T master Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) On 6/10/2021 at 6:09 AM, SCBills said: I guess we can just keep a list here of everything the media has lied, or “misinformed” the public of over the last few years. Russiagate Bountygate Officer Sicknick skull bashed in with a fire extinguisher Covington Catholic kids Hunter Biden’s laptop is “Russian misinformation” ”Debunked” Wuhan lab leak President Trump “tear gassed” protesters for a photo op The science behind hydroxychloroquine Yes we can but it all fit their agenda and by either misinforming the public or just with holding pertinent information some of their agenda has been completed but the truth is now coming out so even those that believed it will be able to see what they were trying to do but i think it may not make a difference even when they can see the proof . Edited June 11, 2021 by T master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, T master said: Okay...........we get it. Just kidding "T" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Okay...........we get it. Just kidding "T" I’m trying to find the 7x green check reply button to supersize my like of @T master post! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Governor said: They had to create their own news echo chamber because there wasn’t ever any good news about them. That shows the decay of the party. Why is it always about the "party"? Why is one party "good" and another party "bad"? You only believe what you want to believe? You seem to lose sight of the issue that most news outlets are shameless shills for the Political Class -- both left and right. They should just come out from behind their transparent curtain and go back to the days when there were "party publications" and let all the other outlets report on the un-slanted facts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 Just now, snafu said: Why is it always about the "party"? Why is one party "good" and another party "bad"? You only believe what you want to believe? You seem to lose sight of the issue that most news outlets are shameless shills for the Political Class -- both left and right. They should just come out from behind their transparent curtain and go back to the days when there were "party publications" and let all the other outlets report on the un-slanted facts. I’ve always supported bringing back an updated version of The Fairness Doctrine which would eliminate cable news and all of the echo chamber news that you see in this board. As of right now, this isn’t a “both sides” problem. 1 party is much, much worse than the other. 1 party actually exists in an alternate reality and doesn’t believe in a due-north on truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Governor said: I’ve always supported bringing back an updated version of The Fairness Doctrine which would eliminate cable news and all of the echo chamber news that you see in this board. As of right now, this isn’t a “both sides” problem. 1 party is much, much worse than the other. 1 party actually exists in an alternate reality and doesn’t believe in a due-north on truth. So that's a yes. You believe what you want to believe. The "echo chamber news that you see in this board" comes from both sides and parties' platforms. How do you quantify "much worse"? You say "alternate reality" but perhaps you mean a less hyperbolic "different viewpoint". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, snafu said: So that's a yes. You believe what you want to believe. The "echo chamber news that you see in this board" comes from both sides and parties' platforms. How do you quantify "much worse"? You say "alternate reality" but perhaps you mean a less hyperbolic "different viewpoint". I believe in things that are real and can be confirmed as truth. I don’t watch the news. I strictly follow campaigns and certain policy. I don’t chase boogeyman social issues unless I’m extremely bored and want to bludgeon my opponents over the head for my own entertainment. If I’m up early enough, I’ll watch the Washington Journal to get an idea on which way the winds are blowing on certain issues. I only care about winning elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I’m trying to find the 7x green check reply button to supersize my like of @T master post! Oh dam i didn't quite get it till i went back and looked i must have had a tremor or something there for a second 😂 Edited June 11, 2021 by T master 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 11, 2021 Share Posted June 11, 2021 On 6/10/2021 at 7:09 AM, SCBills said: I guess we can just keep a list here of everything the media has lied, or “misinformed” the public of over the last few years. Russiagate Bountygate Officer Sicknick skull bashed in with a fire extinguisher Covington Catholic kids Hunter Biden’s laptop is “Russian misinformation” ”Debunked” Wuhan lab leak President Trump “tear gassed” protesters for a photo op The science behind hydroxychloroquine Funny, you left off SPYGATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 The question is not whether "the Media" can or cannot be trusted to tell the truth or the facts objectively (not sure if the OP is including sketch Twitter feeds as part of this too).... It is whether enough US citizens have the mental capacity to tell the difference regardless of the source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SCBills Posted June 12, 2021 Author Share Posted June 12, 2021 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Funny, you left off SPYGATE Pretty sure the media is covering this right now, and as it’s not detrimental to Democrats, are not slanting their coverage in a biased fashion and/or deliberately misreporting. Now if you want to say Fox isn’t really covering it, you’d be correct... but to my knowledge, they haven’t lied about it yet. Simply resorting to the tactic of not reporting bad news about “your side” ie., none of the network Nightly News covering the Ilhan Omar vs Dems infighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 I bet y'all trust Putin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 12, 2021 Share Posted June 12, 2021 10 hours ago, WideNine said: The question is not whether "the Media" can or cannot be trusted to tell the truth or the facts objectively (not sure if the OP is including sketch Twitter feeds as part of this too).... It is whether enough US citizens have the mental capacity to tell the difference regardless of the source. When to majority of the media repeatedly states that 1.75 trillion is more than 1.9 trillion and half the country agrees we know that some people can't determine truth on their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 My Top 10 media lies by Michael Goodwin Another one bites the dust. Another media lie, that is. The latest lie to die is the false claim the feds cleared Lafayette Park of protesters last year so then-President Donald Trump could hold a photo op. https://nypost.com/2021/06/12/my-top-10-media-lies-goodwin/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 #JOURNALISM: Why Is Austin Media Refusing to Release Description of At-Large Austin Shooter? Just Kidding. You Know Why. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2021/06/12/why-is-the-austin-media-refusing-to-release-description-of-at-large-austin-shooter-just-kidding-you-know-why-n1454212 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Maybe he's the same guy who shot Ashli Babbitt? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, Doc said: Maybe he's the same guy who shot Ashli Babbitt? Why didn’t she comply? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, BillStime said: Why didn’t she comply? Don't go blaming the victim, now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Doc said: Don't go blaming the victim, now. So those questions are only appropriate when it’s a black person involved - got it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: So those questions are only appropriate when it’s a black person involved - got it Nope, they've always been appropriate, for everyone. It's why I've always said don't commit crimes and don't resist arrest/assault police officers and odds are you won't die at their hands, without ever specifying race. But I'd still like to know who shot her, why it's being hidden and what his motive for killing her was? If it's because she didn't listen to him even though she was unarmed and a lot smaller than him, would you accept that when a cop kills a black person? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Just now, Doc said: Nope, they've always been appropriate, for everyone. It's why I've always said don't commit crimes and don't resist arrest/assault police officers and odds are you won't die at their hands, without ever specifying race. But I'd still like to know who shot her, why it's being hidden and what his motive for killing her was? If it's because she didn't listen to him even though she was unarmed and a lot smaller than him, would you accept that when a cop kills a black person? I think not. Motive? Was there any question? Where was she in the Capitol when it happened? Where was she going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, BillStime said: Motive? Was there any question? Where was she in the Capitol when it happened? Where was she going? I don't know? Besides trying to get inside the building, where do you think she was going? Is that justification enough to shoot her dead? Be careful of the slippery slope you're walking here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Doc said: I don't know? Besides trying to get inside the building, where do you think she was going? Is that justification enough to shoot her dead? Be careful of the slippery slope you're walking here. Slippery? Nah not at all. This woman is certainly a victim. A victim of fake news - non stop fake messaging around the Big Lie - and was incited to go to the Capitol. Its really sad her life was taken to advance a narrative that was simply not true. But I’m sure - as a member of the party of personal responsibility - that she knew the risks breaking into the Capitol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Back to the correct topic................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 39 minutes ago, BillStime said: Slippery? Nah not at all. This woman is certainly a victim. A victim of fake news - non stop fake messaging around the Big Lie - and was incited to go to the Capitol. Its really sad her life was taken to advance a narrative that was simply not true. But I’m sure - as a member of the party of personal responsibility - that she knew the risks breaking into the Capitol. Hook, line and sinker. I guess the BLM movement is now dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Doc said: Hook, line and sinker. I guess the BLM movement is now dead. BLM is a lie? Their lives don’t matter? Is that what you’re implying? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 (edited) On 6/10/2021 at 11:50 AM, Governor said: Right. So what you confirmed is that “some” data, emails, etc., are authentic and came from somewhere, likely his iPhone. What you can’t confirm is that the laptop really belongs to him(store owner vanished) and that the data was present on that device when it was given to that store owner and then to Rudy. Even if the laptop belonged to him, it doesn’t prove any of the other things. This is what you guys are purposely ignoring. So, what we likely have here is a device stuffed full of hacked material, some real, some fake, and the FBI hasn’t confirmed any of those things yet. This isn’t hard guys. Going by what Rudy did previously with the Weiner laptop, we know the intent wasn’t to find anything criminal, but to force an investigation open that gives the impression of wrong doing. The emails or content in those emails never mattered to them and it turned out to be totally bogus. We see the same exact strategy played out with the Hunter Biden story, every step of the way. Same exact thing. It was a replay of 2016 except this time everyone was waiting for it and fell off their couch laughing when it came in the final weeks. So now, Rudy has these “other” hard drives that contain NEW juicy corruption. Sound familiar? Hmm….where have we seen this before? Hey, wait a minute! This is the same as Hillary’s buttery males!!!!? This is why I often refer to Trump as a “one trick pony.” "Likely his iPhone" is speculation. And the alternative is some Russian operation or some other organized mis-information campaign planted the PC and also created thousands of fake e-mails, files, photos, etc. is also speculation without any hint of proof or facts made available to the public. Amazingly people actually believe this or choose not to believe the simplest explanation. Might this be a scenario where Occam's Razor could apply? You might be embellishing here by inserting Rudy here in the chain of custody. The chain of custody was Hunter to the Repair Shop to the FBI. The simplest and most logical explanation is the machine belongs to Hunter and all the contents are genuine and he was into some unethical and illegal stuff along with his dad. And the FBI buried it. Case closed. Edited June 13, 2021 by All_Pro_Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, BillStime said: BLM is a lie? Their lives don’t matter? Is that what you’re implying? Yes, BLM organization is a lie...it does not support black lives...just ask Brianna Taylor’s family, or Michael Brown’s family- who called them out as frauds...they simply use dead black people as pawns in their Marxist, racist, political crusade to tear down the country... Edited June 14, 2021 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Yes, BLM organization is a lie...it does not support black lives...just ask Brianna Taylor’s family, or Michael Brown’s family- who called them out as frauds...they simply use dead black people as pawns in their Marxist, racist, political crusade to tear down the country... Wow - you make them sound like the NRA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 8 hours ago, BillStime said: Wow - you make them sound like the NRA. Oh? How so? Edited June 14, 2021 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: "Likely his iPhone" is speculation. And the alternative is some Russian operation or some other organized mis-information campaign planted the PC and also created thousands of fake e-mails, files, photos, etc. is also speculation without any hint of proof or facts made available to the public. Amazingly people actually believe this or choose not to believe the simplest explanation. Might this be a scenario where Occam's Razor could apply? You might be embellishing here by inserting Rudy here in the chain of custody. The chain of custody was Hunter to the Repair Shop to the FBI. The simplest and most logical explanation is the machine belongs to Hunter and all the contents are genuine and he was into some unethical and illegal stuff along with his dad. And the FBI buried it. Case closed. We both could be partly right. We don’t actually have any reason to believe there’s anything illegal or questionable on the laptop at all, real or fake. For all we know, it’s data from games and vacation photos. What type of illegal stuff do you think would be stored on the system drive of a personal laptop and in what format? Are you insinuating that he saved some juicy stuff to a folder named cORruPTioN? What is he being accused of again? Do we even know? Edited June 14, 2021 by Governor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 Currently the Austin Statemen is refusing to identify the shooter this weekend as black. Apparently they have made a decision not to mention his race. If this is their overall new policy, to never mention race in these situations, I will support it fully but I bet if he was white we would know it from them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Currently the Austin Statemen is refusing to identify the shooter this weekend as black. Apparently they have made a decision not to mention his race. If this is their overall new policy, to never mention race in these situations, I will support it fully but I bet if he was white we would know it from them This is classic CRT strategy...the news purposely doesn’t say the race if it is a minority because they think it hurts minorities...they only say the race if the criminal is white- to further the narrative of white supremacy... But that will have an unintended consequence of making it seem like only white people do bad things...and if, by chance, it is known that a black/brown person committed a crime, it is simply said that white supremacy made them do it anyway... This ideology is going to have majorly devastating effects, long term, on our society, if individuals are not held to account because of their group identity...it goes against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the very foundation upon which our society was built...but, I guess that’s the point of CRT since it is rooted in Marxism...meaning, it doesn’t recognize individual rights, but rather group identity...this is also why it is the opposite of Martin Luther King’s CIVIL RIGHTS movement... CRT is no different than pitting the proletariat (oppressed) against the bourgeois (oppressor)...except you’re using race instead of class (black vs white) to achieve the same goal- which is the overthrow of the American system... ”The road to ruin is paved with good intentions...” ”Compassion without wisdom leads to foolhardiness...” Edited June 14, 2021 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 11 hours ago, JaCrispy said: Yes, BLM organization is a lie...it does not support black lives...just ask Brianna Taylor’s family, or Michael Brown’s family- who called them out as frauds...they simply use dead black people as pawns in their Marxist, racist, political crusade to tear down the country... Marxist? Huh? The communists always attacked or destroyed voting rights, Dems, Liberals, BLM etc. all support voting rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Currently the Austin Statemen is refusing to identify the shooter this weekend as black. Apparently they have made a decision not to mention his race. If this is their overall new policy, to never mention race in these situations, I will support it fully but I bet if he was white we would know it from them If the media purposely isn’t mentioning race, how do you know the shooter is black? Was Alex Jones on scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Marxist? Huh? The communists always attacked or destroyed voting rights, Dems, Liberals, BLM etc. all support voting rights. Yes Marxist, straight from the founders’ own mouths...it’s actually quite well documented...However, the people I come into contact with, that support BLM, always seem to be unfamiliar with the deeper agenda...they always seem to say they just like what the name says- to which I agree... But I cannot support BLM organization so long as they are Marxist and so long as they really don’t care about helping black people, if they can’t make it a racial issue against whites... Case in point, both the families of Brianna Taylor and Michael Brown have come out and criticized the organization as frauds, because BLM used them to raise money, but did nothing to actually help them...Meanwhile, hundreds of innocent black people are killed every year at the hands of other blacks, while co-founder Patrice Culloo’s is spending millions, from the organization, on homes for her and her family...they don’t care because it doesn’t further their cause of dividing and tearing down the American system, imo... So I have to side with the families of Brianna Taylor and Michael Brown on this one...I cannot support the ideology or actions of BLM organization, because ALL black lives matter...👍 Edited June 14, 2021 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: Currently the Austin Statemen is refusing to identify the shooter this weekend as black. Apparently they have made a decision not to mention his race. If this is their overall new policy, to never mention race in these situations, I will support it fully but I bet if he was white we would know it from them Fake news From the Austin American Statesman: Police have arrested one suspect in the shooting. Because the suspect is a juvenile, no further information about them has been released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted June 14, 2021 Share Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Fake news From the Austin American Statesman: Police have arrested one suspect in the shooting. Because the suspect is a juvenile, no further information about them has been released. And this is certainly understandable...however, there have been other instances where the person was an adult and the race was not specified... Like the man who rammed his car into a police barricade in DC, killing 1 police officer and injuring another...the man was black, but the news refused to say, because they follow CRT and Anti-racist ideology, which essentially says that because this man’s group identity is oppressed, we are not going to further oppress that group by reporting that a black man committed a crime... On the flip side, crimes by white people are being highlighted because their identity group are considered oppressors (so, in essence, the media feels they need to be attacked more to knock them down a bit)...whether or not you think it’s right, this sort of “Anti-racist” behavior is actually quite racist because it is not giving equal treatment, in order to protect one group over the other... Unfortunately, this sort of disingenuous biased reporting does so much more bad than good for society imo...and has helped to create a sick hatred for white people, to the point where many minorities feel they can get away with any criminal activity because of their skin color...I remember most people thinking this guy was white, because it was an attack on the capital...but it wasn’t... This is not good for anybody... https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/7064125002 Edited June 14, 2021 by JaCrispy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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