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14 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

First off, we don’t have a free press…they are owned by billion dollar corporations or individuals, who collude with the State to get away with criminal activity…

 

So then, the old right wing criticism of the "liberal media" is now gone, correct? It's now trendy to call it "corporate media" or whatever. So you are saying that individual reporters are beholden to corporations, who are themselves told what to do by the government? And crimes? You are kind of vague there 

14 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

 

 

The only thing resembling anything close to a free press are simple individuals, who work on their own behalf, to investigate news worthy events taking place in our country and around the world…They aren’t bought and paid for by Big Pharma, the FBI, Or the CIA…And they certainly aren’t bound by cult like ideologies that demand they be an activist for the cult before being an honest journalist…

 

This sounds pretty silly. Again, the government controls our media? I said you were echoing Putin and Kim's criticism of our media. You are. 

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The media does not report any more, they lecture.            

All_Pro_Bills
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You must think yourself clever by believing that by simply invoking Putin you're entitled to shut down any sensible or intelligent debate no matter the topic.  No matter how comical that answer might

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Try that again proper English.

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15 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

 

Second, what I acknowledge is that just like not everything our government says is true, not everything other nations/leaders say about our country is false…Just because Putin, Osama Bin Laden, or Trump say something, doesn’t mean it is necessarily wrong, just because you were told not to like these people…The world doesn’t work in that cookie cutter way…And you are likely missing out on some very important information you could learn from…👍

 

No, the vast majority of drivel that comes out of the mouths of Putin, Trump and the rest is total garbage, but I think its great (not really) you agree with Putin and Trump. 

15 hours ago, JaCrispy said:

 

And just for kicks, Elon Musk just confirmed that everything that our government and msm claimed was conspiracy theory (regarding social media), the last 6 years,  turned out to be true- and even more so! And he’s demonstrating it with every internal release he makes…👍

 

But I know, you’re  gonna believe whatever you want- just like some boys think that they are girls…normal people just roll their eyes and keep it moving…so no worries here…😉

He did? Well now isn't that great! I'm sure he just proved everything and some D-bag you follow on twitter probably promises that that is true. Oh gosh, how wonderful Elon is around to tell us the world is corrupt and he is sane

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18 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

What’s amazing to me is that some people think this type of logical, reasoned and fact-based analysis represents a defense of Putin and/or some version of extremist ideology.  There are countless examples of the government/media skewing the narrative about what is/isn’t true, including for many, the “WMDs in Iraq” saga.  HB laptop is another example. 
 

What makes it comical is the exact same people who are perpetually distrustful of the Trump/Rep admin, and who would cite the lunacy of Fox News, NY Post and other outlets lack any sort of pocket presence when it comes to offerings by outlets like WaPo and NYT.  

The point is that the same people rolling their eyes about a thread entitled “The American Media Should Not Be Trusted” would sign on immediately to “The American Media Should Not Be Trusted” if you simply focus on a different outlet.  
 

Spot on post, Ja. 

 

Fact based analysis? LOL, oh come on. 

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8 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

judging by the tweets they share, its mostly PACS and Corporate funded sites.

Is that true? Sounds made up 

12 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

What American politicians and media figures do you trust? 

I like Jennifer Rubin in the media and a politician I trust would be well anyone that is telling the truth that can be verified. 

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1 hour ago, Tiberius said:

Is that true? Sounds made up 

I like Jennifer Rubin in the media and a politician I trust would be well anyone that is telling the truth that can be verified. 

Good lord you make an excellent sheep for the left. Keep believing there nonsense. Lol

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Just now, Tiberius said:

Wake up ***** licker, it's not "left" anymore, you are suppose to call us corporate/globalist/ unis now. 

 

Moron 

I’ll just call you what you are. Which is a deceitful idiot. Keep up the good work, chairman Xi biden will be very happy with you.

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5 hours ago, Tiberius said:

So then, the old right wing criticism of the "liberal media" is now gone, correct? It's now trendy to call it "corporate media" or whatever. So you are saying that individual reporters are beholden to corporations, who are themselves told what to do by the government? And crimes? You are kind of vague there 

This sounds pretty silly. Again, the government controls our media? I said you were echoing Putin and Kim's criticism of our media. You are. 

Look at how many FBI and CIA contributors there are to MSNBC, CNN, and FOX News…just like at Twitter, they are there to steer the narrative- create a reality for the American people to consume…They are the #1 source for disinformation and propaganda, bar none…Their job is to be paid propagandists- just like when they go into other countries to help topple governments…No different here…👍

 

So, yes- the government controls the mainstream media through coercion, and suppression of information…Anyone who dare tries to speak the truth, the government then ostracizes and ridicules via their surrogates in the mainstream press…Btw, this is also how other authoritarian regimes operate…

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1 hour ago, JaCrispy said:

Look at how many FBI and CIA contributors there are to MSNBC, CNN, and FOX News…just like at Twitter, they are there to steer the narrative- create a reality for the American people to consume…They are the #1 source for disinformation and propaganda, bar none…Their job is to be paid propagandists- just like when they go into other countries to help topple governments…No different here…👍

 

So, yes- the government controls the mainstream media through coercion, and suppression of information…Anyone who dare tries to speak the truth, the government then ostracizes and ridicules via their surrogates in the mainstream press…Btw, this is also how other authoritarian regimes operate…

Everyone should understand its always been this way.  But before the internet and social media the communications process was strictly hierarchical.  Top down news media from ownership, editors, reporters, researchers, and so on down to the audience and consumer.  It was easier to control narratives and transmit propaganda as required.  But with the internet came peer to peer and peer to multiple peers communications, And not just one way but two way.  Everybody found out everybody else was thinking the same thing they were, that the official narrative at time had lots of holes and gaps in the story.  Dangerous discussions to power.  So while it took a while the government message keepers figured it out.  And here we are with lots of censors and blockers distributed in a manner consistent with the distributed information web with a central purpose in a de-centralized media environment.  But too many points of contact leave lots of potential for exposure which is what is being revealed by the Twitter files.

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On 12/29/2022 at 2:43 PM, BillsFanNC said:

Lol. Jennifer Rubin???

 

:lol: :lol::lol:

 

 

Isn't Bill O'Reilly a scumbag? Why was that POS fired again? 

 

Oh ya, he extorted women for sex. Couldn't get a date I guess. 

 

This is the example held up by the anti-free press, a serial sex predator that makes monkey arguments for the uninformed to lick up 

 

 

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https://townhall.com/columnists/bradslager/2022/12/27/some-of-the-more-riffable-headlines-from-the-past-year-part-one-n2617609

 

This is only the first half of the list but these should be embarrassing, especially the one about McDaniels. The issue for so many of these is that it could have been figured out with just a minimal amount of real research. 

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20 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

The GOP nominee will be portrayed as "worse than Trump" 24/7.  Even if it's Trump himself....he will be the super nazi, racist Trump.

 

They're already starting with the "why DeSantis could be worse than Trump."  Clowns.  But very telling.

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On 1/1/2023 at 12:04 PM, B-Man said:

 

 

The American Media Should Not Be Trusted

 

 

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This has become the Left’s M.O.

 

Their strategy is that it no longer  matters if something is true or not anymore, as long as it furthers their agenda…

 

Its basically like trying to defend against the Japanese Kamikaze during WW2…Before, being called out for lying was a deterrent against dishonesty…Now, the cultural morality has declined so much, people simply don’t care (Like George Costanza says, “It’s not a lie if you believe it”- just like the Trans issue).  It makes it very difficult in warfare when the enemy does not abide by the rules of engagement…

 

This is why things like the Twitter Files are so important…The more info that is released, exposing the Left, the Dems and the Deep State, the less likely that people will believe their propaganda in the future…👍

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3 minutes ago, JaCrispy said:

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This has become the Left’s M.O.

 

Their strategy is that it no longer  matters if something is true or not anymore, as long as it furthers their agenda…

 

Its basically like trying to defend against the Japanese Kamikaze during WW2…It makes it very difficult in warfare when the enemy does not abide by the rules of engagement…

 

This is why things like the Twitter Files are so important…The more info that is released, exposing the Dems and the Deep State, the less likely that people will believe their propaganda in the future…👍

A better warfare analogy would be that the Republicans are still lining up in the an open field with neat rows all shooting their muskets at the count of three while the Democrats hide and fire from inside the forest using the cover of trees, only to run away to regroup once their positions are discovered. 

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