Tiberius Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Hollywood is run for a profit, they are all conservative mouthpieces too? 😂 Rush Limbo profited off Conservatives, that makes him a liberal...or something 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 9 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Tibs, with all due respect, what your example shows is just how inaccurate the polling is these days, and has been for the last few election cycles. I cannot blame either the left leaning or right leaning media on this one. They don’t take the time or invest the resources to do much more than read the polls they’re given to read. The problem isn’t the media here. Not necessarily, voting behavior on a hidden secret ballot or behind a curtain versus polling positions that are said out loud to a person. that matters… point 1 trump always always always himself out performed polling. possible explanation people that couldn’t stand him told everyone they wouldn’t vote for him, but behind the curtain perhaps some element of policy was just enough. point 2, Rs underperformed polls this time.. what was the top issue on the ballot that people might not want to be transparent about?? Abortion! So overtly: economy bad, abortion evil… privately behind a curtain maybe having that escape hatch from an undesirable situation is more influential. 7 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Rush Limbo profited off Conservatives, that makes him a liberal...or something 🙄 Aaaah that’s what you think of as mainstream media. Now the delusion adds up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Not necessarily, voting behavior on a hidden secret ballot or behind a curtain versus polling positions that are said out loud to a person. that matters… point 1 trump always always always himself out performed polling. possible explanation people that couldn’t stand him told everyone they wouldn’t vote for him, but behind the curtain perhaps some element of policy was just enough. point 2, Rs underperformed polls this time.. what was the top issue on the ballot that people might not want to be transparent about?? Abortion! So overtly: economy bad, abortion evil… privately behind a curtain maybe having that escape hatch from an undesirable situation is more influential. Aaaah that’s what you think of as mainstream media. Now the delusion adds up. “ Rush Limbo” though, ya gotta give @Tiberius credit for slipping in a humdinger there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 11 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: “ Rush Limbo” though, ya gotta give @Tiberius credit for slipping in a humdinger there. Stole it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiGoose Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Looks like the polling for the midterms turned out to be excellent. Per The Economist: Quote “The Economist has built a statistical model to estimate vote-counts in each race based on the number of outstanding ballots in each county. This model shows Republicans on track to win roughly 50.8% of the total votes cast for either major party in the chamber. If so, pollsters will have come impressively close: our aggregate of so-called generic-ballot polls had the party winning 50.4%.” Quote The story is much the same elsewhere. Across 19 states that had competitive Senate races this year, polls for presidential and Senate races in 2020 overestimated Democratic candidates’ vote margin by an average of 4.7 points. This year they appear to have undershot the party by 0.9 points on average. Quote It will take months for pollsters to probe why they did not suffer so badly this year from the methodological spectres haunting their methods last time. One theory is that Donald Trump’s presence on the ticket heightens turnout among lower-propensity voters who do not answer pollsters’ calls. That caused polls to underestimate Republicans in presidential years but not in midterms. Another possibility is that aggregates were dominated by pollsters who are friendly towards Republicans, biasing our forecasts. Nine of the final ten polls released for the New Hampshire Senate race, for example, came from firms that our algorithms estimate were friendlier towards Republicans than the average pollster. That is a good reminder that, when it comes to election prediction, most prognosticators are at the mercy of the pollsters. This time round, they have done well. So if the polling was excellent, but everyone is surprised by the outcome, that does lead credence to the idea that our media sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Looks like the polling for the midterms turned out to be excellent. Per The Economist: So if the polling was excellent, but everyone is surprised by the outcome, that does lead credence to the idea that our media sucks. More like people are stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Looks like the polling for the midterms turned out to be excellent. Per The Economist: So if the polling was excellent, but everyone is surprised by the outcome, that does lead credence to the idea that our media sucks. No argument from me. Our media definitely sucks. The American people better get used to the fact that they’re not being fed what they used to think of as news reporting. Everything is just an opinion show now. Sad…and terribly exhausting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 . 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 Excited to see who does, and doesn’t, cover this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Over 29 years of fanhood Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: so a portion of the billions in aid funneled to the Ukraine was then laundered through ftx back to a democratic super pac? close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 China 100% agrees with this thread title! As reporters were being ushered out of the room, a TV producer called out to ask Biden if he would raise human rights during the talks. A man on the Chinese side yanked the producer backward by her backpack, and she lost her balance but didn’t fall. Two White House staff members then intervened and said the producer should be left alone. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/14/biden-xi-meeting-bali-g20/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 DEMOCRACY DIES IN POOR HEADLINE CHOICES: Suspected U-Va. gunman had troubled childhood, but then flourished. —The Washington Post, today. Might want to rethink this one, fellas: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 GENTLEMEN, YOU CAN’T COMMIT JOURNALISM HERE — THIS IS A NEWS SHOW! NBC suspends correspondent . . . . . . after network was forced to retract exclusive report on how Nancy Pelosi’s husband Paul, 82, calmly opened door to cops — and then walked towards ‘hammer intruder’ who bludgeoned him. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11428999/NBC-SUSPENDS-correspondent-network-forced-retract-exclusive-report-Paul-Pelosi-attack.html Still awaiting the suspensions for the fake "dossier / collusion stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 16, 2022 Share Posted November 16, 2022 I can see why @SCBills thinks the media cannot be trusted - lolz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 I QUESTION THE TIMING, AS THEY SAY: Four Developments That Waited Until After the Midterms. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/11/17/five-developments-that-waited-until-after-the-midterms-n1646639 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 28 minutes ago, B-Man said: I QUESTION THE TIMING, AS THEY SAY: Four Developments That Waited Until After the Midterms. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/11/17/five-developments-that-waited-until-after-the-midterms-n1646639 So there is a conspiracy involving all the media companies working together? That's the gist of this post and the entire thread? Sounds a lot like something the authoritarian governments say about the free press Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Orlando Tim Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Tiberius said: So there is a conspiracy involving all the media companies working together? That's the gist of this post and the entire thread? Sounds a lot like something the authoritarian governments say about the free press Before the last election every liberal news source lied about Bidens son laptop, in 2012 Candy Crowley lied during a debate to benefit Obama, in 2004 CBS made up a whole story about GWB, so the accusation is not without precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said: Before the last election every liberal news source lied about Bidens son laptop, in 2012 Candy Crowley lied during a debate to benefit Obama, in 2004 CBS made up a whole story about GWB, so the accusation is not without precedent. So it is a massive left wing conspiracy! We are literally living in a country where the media is like in Soviet Russia, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: So there is a conspiracy involving all the media companies working together? That's the gist of this post and the entire thread? Nope. Never has been. It shows that you do not read (or understand) the multiple examples that are posted daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, B-Man said: Nope. Never has been. It shows that you do not read (or understand) the multiple examples that are posted daily. Maybe because its just nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So it is a massive left wing conspiracy! We are literally living in a country where the media is like in Soviet Russia, huh? When did I mention government control? I literally said the media is known for lying to influence elections and you added in the part that Democrats are Communists, at least you admit who your side is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, Orlando Tim said: When did I mention government control? I literally said the media is known for lying to influence elections and you added in the part that Democrats are Communists, at least you admit who your side is! So the major corporations that run the media companies and pro-communism? Maybe try some of this: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tiberius said: So the major corporations that run the media companies and pro-communism? Maybe try some of this: When did I say that the media was communist? You are the only person who compared our media to the Soviet Union. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDHillFan Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 Trust the media! All they are doing is seeking the truth! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 What Elephant? AP Falsely Denies that There is Any Evidence That Joe Biden Discussed Hunter’s Business Dealings. https://jonathanturley.org/2022/11/20/what-elephant-associated-press-falsely-denies-that-there-is-any-evidence-that-joe-biden-discussed-hunters-business-dealings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 You can't really trust anything anymore. Everyone has an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted November 22, 2022 Share Posted November 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Doc said: You can't really trust anything anymore. Everyone has an agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCal Deek Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 hours ago, B-Man said: . It what definition of the word would this numbskull be considered a ‘journalist’? I would think his own network wouldn’t toss that word around so easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 NBC News reports that right-wingers are doubling down on inflammatory rhetoric in wake of Club Q shooting https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/23/nbc-news-reports-that-right-wingers-are-doubling-down-on-inflammatory-rhetoric-in-wake-of-club-q-shooting/ Why does NBC News think LGBT people are groomers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 NBC should suspend themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted November 24, 2022 Share Posted November 24, 2022 13 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: It what definition of the word would this numbskull be considered a ‘journalist’? I would think his own network wouldn’t toss that word around so easily. Because in our new clown world where words are redefined at random, journalist means political activist for leftist causes, and half the nation is perfectly fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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