Bruffalo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, FFadpecr said: WR is a huge weakness for the Bills. Josh makes all the WRs look better than they truly are. But WR is a weak spot on the team. And now Sanders is week2week. Sanders hurts the offense. He's a good player and it's not his fault, but Daboll is incredibly predictable and boring with Diggs/Sanders/Bease. With Sanders out it opens up the offense for Davis/McKenzie to come in and do some good stuff. It's a Daboll problem though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Sanders hurts the offense. He's a good player and it's not his fault, but Daboll is incredibly predictable and boring with Diggs/Sanders/Bease. With Sanders out it opens up the offense for Davis/McKenzie to come in and do some good stuff. It's a Daboll problem though. I can’t figure out why Davis doesn’t get more snaps. His lack of athleticism may limit him a bit, but I’m not convinced that Sanders has more speed and quickness at this point in his career. In a league where you’re always trying to get younger and cheaper, Davis over Sanders seems like a no brainer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Billl said: I can’t figure out why Davis doesn’t get more snaps. His lack of athleticism may limit him a bit, but I’m not convinced that Sanders has more speed and quickness at this point in his career. In a league where you’re always trying to get younger and cheaper, Davis over Sanders seems like a no brainer. Because Daboll never uses his depth unless he has to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Because Daboll never uses his depth unless he has to. Is it Daboll or is it McDermott? I mean Moss and Basham were healthy scratches and Epenesa can barely get on the field (though he did play a little more yesterday). You only get 3-4 cheap years from players in this league. Getting snaps from those guys is such a huge advantage that paying guys like Sanders and Hughes $14,000,000 strikes me as a waste of resources when you’ve got their potential replacements in house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 34 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Because Daboll never uses his depth unless he has to. Do you want to just run empty sets all day? I’m sorry, but Sanders has more yards this year already than Gabe had in 2020 on 16 games. Gabe is a nice player, but he isn’t the missing link on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 minute ago, FireChans said: Do you want to just run empty sets all day? I’m sorry, but Sanders has more yards this year already than Gabe had in 2020 on 16 games. Gabe is a nice player, but he isn’t the missing link on offense. I didn't say that I wanted to replace Sanders with Gabe completely. I think missing Sanders forces Daboll to be more creative with his play calling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, FFadpecr said: WR is a huge weakness for the Bills. Josh makes all the WRs look better than they truly are. But WR is a weak spot on the team. And now Sanders is week2week. WR is a huge weakness? LOL Cant even get Gabe Davis the reps he deserves because of too many mouths to feed....it is only after Sanders goes down with an injury that gets the reps Davis deserves....THAT is the sign of depth 12 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: It seems every loss (and some wins), we find more weaknesses with this team. Just like every NFL team in the league....are we special? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I guess the Bills are a special case, because they were a SB favorite that is likely to miss the playoffs. Exactly what does that have to do with wide receiver depth We have receivers.....our OL is and RB room is ***** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I wasn't a fan of the Basham pick...........but I also don't know what kind of guard Humphrey would have made. He's been a center forever........if you plug Humphrey in at center then Morse is off the field. He can't play guard. Not physical enough. So you likely still end up Boettger, Williams and Ford at the guards around a rookie center deploying an outside zone attack.........which probably still sucks. Beane has tied himself up in knots with numbers. Example: he traded Wyatt Teller because they got to camp and realized that Mr. "we need a tackle" Cody Ford was a shaky RT and might have to play guard. So they kept Boettger because he had worked hard to train as a backup at every position. Boettger has never played anything other than guard since. On the plus side.......we saw some old Greg Roman style inside zone running last night and suddenly the run blocking didn't look so bad. As bad as the OL has been this year............the coaching and techniques chosen have been just as bad. It's my opinion that Center is the weakest position on our Line and all our issues in Run blocking and Pass blocking start with him. Happy to have Humphrey on the field at Center over Morse. He's looked good starting right away at Center for KC. Hold on to Morse this year as a backup, and he's gone next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I wasn't a fan of the Basham pick...........but I also don't know what kind of guard Humphrey would have made. He's been a center forever........if you plug Humphrey in at center then Morse is off the field. He can't play guard. Not physical enough. So you likely still end up Boettger, Williams and Ford at the guards around a rookie center deploying an outside zone attack.........which probably still sucks. Beane has tied himself up in knots with numbers. Example: he traded Wyatt Teller because they got to camp and realized that Mr. "we need a tackle" Cody Ford was a shaky RT and might have to play guard. So they kept Boettger because he had worked hard to train as a backup at every position. Boettger has never played anything other than guard since. On the plus side.......we saw some old Greg Roman style inside zone running last night and suddenly the run blocking didn't look so bad. As bad as the OL has been this year............the coaching and techniques chosen have been just as bad. So you think they got rid of Teller to keep Ford ? If so that is criminal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Gregory R. is going to be a force......Elijah Moore is a undersized WR that will probably be hurt most of his career AND we were already stacked at WR and still are. In the second round? Every passing DNP Boogie is looking like the wrong call Stacked at WR? Ummm…no. We have Diggs and then a bunch of replaceable guys after that. Go get a blue chipper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: So you think they got rid of Teller to keep Ford ? If so that is criminal. To keep Boettger. I believe Beane even explained that decision somewhere in the media well before Teller broke out with Cleveland. Boettger had been training to play every position to make himself useful. Teller was guard only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: To keep Boettger. I believe Beane even explained that decision somewhere in the media well before Teller broke out with Cleveland. Boettger had been training to play every position to make himself useful. Teller was guard only. Thats brilliant , get rid of talent over a less talented player because they are training him for more positions. They could have put other spots too, its like we had a great two years building this team and then the decisions since have been regressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: As bad as the OL has been this year............the coaching and techniques chosen have been just as bad. this 1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Thats brilliant , get rid of talent over a less talented player because they are training him for more positions. They could have put other spots too, its like we had a great two years building this team and then the decisions since have been regressing. I think Teller blossomed under a different OL coaching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, ganesh said: this Ine think Teller blossomed under a different OL coaching. that could be but that should tell ya we need a new Oline coach if these guys have been getting worse as time goes by. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSarcasm Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: Stacked at WR? Ummm…no. We have Diggs and then a bunch of replaceable guys after that. Go get a blue chipper. How many teams have a #2 WR Blue Chipper? 3 maybe? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 4 hours ago, Billl said: I can’t figure out why Davis doesn’t get more snaps. His lack of athleticism may limit him a bit, but I’m not convinced that Sanders has more speed and quickness at this point in his career. In a league where you’re always trying to get younger and cheaper, Davis over Sanders seems like a no brainer. Sanders has been getting open consistently this season. Allen has missed him a few times. All great QBs make their WRs better. I have no problem letting Davis get more reps. But, lets keep the focus where is should be. The oline is terrible, Edmunds is the worst player on defense, and McDermott is a gutless fraud. McDermott for as much as I want him gone is not going anywhere. Beane can address the oline and they can trade Edmunds to someone the unsuspecting team that will say for three years he is young. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, whorlnut said: Stacked at WR? Ummm…no. We have Diggs and then a bunch of replaceable guys after that. Go get a blue chipper. Literally thousand yard receivers all over the place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 5:44 PM, DJB said: Ha ha ha HE FELL FOR IT TOO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: So you think they got rid of Teller to keep Ford ? If so that is criminal. One of many horrible moves this GM has made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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