Roundybout Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: And write an EO making abortion the law of the land and jam pack the court - who cares about the constitution, right? People who support this POS don’t give a fk about the constitution: And if the president is supposed to be immune to the law as Trump wants, why shouldn’t Biden just send Seal Team 6 out to take out his political enemies? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Actually I think slapping Texas back into compliance will be a very popular move. This is quite the high stakes game of chicken here.. Dems would love for Texas to defy the Court so that gives Dems cause to try and do whatever they want. R’s would love the optics of the Biden Admin forcing Texas to leave themselves open to a border invasion. Both sides are playing with fire, but no.. “slapping Texas back into compliance” would not play well for Dems. Look at polling on the border… people have had enough. It may have taken Abbott bussing them to sanctuary cities, but people have finally experienced it first hand and when black women are fed up with it.. Biden has a problem. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, Roundybout said: And if the president is supposed to be immune to the law as Trump wants, why shouldn’t Biden just send Seal Team 6 out to take out his political enemies? Exactly. Biden has total immunity EVEN IF IT CROSSES the line <- Trumps words. So yeah - let’s send in ST6 - take out the cult - and make Biden King for life. These idiots never think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 22 minutes ago, SCBills said: This is quite the high stakes game of chicken here.. Dems would love for Texas to defy the Court so that gives Dems cause to try and do whatever they want. R’s would love the optics of the Biden Admin forcing Texas to leave themselves open to a border invasion. Both sides are playing with fire, but no.. “slapping Texas back into compliance” would not play well for Dems. Look at polling on the border… people have had enough. It may have taken Abbott bussing them to sanctuary cities, but people have finally experienced it first hand and when black women are fed up with it.. Biden has a problem. Like I said, then what is stopping Biden from ignoring the SCOTUS ruling on student loans? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 48 minutes ago, SCBills said: This is quite the high stakes game of chicken here.. Dems would love for Texas to defy the Court so that gives Dems cause to try and do whatever they want. R’s would love the optics of the Biden Admin forcing Texas to leave themselves open to a border invasion. Both sides are playing with fire, but no.. “slapping Texas back into compliance” would not play well for Dems. Look at polling on the border… people have had enough. It may have taken Abbott bussing them to sanctuary cities, but people have finally experienced it first hand and when black women are fed up with it.. Biden has a problem. Where the Democrats are messing up is, they’re not on point with their messaging that the president is actually trying to put a deal with them on the border The Republicans are using it as a political point they don’t actually want to fix the border. They just want to complain about it. Force their hand 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 36 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Like I said, then what is stopping Biden from ignoring the SCOTUS ruling on student loans? No clue .. we may be entering a whole new world. DeSantis & Youngkin just pledged support to Abbott in defiance. If Biden wants to lose a blue collar state like Pennsylvania to Trump, he could certainly send Federal forces down to Texas to show down with their National Guard or use it as ammo to ram through student loan forgiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: No clue .. we may be entering a whole new world. DeSantis & Youngkin just pledged support to Abbott in defiance. If Biden wants to lose a blue collar state like Pennsylvania to Trump, he could certainly send Federal forces down to Texas to show down with their National Guard or use it as ammo to ram through student loan forgiveness. He'll do neither. You're right. These are minor battles. The war is the election. but f'in youngkin! Edited January 25 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, SCBills said: No clue .. we may be entering a whole new world. DeSantis & Youngkin just pledged support to Abbott in defiance. If Biden wants to lose a blue collar state like Pennsylvania to Trump, he could certainly send Federal forces down to Texas to show down with their National Guard or use it as ammo to ram through student loan forgiveness. You certainly are kidding yourself if you think the border is going to trump abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, BillStime said: You certainly are kidding yourself if you think the border is going to trump abortion. We need both issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 9 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: We need both issues. We do - but women wants their rights back - immigration and the border has been an issue my entire life. Donald Trump didn’t solve it w his first and only four years and unless we bomb South America and not help remediate the issues at the source - people will continue to migrate north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: unless we bomb South America or help straighten out south/central america. never mind, that's not "America First" according to 1/2 the country, but I digress. Edited January 25 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 19 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: or help straighten out south/central america. never mind, that's not "America First" according to 1/2 the country, but I digress. so we will always have a border issue f them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BillStime said: so we will always have a border issue f them the world is getting smaller by the minute and they insist on xenophobia. It's f'in craziness. but it plays well... Edited January 25 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 8 hours ago, SCBills said: No clue .. we may be entering a whole new world. DeSantis & Youngkin just pledged support to Abbott in defiance. If Biden wants to lose a blue collar state like Pennsylvania to Trump, he could certainly send Federal forces down to Texas to show down with their National Guard or use it as ammo to ram through student loan forgiveness. Yeah and I don’t like it. That’s why this needs to be nipped in the bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Were the Dems always statist over states or individual rights. Cause they are now and they seem to be gleefully proud of the parroting When ideology and band wagoning gets in the way of common sense. You have what the fed is doing. What happened to the general welfare of the US citizens? Left used to bring that up all the time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 8 hours ago, BillStime said: We do - but women wants their rights back - immigration and the border has been an issue my entire life. Donald Trump didn’t solve it w his first and only four years and unless we bomb South America and not help remediate the issues at the source - people will continue to migrate north. A lot of migrants aren't coming from South America. Should we be obliged to "fix" all those countries too? And what specific things would you suggest we do? Edited January 25 by All_Pro_Bills 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 12 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Where the Democrats are messing up is, they’re not on point with their messaging that the president is actually trying to put a deal with them on the border The Republicans are using it as a political point they don’t actually want to fix the border. They just want to complain about it. Force their hand Then it gets turned back on them when people ask "why do we need to tie this to anything else, like aid for Ukraine"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, Doc said: Then it gets turned back on them when people ask "why do we need to tie this to anything else, like aid for Ukraine"? Nope. It's how this democracy has survived. What about compromise do you not understand? Both sides need to save face. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 28 minutes ago, B-Man said: Too bad, SCOTUS gave you a direct order. Do we need to send the 101st in like we did when y’all doubled down on school segregation? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 West Virginia: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 hours ago, All_Pro_Bills said: A lot of migrants aren't coming from South America. Should we be obliged to "fix" all those countries too? And what specific things would you suggest we do? A majority are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 10 minutes ago, Roundybout said: Too bad, SCOTUS gave you a direct order. No. The truth is that he's not defying SCOTUS. The order only lifted the stay on Biden's border agents cutting razor wire. There is no order preventing Texas from installing more razor wire. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 (edited) 11 minutes ago, B-Man said: No. The truth is that he's not defying SCOTUS. The order only lifted the stay on Biden's border agents cutting razor wire. There is no order preventing Texas from installing more razor wire. OMG. have you read the ruling? What was its intent? Here since you won't bother to look it up. The intent is to allow federal agents access. More razor wire stops access. https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/22/texas-border-supreme-court-immigration/ Edited January 25 by Joe Ferguson forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 IDAHO: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 You all know it's too late already. The enormous amount of undocumented, unfettered illegal immigrants that has already taken place will cost this country more damage than we can imagine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, wnyguy said: You all know it's too late already. The enormous amount of undocumented, unfettered illegal immigrants that has already taken place will cost this country more damage than we can imagine. Oh, Trump got busted sabotaging a solution, so now it doesn't matter Ya right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wnyguy Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 18 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Oh, Trump got busted sabotaging a solution, so now it doesn't matter Ya right Oh it matters and I applaud the state of Texas for now trying to close the barn door after the cows already got out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 hour ago, BillStime said: A majority are. From where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, All_Pro_Bills said: From where? SOUTH AMERICA - if you don't know where it is - find a map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Callahan Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 It's a federal issue. In the absence of leadership a vaccume is created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: SOUTH AMERICA - if you don't know where it is - find a map. I don't need a map. I need you to tell me which South American countries people are coming from and how many people from each? If you can't answer that then how do you know the majority come from there? I think you might be mixing up South America with Central America so you might want to check that map you mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: I don't need a map. I need you to tell me which South American countries people are coming from and how many people from each? If you can't answer that then how do you know the majority come from there? I think you might be mixing up South America with Central America so you might want to check that map you mentioned. You can go do your own homework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Let’s Go Brandon! 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: Nope. It's how this democracy has survived. What about compromise do you not understand? Both sides need to save face. You compromise when you don't want to do something. Dems obviously don't want to close the border to illegals. 1 hour ago, wnyguy said: You all know it's too late already. The enormous amount of undocumented, unfettered illegal immigrants that has already taken place will cost this country more damage than we can imagine. 1 hour ago, wnyguy said: Oh it matters and I applaud the state of Texas for now trying to close the barn door after the cows already got out. This corrupt Admin wants every illegal they can get. It's not a matter of "too late," the barn door needs to still get shut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Pro_Bills Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 54 minutes ago, BillStime said: You can go do your own homework. You're the one that proclaimed the majority are coming from South America so I assumed you had some numbers at your disposal to share but if you're not willing to back up your claim then fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 18 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: or help straighten out south/central america. never mind, that's not "America First" according to 1/2 the country, but I digress. Do you really think we can go down to South/Central America and fix their countries when we can't even fix our own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson forever Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: Do you really think we can go down to South/Central America and fix their countries when we can't even fix our own? fix, no. improve, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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