Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 9 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Well, they made it through three reductions in Morse, Butler, and Addison, but I haven’t seen any restructures yet (kicking the can down the road). It’s not Beane’s MO especially as he had to clean up the mess he inherited. I’m guessing he may ask for one or two more reductions before it’s over. As of now, we have $10.1 mil. In space, but Spotrac projects we need $6 mil. for the draft. Many teams like $5 mil. for an emergency fund for injuries during the year, so it’s a matter of waiting to see if there are any restructures, reductions or releases before we can consider any other acquisitions. Spotrac projection of $6M for the draft is silly as far as I know. Maybe $2M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Spotrac projection of $6M for the draft is silly as far as I know. Maybe $2M I think they just give an estimation on what it will cost to sign the entire class. Not factoring in top 51 on teams rosters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyndonvilleBill Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, CaptnCoke11 said: I think they just give an estimation on what it will cost to sign the entire class. Not factoring in top 51 on teams rosters. ColoradoBills did a GREAT breakdown up thread. I reccomend reading it for all that ask about the cost of draft picks against the cap.. Very nice and simple to understand it broken down the way he did it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: Well, they made it through three reductions in Morse, Butler, and Addison, but I haven’t seen any restructures yet (kicking the can down the road). It’s not Beane’s MO especially as he had to clean up the mess he inherited. I’m guessing he may ask for one or two more reductions before it’s over. As of now, we have $10.1 mil. In space, but Spotrac projects we need $6 mil. for the draft. Many teams like $5 mil. for an emergency fund for injuries during the year, so it’s a matter of waiting to see if there are any restructures, reductions or releases before we can consider any other acquisitions. Also, this year is a bit extraordinary so I don't think we can 100% go by what Beane would ordinarily do. We also need a punter and a punt/kickoff return guy I don't think Beane is gonna wait on restructures, reductions, or releases before he considers other acquisitions. But I also think he knows who he thinks might add value and what he's willing to pay for them, and he won't get "auction fever" and exceed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Hap man I actually hope you’re right. I’d love just one addition. I’m expecting role players after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Also, this year is a bit extraordinary so I don't think we can 100% go by what Beane would ordinarily do. We also need a punter and a punt/kickoff return guy I don't think Beane is gonna wait on restructures, reductions, or releases before he considers other acquisitions. But I also think he knows who he thinks might add value and what he's willing to pay for them, and he won't get "auction fever" and exceed that. I've noticed in the pass that some GMs don't do the restructures until they sign the guy they want. Kind of pay as you go. Plus not having all the cap space maybe helps a little in negotiations with the players agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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78thealltimegreat Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Spotrac projection of $6M for the draft is silly as far as I know. Maybe $2M Agreed a simple trade back into the second round to pick up an extra 3rd or 4th and our cap dollars needed drops a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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transplantbillsfan Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Spotrac projection of $6M for the draft is silly as far as I know. Maybe $2M There was an Athletic article with a great Cap breakdown I read a week or 2 ago by Joe B or Fairburn that analyzed our needed Cap space for our draftees and factored in the top 51 on the team and everything and I want to say the number they came up with was $2.5 million. I know it was no more than $3 million. 1 hour ago, Reed83HOF said: Is this before or after the Lee Smith trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: There was an Athletic article with a great Cap breakdown I read a week or 2 ago by Joe B or Fairburn that analyzed our needed Cap space for our draftees and factored in the top 51 on the team and everything and I want to say the number they came up with was $2.5 million. I know it was no more than $3 million. Is this before or after the Lee Smith trade? Based on the timing, after Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Reed83HOF said: Haack - $1.575M Sanders - $6M Feliciano - $5M (1st year hit should be this or a little less) Total: $12.575M Less displacing (Becker-660k, Love-780k, Cam Lewis-780k Total Top 51 Cap Hit - $10.355M Bills Current Cap: $10.618M Beane is all square going into tomorrow from everything I have seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 6 hours ago, LyndonvilleBill said: ColoradoBills did a GREAT breakdown up thread. I reccomend reading it for all that ask about the cost of draft picks against the cap.. Very nice and simple to understand it broken down the way he did it.... Whereabouts up thread? If you don't mind providing directions, kind sir... Turns out working a 16-hour day has me WELL behind in my Bills FA news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: Whereabouts up thread? If you don't mind providing directions, kind sir... Turns out working a 16-hour day has me WELL behind in my Bills FA news... On 3/13/2021 at 2:50 PM, ColoradoBills said: I'll "show my work" about the Bills Draft Pick cost concerning the Top 51 Cap is as follows: Every pick that is signed "displaces" a current player already being counted against the cap. Currently those players are making at least $780,000. Round 1, Pick #30--------$2,021,038 minus $780,000 equals $1,241,038 Round 2, Pick #61--------$1,000,327 minus $780,000 equals $220,327 Round 3, Pick #93--------$865,515 minus $780,000 equals $85,515 Round 5, Pick #161--------$734,059 will not count Round 5, Pick #174--------$724,218 will not count Round 6, Pick #211--------$696,650 will not count Projected Draft Pool: $6,041,807 Top 51 resulting cap hit: $1,546,880. To add one thing. The 5th and 6th rounders will carry a small hit even though they are not in the Top 51. It comes from their 1st year share of signing bonus. So you need to add probably another 125k to my total. But, by the time they are signed the $780k displacement should be a little higher. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 So I'm expecting to hear they converted some salary into bonuses today. Make a quick $12-13 million in cap space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: So I'm expecting to hear they converted some salary into bonuses today. Make a quick $12-13 million in cap space. I don’t see that happening. Allen and Diggs will need new contracts soon and i bet Beane doesn’t want to restructure contracts now and push that money into future years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I don’t see that happening. Allen and Diggs will need new contracts soon and i bet Beane doesn’t want to restructure contracts now and push that money into future years. It's not much of a increase. Won't affect either extension. I'll also add with players like Dawkins and White you can continue to create room. They'll hopefully be here a while. Edited March 17, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcdermott Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 17 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Spotrac projection of $6M for the draft is silly as far as I know. Maybe $2M If you read the fine print, Spotrac tells you to subtract 660K times the number of picks from the $6M pool because of 51 roster displacement so the correct number is around $2.2M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 48 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: I don’t see that happening. Allen and Diggs will need new contracts soon and i bet Beane doesn’t want to restructure contracts now and push that money into future years. Agreed, but I still think he will do so if there is a good reason. Like Mack or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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