Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Seems like it’s all about getting the band back together again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 35 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: At this point I’m of the opinion that his end of year press conference was a giant smokescreen. So now I’m expecting a new RB and Dawson Knox at TE1 I mean its the only thing that makes sense now yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I have said it in the shoutbox tonight I think Singletary getting traded is pretty likely. A throw away end of day 3 pick OR, maybe more likely, a player who has flamed out somewhere else and is a possible cut in a player for player deal. Boy, I guess that I think that Singletary is better than that, but I have been disappointed with his hands in the passing game. If they dump Singletary like you suggest, who is playing RB besides Moss? Do you think they are in the market for a RB in the draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: What do you call "a lot"? The Bills ran 1,2 sets 10% 2019 (104 plays) and 8% 2020 (91 plays). So it seems we're talking about 13 plays? Ran 1,3 sets 4% in 2019 (43 plays) and 3% in 2020 (36 plays). So we're talking about 7 plays? (Sharp Football Stats) If the QB operates best out of a spread, how come the vast majority of the time the Bills ran 1,1 sets (3 WR)? Over 70% of the time. Only 15% of the time in the 4 WR spread "your QB operates best out of" doesn't sound very wise. The majority of the time last year and this year, the Bills were operating out of a 1,1 set with 1 TE and 1 RB. And the run/pass split was very similar. We did run more 2,2 last year with Pat Dimarco, and basically none this year with Gilliam, and we overwhelmingly ran out of that set. I could be wrong, but I think most of the difference was 1) emphasis in preseason and practice 2) churn on OL Maybe. But he was so underrated that the Bengals put him on their practice squad and have not yet re-signed him, so apparently two teams of NFL OL evaluators don't see it. Yes you are right we ran a lot of 11 personnel that is our base, we ran a lot of trips but we.also had one of the highest (if not the highest?) 4 and 5 wide numbers in the league. I didn't explain myself very well but what I mean is Buffalo are a team whose preference is to spread the field rather than constrict it. That is when Josh feels more comfortable. 11 is their base but when they get out of 11 it is to get more receivers on the field not more big guys. Thank you for the comparison to the 2019 numbers. I confess my instinct would have been that the difference on heavy personnel groupings would have been bigger between the two years. We didn't get to a lot of 11 personnel in 2019 until after the Cleveland game and then we used it very heavily after that. My memory from the early weeks of 2019 is a lot of 12 and 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 23 hours ago, BillsMafi$ said: Bringing back the same o-line means the Bills DGAF about the running game. Which I love Which means you DGAF about getting to and winning the SB. Not going to get there with the same terrible run game as last year; not my opinion as both Beane and Mcd have said that and they emphasized run must improve. So good news for 2 Nd year together for the line, yet we will see if that’s enough to improve and not just stand in place. Big needs are still EDGE, CB2, TE, and based on draft visits , perhaps RB. Joe Miller quoted John Fina as saying run issues were scheme oriented ( funny i asked Fina same on Twitter and he claimed he was Swiss and couldn’t comment,Miller must have pressed harder and they may be doing podcast work together. Fina is really courteous on Twitter and yesterday was his BD BTW). so line looks intact and we need to hope something changes. With an entire offseason of film, our O will be analyzed so I can’t see us passing 90% with continued success. TB and Kc both have adequate run games, so no doubt we need work. Just because same interior guys are back doesn’t mean they start or that we don’t add a good guard during the draft. So great work by Beane to tread water so far, but many other teams ( esp in our division) have lots of money to be active and improve. Still hope we make a couple of moves in FA, with edge, guard, cb2, on my priority wish list. Rb wise I am ok with Williams ,motor, moss , but would add a late pick (4 th or later) for someone like trey sermon from OSU with breakaway speed. Good stuff by Beane, but treading water is ok if we are satisfied with last years results. We have to fix pass rush and run game to be serious SB TITLE contenders. Addendum; I agree I didn’t state this well. After listening to mongo, it is a good thing they all resigned and I was ignoring how they only played 5 games together because of all the injuries last year. So it’s more than treading water and it is good stability. Let’s see if the coaching can help correct scheme issues like Fina mentioned. I still stick by the idea our coordinators must be more creative. Pats got a good te already and added to their rush with Judon. They are the ones saying it starts by stopping Josh, and they obviously know we can’t cover TEs well. The signings are great continuity , yet it still is no guarantee they all still start. We let go of one extended lineman pretty quickly last year, so just signing doesn’t mean the o line work is done. I stick by the review of the all 22 film work by cover 1 who showed terrible run blocking by the guards and even Williams at times. We will still have to have some improved run gsme over last year ) to win he SB ( Beane said we were not good enough to win it last year, quoted with link in another topic). Need a better run game to take advantage of Josh’s great play action ability. Great work so far by beane but I can’t believe this is all we need to get back to last years success. Just don’t see a one dimensional offense ( running less than 5x a game) or a d where the front 4 is horrible causing pressure alone , getting past kc or th if we get that far. Am I that wrong ? Edited March 15, 2021 by DrPJax 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: Oh I would not be any where near done with this line. I am not liking how it got beat hard on running downs which makes me think one of too things are going to happen. \ 1. We pick up a bruising RB in FA or Draft OR we hit Oline hard in draft... OT in round one, Edge round two and Guard round 3. Our QB can not be the best runner on the team and think we will be Dynamic or even more Dynamic next year. I have the feeling of rinse repeat when I want rinse better. I am not sold. Period. Unless we have a top end BRUISING RB on this team that can go out there and get his own yards.. darn.. Please someone tell me I am wrong and why? We cant tell you that you are wrong until we see what actually happens in the draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 hour ago, singlezero said: All the talk of bringing back the same team with no improvements close to the salary cap . Over half the teams out there are going to have to strip release or trade half their players to get under the cap. Very solid job in what is a most unique year. Not to mention the value of Culture that is being heard around the NFL going forward. You're a double spacer . I kinda like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Man i think it was a smoke screen too. Lol this dudes always a few steps ahead. I cant imagine having the sharpness to send a misdirection that "early" on, but thats why hes Beane and im a fan I was at work calling Smoke screen on this one to about TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: Boy, I guess that I think that Singletary is better than that, but I have been disappointed with his hands in the passing game. If they dump Singletary like you suggest, who is playing RB besides Moss? Do you think they are in the market for a RB in the draft? T J Yeldon would be nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: But its all about the last game .. if your are the Bills.. apparently we can excuse the stinker the Chiefs had in their last game.. Bills are a team on the come. We have flaws, they were exposed by KC. The O-line will be better next season with a hard running back and a dependable TE. I like our offense if these 2 positions are addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 1 minute ago, OldTimer1960 said: Boy, I guess that I think that Singletary is better than that, but I have been disappointed with his hands in the passing game. If they dump Singletary like you suggest, who is playing RB besides Moss? Do you think they are in the market for a RB in the draft? Yes. Not early, but somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvlevydraftdaygenius Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Too bad Beane was not around when the Bills lost Wofford and Ballard. Because I think History would have be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: The run blocking can't be the only problem when a guy like Singletary, who's not fast, doesn't hit holes or break tackles. When Moss played, the run attack was better,but the Bills went empty most of the time because they knew they couldn't run it. By the way, were you not entertained by Josh sitting and having a sandwich ,perusing the field and picking apart teams in the 8 games in a row they beat good D-lines. Who said the OL was the only problem? yeah....I enjoyed those games. Winning regular season games don’t matter too much to me with this team. I want to win the super bowl. I don’t think we’ll win the super bowl with a similar run game as last season. I said it all year....we’ll lose in the playoffs unless we can get out run game going. We didn’t. The team that beat us didn’t think twice about us running the ball....and that’s why we lost imo Edited March 14, 2021 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Oh I would not be any where near done with this line. I am not liking how it got beat hard on running downs which makes me think one of too things are going to happen. \ 1. We pick up a bruising RB in FA or Draft OR we hit Oline hard in draft... OT in round one, Edge round two and Guard round 3. Our QB can not be the best runner on the team and think we will be Dynamic or even more Dynamic next year. I have the feeling of rinse repeat when I want rinse better. I am not sold. Period. Unless we have a top end BRUISING RB on this team that can go out there and get his own yards.. darn.. Please someone tell me I am wrong and why? Even bruising RBs need some blocking to get a head of steam up. If the plan is to find a power back to fight for a yard after being hit 2 yards behind the LOS, then I don’t agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just now, Eastport bills said: Bills are a team on the come. We have flaws, they were exposed by KC. The O-line will be better next season with a hard running back and a dependable TE. I like our offense if these 2 positions are addressed. And a DE.. but Im not so confident they are going to address that now in FA.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fixxxer Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) great move, good lockeroom guy and good depth player on the OL. Beane does it again. Edited March 14, 2021 by Fixxxer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: Oh I would not be any where near done with this line. I am not liking how it got beat hard on running downs which makes me think one of too things are going to happen. \ 1. We pick up a bruising RB in FA or Draft OR we hit Oline hard in draft... OT in round one, Edge round two and Guard round 3. Our QB can not be the best runner on the team and think we will be Dynamic or even more Dynamic next year. I have the feeling of rinse repeat when I want rinse better. I am not sold. Period. Unless we have a top end BRUISING RB on this team that can go out there and get his own yards.. darn.. Please someone tell me I am wrong and why? What we need at running back is speed more than a bruiser. We need a guy who accelerates and hits the hole fast. 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 Just now, GunnerBill said: Yes. Not early, but somewhere. I guess, but if Singletary played well as a rookie and not last year, what was the reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 With the cap likely jumping significantly next year with the new TV deals + fans back, Beane has a lot of restructure opportunities to free up more cap space. My dream remaining off-season and it is possible: Re-sign McKenzie and a bojorquez UFA signings on Covid deals CB: Richard Sherman TE: Hunter Henry DE: Yannick Ngakoue pick 30: Ettiene falls to us pick 62: if anything close to the above happens I don’t care 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 14, 2021 Share Posted March 14, 2021 52 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Are you expecting more pin and pull next year? I for one hope so, mainly because it worked quite well, jmo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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