Could CRT bring about a race war?

[Wacka]

3 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

On a somewhat related note, last month Germany offered to pay 1.2 billion in reparations to Namibia for genocide during German colonia rule. 

 

How about TRILLIONS in reparations for the Europeans (of various  religions, races and nationalities) that they wiped out during WWII.

[Motorin']

34 minutes ago, Wacka said:

How about TRILLIONS in reparations for the Europeans (of various  religions, races and nationalities) that they wiped out during WWII.

 

Ever been to Israel? There's a reason cabbies pick you up at the airport in mercedes-benz. Germans are still paying reparations for the Holocaust. 

Edited July 15, 2021 by Motorin'

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Beans or no beans?

No brainer. Beans. 

[SoCal Deek]

46 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

No brainer. Beans. 

Excellent 

We’ll get together for a bowl next time I’m in Palm Springs! 👍

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

Some pretty radical language about this thing that some people oppose their children being indoctrinated in that allegedly isn’t happening from someone in a position to know… 

[Westside]

15 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

 

At what point did (or do) the black citizens of this country start to build their generational wealth?  What's stopping them now?

RACISM MAN!!!!!!

[Chef Jim]

11 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Excellent 

We’ll get together for a bowl next time I’m in Palm Springs! 👍

 

Make it in during the winter.  Chile doesn't really work at 120

 

Funny we were at our place over the Fourth. The pool was 98 degrees!!  We were there in the spring and our neighbor put in a pool.  He added a chiller. I rolled my eyes.  Yeah whatever Mr Moneybags.  Well now I'm thinking of getting one.  

[Governor]

[Westside]

25 minutes ago, Governor said:

Isn’t slavery just an extreme form of socialism?

[B-Man]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SCBills]

2 hours ago, Governor said:

I don’t think we should be teaching children that the most important character trait they own is their skin color.  
 

oH sO sLaVeRy NeVeR hApPeNeD?

[Motorin']

2 hours ago, Bidens_basement said:

Isn’t slavery just an extreme form of socialism?

 

Fixed: Slavery is an extreme form of capitalism. 

 

 

17 minutes ago, SCBills said:

I don’t think we should be teaching children that the most important character trait they own is their skin color.  
 

oH sO sLaVeRy NeVeR hApPeNeD?

 

We need to address the effects historical and current discrimination.

 

i dON"T tHINK wE sHOULD bE tEACHING cHILDREN tHAT tEH mOST iMPORTANT cHARACTER tRAIT tHEY oWN iS tHEIR sKIN cOLOR!

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

3 hours ago, Bidens_basement said:

Isn’t slavery just an extreme form of socialism?

 

42 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Fixed: Slavery is an extreme form of capitalism. 

slavery is an extreme of both, the difference is in one case wealthy corporate elite are the owners and in the other case the wealthy political elite are the owners. 
 

[Tiberius]

Donald Trump lying about CRT. Virginia does not teach it. That's all these sh it eaters do is lie 

3 hours ago, Bidens_basement said:

Isn’t slavery just an extreme form of socialism?

No, American slavery was just the end result of racism. Just like the Holocaust was 

[Westside]

14 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Donald Trump lying about CRT. Virginia does not teach it. That's all these sh it eaters do is lie 

No, American slavery was just the end result of racism. Just like the Holocaust was 

Is it still considered racist if a black slave owner buys slaves from a black slave trader?

[Tiberius]

3 minutes ago, Bidens_basement said:

Is it still considered racist if a black slave owner buys slaves from a black slave trader?

Yup, exceptions to the rule did nothing the rule itself. It was race based slavery. 

 

Those white gentlemen who raped their slaves and just let their own half white children be slaves also does not let you claim slavery was not racist. 

[B-Man]

 

Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in America 

 

The charges of white privilege and systemic racism that are tearing the country apart float free of reality.

 

Two known facts, long since documented beyond reasonable doubt, need to be brought into the open and incorporated into the way we think about public policy:

 

American whites, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians have different violent crime rates and different means and distributions of cognitive ability. The allegations of racism in policing, college admissions, segregation in housing, and hiring and promotions in the workplace ignore the ways in which the problems that prompt the allegations of systemic racism are driven by these two realities.

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1641771976/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1641771976&linkCode=as2&tag=helentag-20&linkId=6ed38d80e6eb061c7e49a9124d39d4fc

 

 

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

Fixed: Slavery is an extreme form of capitalism. 

 

 

 

We need to address the effects historical and current discrimination.

 

i dON"T tHINK wE sHOULD bE tEACHING cHILDREN tHAT tEH mOST iMPORTANT cHARACTER tRAIT tHEY oWN iS tHEIR sKIN cOLOR!

 

This guy a hero. 

 

[Motorin']

51 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

Facing Reality: Two Truths about Race in America 

 

The charges of white privilege and systemic racism that are tearing the country apart float free of reality.

 

Two known facts, long since documented beyond reasonable doubt, need to be brought into the open and incorporated into the way we think about public policy:

 

American whites, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians have different violent crime rates and different means and distributions of cognitive ability. The allegations of racism in policing, college admissions, segregation in housing, and hiring and promotions in the workplace ignore the ways in which the problems that prompt the allegations of systemic racism are driven by these two realities.

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1641771976/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=1641771976&linkCode=as2&tag=helentag-20&linkId=6ed38d80e6eb061c7e49a9124d39d4fc

 

 

 

Ever since reading The Bell Curve I wanted to ask Charles Murray a hypothetical: If white people had been stolen away from European by the millions and held captive in slavery in Asia for hundreds of years, and during that period it was illegal for them to learn to read the native language, how would that population would fair on IQ tests and in schools in the Asian language once it was legal for them to learn to read to attend school?

 

And if the white population performed at a significantly poorer rate than their Asian counterparts, would that prove that Asians are inherently smarter than white people? 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 16, 2021 by Motorin'

[SoCal Deek]

22 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Ever since reading The Bell Curve I wanted to ask Charles Murray a hypothetical: If white people had been stolen away from European by the millions and held captive in slavery in Asia for hundreds of years, and during that period it was illegal for them to learn to read the native language, how would that population would fair on IQ tests and in schools in the Asian language once it was legal for them to learn to read to attend school?

 

And if the white population performed at a significantly poorer rate than their Asian counterparts, would that prove that Asians are inherently smarter than white people? 

 

 

 

 

 

My grandparents couldn’t read or write. Their son, my uncle, became an Oxford scholar. Is it your position that intelligence is somehow passed on to your offspring? Could it more accurately tied to a respect for education and dedicated work ethic?

[Buffarukus]

37 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Ever since reading The Bell Curve I wanted to ask Charles Murray a hypothetical: If white people had been stolen away from European by the millions and held captive in slavery in Asia for hundreds of years, and during that period it was illegal for them to learn to read the native language, how would that population would fair on IQ tests and in schools in the Asian language once it was legal for them to learn to read to attend school?

 

And if the white population performed at a significantly poorer rate than their Asian counterparts, would that prove that Asians are inherently smarter than white people? 

 

 

 

 

 

to further look at your claim we again look at immigrants. not only not knowing how to read or write, english!...outside any classes they have taken. also having to learn american customs (reading from left to right ect ect) while navigating a brand new, never before seen landscape away from everyone and thing they have ever known... i think that at the least is equal playing field to your assertion of past racism effects yet somehow not only doing well in school, but being successful in american society. all colors and nationalities regardless of background. 

 

at some point you have to relook at your ideas and say maybe there are more factors then what you think. my guess is that you don't want to because it would bring you to a conclusion you do not want to investigate.

[Motorin']

23 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

to further look at your claim we again look at immigrants. not only not knowing how to read or write, english!...outside any classes they have taken. also having to learn american customs (reading from left to right ect ect) while navigating a brand new, never before seen landscape away from everyone and thing they have ever known... i think that at the least is equal playing field to your assertion of past racism effects yet somehow not only doing well in school, but being successful in american society. all colors and nationalities regardless of background. 

 

at some point you have to relook at your ideas and say maybe there are more factors then what you think. my guess is that you don't want to because it would bring you to a conclusion you do not want to investigate.

 

The same could be said of so many white people who expend tremendous energy to fight for the idea that racism has no effect in America, and America owes no one anything to make amends for the harms of racism.

 

 

 

 

[SCBills]

Just now, Motorin' said:

 

The same could be said of so many white people who expend tremendous energy to fight for the idea that racism has no effect in America, and America owes no one anything to make amends for the harms of racism.

 

 

 

 

Which is interesting considering so many black and asian parents seem to show up in these viral meetings standing against CRT. 
 

Are they simply “white adjacent”?

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, SCBills said:

Which is interesting considering so many black and asian parents seem to show up in these viral meetings standing against CRT. 
 

Are they simply “white adjacent”?

 

I'm not surprised there are black and Asian people that have bought into the propaganda that communists are trying to drain the purity and essence of their children. But it's not the CRT, it's the fluride in the water! 

[Buffarukus]

28 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

The same could be said of so many white people who expend tremendous energy to fight for the idea that racism has no effect in America, and America owes no one anything to make amends for the harms of racism.

 

 

 

 

 

havent seen that at all. there are plenty of programs that have been instituted. afimitive action. special loans and grants. your stereotyping what the discussion is about.

[Motorin']

1 minute ago, Buffarukus said:

 

havent seen that at all. there are plenty of programs that have been instituted. afimitive action. special loans and grants. your stereotyping what the discussion is about.

 

I'd love to see the specifics of the afirmative action and special loans you speak of. Show me the numbers. 

[Buffarukus]

14 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

I'd love to see the specifics of the afirmative action and special loans you speak of. Show me the numbers. 

 

numbers? no i dont do research papers on here anymore. it routinley showed to be a waste of time. so instead.

 

did you watch television this year? did you see how many black police chiefs mayors were african american? did you go to college, check how many loans and grants are specifically designated to underprivlaged minorities? do you work? doesn't your place have a diversity quota implemented for affirmative  action?

 

i say you can just look around you but don't know where you live or background. i need to look no further then my boss who just told me to get off my phone and get back to work 😡

Edited July 16, 2021 by Buffarukus

[SoCal Deek]

46 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

The same could be said of so many white people who expend tremendous energy to fight for the idea that racism has no effect in America, and America owes no one anything to make amends for the harms of racism.

 

 

 

 

Make amends? There it is again…..it’s about money. Please name your number.

[Motorin']

5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Make amends? There it is again…..it’s about money. Please name your number.

 

It's a Constitutional issue embedded in the 1st Amendment. And may be the most important aspect of the 1st Amendment. Without which the rest of the Bill of Rights would be rendered meaningless. 

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

It's a Constitutional issue embedded in the 1st Amendment. And may be the most important aspect of the 1st Amendment. Without which the rest of the Bill of Rights would be rendered meaningless. 

Once again….let’s start the negotiations. Please state your number so we can move this discussion along. Please!

[Motorin']

24 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Once again….let’s start the negotiations. Please state your number so we can move this discussion along. Please!

 

Oh you poor thing. It must be very hard on you not to be able to wash your hands of it exactly how and when you want.

[Tenhigh]

2 hours ago, Motorin' said:

 

Ever since reading The Bell Curve I wanted to ask Charles Murray a hypothetical: If white people had been stolen away from European by the millions and held captive in slavery in Asia for hundreds of years, and during that period it was illegal for them to learn to read the native language, how would that population would fair on IQ tests and in schools in the Asian language once it was legal for them to learn to read to attend school?

 

And if the white population performed at a significantly poorer rate than their Asian counterparts, would that prove that Asians are inherently smarter than white people? 

 

 

 

 

 

This is an interesting take. Have the enslaved Europeans been freed for 150 years?

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

Oh you poor thing. It must be very hard on you not to be able to wash your hands of it exactly how and when you want.

Still waiting for your dollar figure. Is it a one time payment or installments? By the way, I’m far from poor and my ancestors had nothing to do with the whole thing. So may I be excused? 

[Motorin']

2 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

This is an interesting take. Have the enslaved Europeans been freed for 150 years?

 

Yes, they've been freed for 150 years, though had to fight for over another 100 years for equal treatment... On average, the white people in Asia's IQ scores and test scores in Mandarin are significantly lower than their Asian counterparts. 

 

Does this prove that white people in Asia are inherently less intelligent than their Asian counterparts? 

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Still waiting for your dollar figure. Is it a one time payment or installments? By the way, I’m far from poor and my ancestors had nothing to do with the whole thing. So may I be excused? 

Feel free to go back to Europe if you do not want to be part of a United America.

[SoCal Deek]

5 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

 

Feel free to go back to Europe if you do not want to be part of a United America.

If I go who are you going to con into giving you your unearned ‘amends’ ? 
 

Still waiting for your dollar figure. I may have it in my sofa cushions. 

[Motorin']

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

If I go who are you going to con into giving you your unearned ‘amends’ ? 
 

Still waiting for your dollar figure. I may have it in my sofa cushions. 

 

You think I want the amends made to ME? 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

12 minutes ago, Motorin' said:

 

You think I want the amends made to ME? 

 

 

I have idea who you want it to go to. JUST NAME YOUR FIGURE!!!!

[Motorin']

6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

I have idea who you want it to go to. JUST NAME YOUR FIGURE!!!!

 

That's not how amends work. You and I don't get to decide what is owed. 

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, Motorin' said:

 

That's not how amends work. You and I don't get to decide what is owed. 

We’re having trouble communicating here. You mean you can’t even discuss it? Really? Why is it a national security matter? You threw the topic on the table….and now…..nothing. Sheeesh

[Tenhigh]

1 hour ago, Motorin' said:

 

Yes, they've been freed for 150 years, though had to fight for over another 100 years for equal treatment... On average, the white people in Asia's IQ scores and test scores in Mandarin are significantly lower than their Asian counterparts. 

 

Does this prove that white people in Asia are inherently less intelligent than their Asian counterparts? 

What does it prove to you?

And is Mandarin the only language that the Europeans speak now?

And do these Europeans value and stress education in their culture?  Two parent households?