love to have a guy like him at his peak on this team. Brees did him a lot of favours because he was his favourite target, but Michael Thomas is no slouch Michael Thomas was no slouch. He was great. We have no idea what Michael Thomas is right now. Mentally, he’s had episodes. He mismanaged his injury. The team wanted surgery and he refused iirc. Turns out, he needed the surgery. He didn’t look like the same player last season. Maybe it was due to injury. If he’s all good mentally and physically, he’d be the perfect fit for this team. Elite WR. His recent behavior scares me and has me thinking that we’ll be seeing more negativity from him in the future. He might be best going to a loaded SB team and just fitting in, a la AB. Just one guys opinion while I don’t believe that he’s worth his current contract, I do believe that he can be a very good player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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