Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This is in about 8 games, after Olsen got injured. Didn't see many offensive snaps in the rest. Basically he was a "fringe" starter for Seattle - PS his first 6 games in 2019, #2 or #3 TE in 2020 after Seattle signed former all-pro Olsen. He's not the TE upgrade I hoped the Bills were looking for, but he's probably 80% of Kroft at 20% of Kroft's salary. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRBills Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Imo this is absolutely the quality of player that we needed. Would an elite TE be nice to have? Sure, but the ball can only be put into so many play-makers hands. This offense is loaded at receiver. I think a versatile HB/TE with receiving abilities is exactly what this offense was lacking. I feel like we have been obsessing over TE when in reality our running game is what needs to be upgraded the most. im happy about this pick up and am excited to see what he brings to the table. Welcome to Buffalo Mr Hollister Edited March 19, 2021 by PRBills 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 How they heck do you get Jacob Hollister confused with Sammy Watkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, PRBills said: Imo this is absolutely the quality of player that we needed. Would an elite TE be nice to have? Sure, but the ball can only be put into so many play-makers hands. This offense is loaded at receiver. I think a versatile HB/TE with receiving abilities is exactly what this offense was lacking. I feel like we have been obsessing over TE when in reality our running game is what needs to be upgraded the most. im happy about this pick up and am excited to see what her brings to the table. Welcome to Buffalo Mr Hollister Hollister helps with the running game, too. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 46 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said: In 2019, his best season, he had 41 catches for 349 yards and 3 TD's. Which would be a big upgrade over Smith. That was in 10 games, for reference. Spent the first 6 games on the PS. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, NewEra said: And some people just like to pretend that they know it all by looking at stats. No I saw him play and he definitely lost some steps. Granted yes Wentz lost confidence in himself and he regressed badly but that still doesn’t change the fact that Ertz is starting to decline himself and that he was the third best TE on that Eagles team last year. You guys want him because he’s a big name and because of what he did 3 years ago. I’m glad your not in charge of the Front office 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRBills Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Just now, Boxcar said: Hollister helps with the running game, too. Kind of the point i was trying to make. All around a good pickup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: This is in about 8 games, after Olsen got injured. Didn't see many offensive snaps in the rest. Basically he was a "fringe" starter for Seattle - PS his first 6 games in 2019, #2 or #3 TE in 2020 after Seattle signed former all-pro Olsen. He's not the TE upgrade I hoped the Bills were looking for, but he's probably 80% of Kroft at 20% of Kroft's salary. TE market has been red hot... Might be more expensive than you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, PRBills said: Imo this is absolutely the quality of player that we needed. Would an elite TE be nice to have? Sure, but the ball can only be put into so many play-makers hands. This offense is loaded at receiver. I think a versatile HB/TE with receiving abilities is exactly what this offense was lacking. I feel like we have been obsessing over TE when in reality our running game is what needs to be upgraded the most. im happy about this pick up and am excited to see what he brings to the table. Welcome to Buffalo Mr Hollister He may help there? In the running game, I think he's a better blocker than Dawson Knox, who can block OK when it's clear who he's supposed to block but who seems easily confused about his actual blocking assignment (or stunted around) 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: No I saw him play and he definitely lost some steps. Granted yes Wentz lost confidence in himself and he regressed badly but that still doesn’t change the fact that Ertz is starting to decline himself and that he was the third best TE on that Eagles team last year. You guys want him because he’s a big name and because of what he did 3 years ago. I’m glad your not in charge of the Front office I think some people believe Ertz may have been making "career decisions" and kind of discouraged by the play around him and it's more about that then him losing a step. The thing is, that can get to be a habit 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, krf139 said: Everyone claimed Josh had no talent around him at Wyoming to justify his meh college stats, so nobody should be happy to bring in anyone he played with. Pretty sure that was about his starting talent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Sorry, just saw this signing and too lazy to read 7 pages. Can he block? by the way, he’s got great hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: TE market has been red hot... Might be more expensive than you think He might be. We'll see. He earned $3.2M with the Seasnakes last year - they gave him a second-round tender! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 30 minutes ago, krf139 said: Everyone claimed Josh had no talent around him at Wyoming to justify his meh college stats, so nobody should be happy to bring in anyone he played with. Dig a little deeper on your research and the numbers Josh put up in his final year vs the year he was playing with these fringe NFL players he had NO NFL talent around him in that final year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 Meh... We need to get better, as Beane said at the EoS presser, we aren't an SB team. Resigning our own and fringe FAs doesn't do that either. Drafting 2 spots from the end of each round does not get us there either. Uninspiring... I get Philly wanted a 3 for Ertz, but perhaps we should have signed someone better than this stiff if we wanted an upgrade. I get it is 1 year, but he doesn't move the needle at all = worthless 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He might be. We'll see. He earned $3.2M with the Seasnakes last year - they gave him a second-round tender! The way Beanes been dealing???? Probably 2.5m or less.. ...😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I think this is the key! The Bills used a ton of H Back block action with Knox and he struggled and could not use his athleticism. I think now you have a better H back (smith was not athletic enough to do this) and then when you want Knox - you can line him up more traditional TE role to allow the athletic nature come out. Knox becomes your new version of Ertz to threaten the defense. Hollister plays H back and slides out for catches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Logic said: 6’4”, 245 LBs. 27 years old. Played with Allen at Wyoming. As long as this isn’t the only move at tight end, I support it. He looks like a younger, cheaper Kroft replacement. Knox, Hollister, Sweeney isn’t enough. I hope they still try to acquire Ertz or draft a guy. All of you guys worrying about the TE position crack me up. Knox will take an Allen-like jump this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Meh... We need to get better, as Beane said at the EoS presser, we aren't an SB team. Resigning our own and fringe FAs doesn't do that either. Drafting 2 spots from the end of each round does not get us there either. Uninspiring... I get Philly wanted a 3 for Ertz, but perhaps we should have signed someone better than this stiff if we wanted an upgrade. I get it is 1 year, but he doesn't move the needle at all = worthless Might be onto the draft .....TE Day 2 option Edited March 19, 2021 by Aussie Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Logic said: 6’4”, 245 LBs. 27 years old. Played with Allen at Wyoming. As long as this isn’t the only move at tight end, I support it. He looks like a younger, cheaper Kroft replacement. Knox, Hollister, Sweeney isn’t enough. I hope they still try to acquire Ertz or draft a guy. Knox, Hollister, Gilliam, Sweeney is a full room. It might not be as dynamic as we'd like, but it's a full room and a decent room. Probably a bit better than last year. Need to add a dynamic speed weapon somewhere, whether it's at RB, WR, or TE. And we need McKenzie back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxcar Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, PRBills said: Kind of the point i was trying to make. All around a good pickup Oh, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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