Scout Report Jaelan Phillips Edge Miami

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1 minute ago, NewEra said:

No....his burst and athleticism is not better than Phillips.  Not sure why you would say that.  Basham reminds me of Shaq

He’s not as explosive as Phillips. 

It’s all good my friend. I get grief for saying it. I’m not going to change my mind 100 times between now and draft day. Boogie is my guy and I’m sticking to it. I expect him to perform big at the Combine. Will rise.

 

Obviously I absolutely love Owusu and Collins as well and a strong case can be made for Najee Harris also if you look at it from a certain POV. That’s about where I’m at right now. Hoping for a stud OL somewhere in the second.. Maybe Creed Humphrey, maybe Liam Eichenberg, we’ll see.

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

No....his burst and athleticism is not better than Phillips.  Not sure why you would say that.  Basham reminds me of Shaq

He’s not as explosive as Phillips. 

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/carlos-basham-jr-nfl-draft-player-profile-wake-forest-edge-rusher/

Basham’s main mode of success is his mix of IQ, power, and leverage, but against bigger blockers who match his power, he doesn’t have enough athletic freedom to get an edge. Basham was dominated by Clemson tackle Jackson Carman this season. NFL tackles are more consistent with their size and power, so Basham could have trouble at the next level. His foundation gives him a solid floor, but he may never be an impact pass rusher.

 

Basham is a big end. Can play 7 tech. I have him earlier than I think his talent deserves in my first two round mock coming tomorrow (plug central) because of scheme fit. 

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3 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Basham is a big end. Can play 7 tech. I have him earlier than I think his talent deserves in my first two round mock coming tomorrow (plug central) because of scheme fit. 

@GunnerBill

@NewEra

 

It’s all good. All I ask is that you guys show me some love after Boogie rises up boards after the Combine or after the Bills draft him! 😆

[GunnerBill]

5 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

@GunnerBill

@NewEra

 

It’s all good. All I ask is that you guys show me some love after Boogie rises up boards after the Combine or after the Bills draft him! 😆

 

I think you will be surprised how high I have him going tomorrow.

[NewEra]

22 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

It’s all good my friend. I get grief for saying it. I’m not going to change my mind 100 times between now and draft day. Boogie is my guy and I’m sticking to it. I expect him to perform big at the Combine. Will rise.

 

Obviously I absolutely love Owusu and Collins as well and a strong case can be made for Najee Harris also if you look at it from a certain POV. That’s about where I’m at right now. Hoping for a stud OL somewhere in the second.. Maybe Creed Humphrey, maybe Liam Eichenberg, we’ll see.

Agreed.  I don’t hate Basham....I just t

Don’t think he’s on the same level as Phillips athletically.  
 

👍🏻owusu and Collins.  Love both guys for sure.  Even Harris.  We may not like the Harris pick as much in 5 years, but if he helps us win a SB, it’ll be all worth it.

17 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

@GunnerBill

@NewEra

 

It’s all good. All I ask is that you guys show me some love after Boogie rises up boards after the Combine or after the Bills draft him! 😆

For sure.  I like Basham....I just don’t see the explosion that you see.....yet.  Might happen 

[PrimeTime101]

3 hours ago, NewEra said:

Agreed.  I don’t hate Basham....I just t

Don’t think he’s on the same level as Phillips athletically.  
 

👍🏻owusu and Collins.  Love both guys for sure.  Even Harris.  We may not like the Harris pick as much in 5 years, but if he helps us win a SB, it’ll be all worth it.

For sure.  I like Basham....I just don’t see the explosion that you see.....yet.  Might happen 

Just to make everyone happy, tomorrow I will do a Basham Scouting report.. or maybe tonight... There is a ton of info out of him... I will do my best to put it all together... I dont mind Basham... Just not at 30

[PrimeTime101]

Just now, LABILLBACKER said:

Saw every snap of him at UCLA. He is quick off the ball but he just fails to eventually get to the qb. Not impressive at UCLA. I'd much rather have Basham in the 2nd to develop with AJE....just me. I still think we should spend the money on a 25 yr old Ngakoue. 

2 key things... 

 

Second round

 

and Develop. We need an Edge that needs to make impact day one. I am not even saying this is the guy I did in this thread is it... I just know this team does not have the time to develop anyone.

 

Also

 

You cant compare what he did in UCLA compared to what he did in Miami. 2 different beasts. 

 

Again... This was just a scout report and I am just reporting on the player we are talking in front of me... I don't love or hate the guy

[LABILLBACKER]

5 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

2 key things... 

 

Second round

 

and Develop. We need an Edge that needs to make impact day one. I am not even saying this is the guy I did in this thread is it... I just know this team does not have the time to develop anyone.

 

Also

 

You cant compare what he did in UCLA compared to what he did in Miami. 2 different beasts. 

 

Again... This was just a scout report and I am just reporting on the player we are talking in front of me... I don't love or hate the guy

Just one little problem. We're not drafting in the top 20 and there won't be any plug n play edge rushers that will make an impact Immediately at 30. That's just realism, not a projection. Jerry has maybe 1 year left in the tank. Murphy and Addison will be gone. So realistically we'll need to do exactly what we did with Diggs. Go out in FA and get an already established young value DE. I feel that guy would be Ngakoue. I like Basham's motor over Phillips. But both players would require the same time to develop as Epenesa. The few pass rushers that wouldn't require development will already be off the board. 

[PrimeTime101]

6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Just one little problem. We're not drafting in the top 20 and there won't be any plug n play edge rushers that will make an impact Immediately at 30. That's just realism, not a projection. Jerry has maybe 1 year left in the tank. Murphy and Addison will be gone. So realistically we'll need to do exactly what we did with Diggs. Go out in FA and get an already established young value DE. I feel that guy would be Ngakoue. I like Basham's motor over Phillips. But both players would require the same time to develop as Epenesa. The few pass rushers that wouldn't require development will already be off the board. 

As I have said... how many times I got to repeat this in this thread.... I am not saying we should or should not... He is more ready then someone labeled a project... lets move on from this yes?

[NewEra]

13 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Just one little problem. We're not drafting in the top 20 and there won't be any plug n play edge rushers that will make an impact Immediately at 30. That's just realism, not a projection. Jerry has maybe 1 year left in the tank. Murphy and Addison will be gone. So realistically we'll need to do exactly what we did with Diggs. Go out in FA and get an already established young value DE. I feel that guy would be Ngakoue. I like Basham's motor over Phillips. But both players would require the same time to develop as Epenesa. The few pass rushers that wouldn't require development will already be off the board. 

All of these pass rushers will require time imo.  Paye is probably the most impressive to me, but he’s has a lot of work to do too.

 

I’ll take Patrick Jones over all of them long term.  Love that guy.  But I don’t think he’s an instant impact player either 

54 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

Just to make everyone happy, tomorrow I will do a Basham Scouting report.. or maybe tonight... There is a ton of info out of him... I will do my best to put it all together... I dont mind Basham... Just not at 30

Just wondering why you didn’t mention Phillips injuries and “retirement” in your phillips scouting report.  
 

it’s really his biggest “con” imo.

[LABILLBACKER]

12 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

As I have said... how many times I got to repeat this in this thread.... I am not saying we should or should not... He is more ready then someone labeled a project... lets move on from this yes?

Gee isn't the point of a scouting report to have discussion on whether we "should or shouldn't" consider him. Sorry Prime, I guess I missed you sitting next to me at the Rose Bowl watching Jaelan struggle.

[PrimeTime101]

15 minutes ago, NewEra said:

All of these pass rushers will require time imo.  Paye is probably the most impressive to me, but he’s has a lot of work to do too.

 

I’ll take Patrick Jones over all of them long term.  Love that guy.  But I don’t think he’s an instant impact player either 

Just wondering why you didn’t mention Phillips injuries and “retirement” in your phillips scouting report.  
 

it’s really his biggest “con” imo.

good question NewEra

1. He is cleared by a Dr. 

2. One of them was kind of freak accident.

3. You cant predict if a player will be injury prone based on college level. Some are drafted Injured a lot and rarely get injured again. The only way an Injury goes on a report is if the injury recovery is on going. 

2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Gee isn't the point of a scouting report to have discussion on whether we "should or shouldn't" consider him. Sorry Prime, I guess I missed you sitting next to me at the Rose Bowl watching Jaelan struggle.

It is but people acting like I absolutely want this player. Many others do... I did this scouting report to be discussed weather it should be an option or not.. Not weather Absolutely he should be or shouldn't be picked

[NewEra]

29 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

good question NewEra

1. He is cleared by a Dr. 

2. One of them was kind of freak accident.

3. You cant predict if a player will be injury prone based on college level. Some are drafted Injured a lot and rarely get injured again. The only way an Injury goes on a report is if the injury recovery is on going. 

It is but people acting like I absolutely want this player. Many others do... I did this scouting report to be discussed weather it should be an option or not.. Not weather Absolutely he should be or shouldn't be picked

I hear ya....on my scouting report of Phillips, injuries were #1 on the list and was didn’t understand why you wasn’t included.  
 

ankles and wrist injuries are random.  I agree. The concussion scares me though.  Then again, I remember thinking Edmunds’ career might be over after he got plowed by devito

[LABILLBACKER]

Prime no one is accusing you of "absolutely" wanting this player or not. You did this thread to be discussed and that's exactly what I'm doing. I've had a little more of an advantage over most Bills fans to have seen Phillips play at UCLA. And in my very humble "opinion" I think there are better options. 

[PrimeTime101]

43 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I hear ya....on my scouting report of Phillips, injuries were #1 on the list and was didn’t understand why you wasn’t included.  
 

ankles and wrist injuries are random.  I agree. The concussion scares me though.  Then again, I remember thinking Edmunds’ career might be over after he got plowed by devito

yep but it didn't..  50% never get drafted if GM's and Coaches got over worked up on injuries.  Concussion scared him hard.. he grew from it.

[GunnerBill]

5 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Just one little problem. We're not drafting in the top 20 and there won't be any plug n play edge rushers that will make an impact Immediately at 30. That's just realism, not a projection. Jerry has maybe 1 year left in the tank. Murphy and Addison will be gone. So realistically we'll need to do exactly what we did with Diggs. Go out in FA and get an already established young value DE. I feel that guy would be Ngakoue. I like Basham's motor over Phillips. But both players would require the same time to develop as Epenesa. The few pass rushers that wouldn't require development will already be off the board. 

 

To the bolded that is if you believe they are on the board to start with. I'm not sure I believe there are any slam dunk year 1 difference makers at Edge in this class. There is a nice crop of interesting guys but as of now (halfway through) don't have a true 1st on any of them. 

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10 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Just one little problem. We're not drafting in the top 20 and there won't be any plug n play edge rushers that will make an impact Immediately at 30. That's just realism, not a projection. Jerry has maybe 1 year left in the tank. Murphy and Addison will be gone. So realistically we'll need to do exactly what we did with Diggs. Go out in FA and get an already established young value DE. I feel that guy would be Ngakoue. I like Basham's motor over Phillips. But both players would require the same time to develop as Epenesa. The few pass rushers that wouldn't require development will already be off the board. 

 

The more I think about it, addressing the D (pass rush) through FA is the best quickest for immediate impact. Beane's focus, as I see it, will be improving the front 7.

 

Deciding who stays/goes and working the cap is the challenge. I expect changes along this front 7. 

 

Draft wise - IOL and impactful skill position selections should be his focus. Supply Josh with the tools/protection to help him and the offense continue to evolve.

[SoCal Deek]

9 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Prime no one is accusing you of "absolutely" wanting this player or not. You did this thread to be discussed and that's exactly what I'm doing. I've had a little more of an advantage over most Bills fans to have seen Phillips play at UCLA. And in my very humble "opinion" I think there are better options. 

UCLA? Is that still a place? Fight On! 😉

[Green Lightning]

Concussions are a big concern.  The OTs he'll be banging with in the NFL are big, fast and nastyand it's every week.. 

[4BillsintheBurgh]

22 hours ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

The injuries don’t scare you on a guy that retired from college due to concussions?  Huge Con and major Red Flag.

 

The guy has played in 20 games over the last 5 years and most of them at a different position.  Huge con and Red Flag.

 

One year wonder at DE and has injury concerns - looks to be about Epensa level with maybe a bit more speed, but his hands aren’t as good and he has done it for significantly less time than AJ. 

 

I feel about him like AJ - if he falls to us after trading into the 2nd - then fine, but I am not sure with his age and his health concerns he is worthy of a 1st round pick with a potential 5th year option.  Just don’t see him lasting in the NFL.

I'm getting Maybin flashbacks with this guy. I don't see many pass rush moves, just speed and excellent recognition. If he really wants to play football and he gets some power in his game and learns pass rush moves as well as counter moves then he will be able to use the athleticism he has. You might get a good/great impact player by his third year. That might work for us given Hughes and Addison, but I think it would be a daunting task for him to be an every down player in the NFL next year.

[gobills404]

7 minutes ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

I'm getting Maybin flashbacks with this guy. I don't see many pass rush moves, just speed and excellent recognition. If he really wants to play football and he gets some power in his game and learns pass rush moves as well as counter moves then he will be able to use the athleticism he has. You might get a good/great impact player by his third year. That might work for us given Hughes and Addison, but I think it would be a daunting task for him to be an every down player in the NFL next year.

 

[RyanC883]

23 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

He played for UCLA as a freshman, retired from football after suffering a concussion as a sophomore, transferred to Miami and sat out a season, then played 1 year at DE?

 

So he's played 1 full season, and one season at DE, after playing 4 games as a freshman and 6 games as a sophomore?

 

Anything is possible but I'd kind of like to see a guy with more playing experience

 

agree.  DE takes a while, and we need instant impact.  I’d get 2 de in FA and get 1 tech DT in the draft.  unless a value DE is there later on as a project type.  But we do not have the time for a 1st round project IMo.  

[LABILLBACKER]

5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

UCLA? Is that still a place? Fight On! 😉

SC is hardly the football power it used to be. The Pac12 is an embarrassment and most decent recruits go to the SEC anyway. 

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, 4BillsintheBurgh said:

I'm getting Maybin flashbacks with this guy. I don't see many pass rush moves, just speed and excellent recognition. If he really wants to play football and he gets some power in his game and learns pass rush moves as well as counter moves then he will be able to use the athleticism he has. You might get a good/great impact player by his third year. That might work for us given Hughes and Addison, but I think it would be a daunting task for him to be an every down player in the NFL next year.

The Maybin comparison is somewhat accurate. Especially if you saw his first 2 injury filled seasons. He might develop after 2-3 years but it's highly doubtful you get much in year 1.  I personally would rather see Beane spend every FA penny on the front 4. He's going to have to correct the mistakes he made on players like Addison, Murphy, Jefferson and Butler. That was not money well spent. 

[GunnerBill]

46 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

The Maybin comparison is somewhat accurate. Especially if you saw his first 2 injury filled seasons. He might develop after 2-3 years but it's highly doubtful you get much in year 1.  I personally would rather see Beane spend every FA penny on the front 4. He's going to have to correct the mistakes he made on players like Addison, Murphy, Jefferson and Butler. That was not money well spent. 

 

Agree on edge, particularly. I would like to see them target a 1 tech somewhere in the mid rounds. Maybe with one of their 5th rounders? You can find decent 1 techs in that part of the draft. 

[Aussie Joe]

50 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I would like to see them target a 1 tech somewhere in the mid rounds. Maybe with one of their 5th rounders? You can find decent 1 techs in that part of the draft. 

 

I think they have got one more year of Star left ( provided he doesnt opt out again..) so I would like them to take one as well this year to learn and be ready to start  next year all going well..

 

It doesnt seem like a lot of options though in the mid rounds..  Alim McNeil and Tyler Shelvin would need to be picked at the end of the third and then a couple of later day 3 options I am looking into are Bobby Brown III and Naquan Jones.. you like any of those guys? 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:

 

I think they have got one more year of Star left ( provided he doesnt opt out again..) so I would like them to take one as well this year to learn and be ready to start  next year all going well..

 

It doesnt seem like a lot of options though in the mid rounds..  Alim McNeil and Tyler Shelvin would need to be picked at the end of the third and then a couple of later day 3 options I am looking into are Bobby Brown III and Naquan Jones.. you like any of those guys? 

 

 

 

McNeil, Shelvin and throw Stills into that group too are all late day 2 or early day 3 for me. Think I have a 3rd on Stills and high 4ths on the other two. Us not having a 4th round pick might hurt. 

 

Not going to pretend I have got deep enough into the class to have a strong view on Brown and Jones wasn't even on my list of guys to get to haha so you are way ahead of me there

[Aussie Joe]

5 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

McNeil, Shelvin and throw Stills into that group too are all late day 2 or early day 3 for me. Think I have a 3rd on Stills and high 4ths on the other two. Us not having a 4th round pick might hurt. 

 

 

 

Do you like Shelvin?

 

I like my DT's big and ugly but I'm almost worried he is too fat...

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Aussie Joe said:

 

Do you like Shelvin?

 

I like my DT's big and ugly but I'm almost worried he is too fat...

 

Haha. He is a big boy. I think he is strictly a 2 down player. You get 1 techs who can stay on the field on 3rd and mediums he can't. What I like his hands. Those who have read my stuff before will know I love a defensive lineman who knows how to use his hands and I think Shelvin is very good at it. As I say 4th rounder so I like him a bit but he has a specific role. He would be a beast in short yardage because he isn't just huge he will get his hands on a blocker early win the down.

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Agree on edge, particularly. I would like to see them target a 1 tech somewhere in the mid rounds. Maybe with one of their 5th rounders? You can find decent 1 techs in that part of the draft. 

Completely agree. That's why I'd like to see us trade out of the 30 spot. Pick up an extra 2nd and a 4th. Use that 4th pick on a 1T. Our pass rush help will come from FA.

[4BillsintheBurgh]

6 hours ago, gobills404 said:

 

Thanks, that has a few more moves. It will be interesting to see what happens with him. Do you know if he happened to play against any top rated OT's?

[GunnerBill]

I've watched the UNC game this morning after @BADOLBILZ recommended it last week as a game that displayed Phillips's weaknesses. What I saw was a team who really schemed against his aggression nicely and exposed, both with delayed hand offs and open passing lanes, some of the areas where Phillips lacked a bit of discipline. There are still some plays in the game where he gets decent push but they did a good job overall and I must say I came away quite impressed with Tucker the UNC right tackle. No idea what his projection is for the NFL. He is a senior next year. Not his best game for sure. 

[NewEra]

17 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

The Maybin comparison is somewhat accurate. Especially if you saw his first 2 injury filled seasons. He might develop after 2-3 years but it's highly doubtful you get much in year 1.  I personally would rather see Beane spend every FA penny on the front 4. He's going to have to correct the mistakes he made on players like Addison, Murphy, Jefferson and Butler. That was not money well spent. 

The only Maybin comparisons that hold any truth are the fact that both were good for one season, have plus first steps and are pass rushers.

 

 

Maybin played around 225lbs in college and couldn’t hold the edge at all.  Everyone was HOPING that he could put on 30-40 LBs in order to play the edge. Phillips is 6’5 265 already.  He can get after the QB and hold the edge.  The only thing people are hoping for regarding Phillips becoming a good pro, is his health
 

Maybin vs Phillips is a poor comparison

[NewEra]

19 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

I've watched the UNC game this morning after @BADOLBILZ recommended it last week as a game that displayed Phillips's weaknesses. What I saw was a team who really schemed against his aggression nicely and exposed, both with delayed hand offs and open passing lanes, some of the areas where Phillips lacked a bit of discipline. There are still some plays in the game where he gets decent push but they did a good job overall and I must say I came away quite impressed with Tucker the UNC right tackle. No idea what his projection is for the NFL. He is a senior next year. Not his best game for sure. 

I’m not sure if it was @BADOLBILZor not, but several tbd members said the same thing about Von Miller vs Nebraska.  He got destroyed and had a terrible game playing against a middling LT.  
 

I’ll say now, what I said then. One college game doesn’t make an NFL prospects career in the nfl.  It never has.  It never will. One game can be used to highlight what a player needs to work on and also what a player excels at. 
 

I couldn’t find the whole game, but here are some snippets. 

 

[GunnerBill]

38 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I’m not sure if it was @BADOLBILZor not, but several tbd members said the same thing about Von Miller vs Nebraska.  He got destroyed and had a terrible game playing against a middling LT.  
 

I’ll say now, what I said then. One college game doesn’t make an NFL prospects career in the nfl.  It never has.  It never will. One game can be used to highlight what a player needs to work on and also what a player excels at. 
 

I couldn’t find the whole game, but here are some snippets. 

 

 

Indeed. It was not Phillips's best game but it wasn't a "woah man, drop him right down your board" game. 

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, NewEra said:

I’m not sure if it was @BADOLBILZor not, but several tbd members said the same thing about Von Miller vs Nebraska.  He got destroyed and had a terrible game playing against a middling LT.  
 

I’ll say now, what I said then. One college game doesn’t make an NFL prospects career in the nfl.  It never has.  It never will. One game can be used to highlight what a player needs to work on and also what a player excels at. 
 

I couldn’t find the whole game, but here are some snippets. 

 

 

 

 

Nearly retiring due to lingering concussion issues is what should push him down the board.     The poor play in that UNC game is just a reminder that the floor is very low on that prospect.   One season of modest production and other past injuries are also checks against.   Von Miller was time-tested and healthy and not a full size defensive end.   I am all for taking chances on pass rushers but I watched every Miami game this season and was not impressed.    He's a developmental 22 year old prospect who I suspect would have a better chance of reaching his ceiling if drafted in round 3 or 4 where he has some incentive to be the best he can be within the first 3 seasons of his contract.

[C.Biscuit97]

Love the dude’s talent but I don’t know how you could feel comfortable investing a high pick on him. That’s some scary stuff. I hope he makes it but I just would never feel great about it.

[BADOLBILZ]

46 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Indeed. It was not Phillips's best game but it wasn't a "woah man, drop him right down your board" game. 

 

 

You can poke holes in every individual check against Phillips.

 

Problem is.........there are A LOT of checks against.

 

He has potential but concussion, other injury, 3 years of no production and one year of just modest production since HS...........I think people are trying to Montez-Sweat the guy UP the board when he hasn't exactly ran up numbers for multiple years against an SEC schedule. 

 

[GunnerBill]

7 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

You can poke holes in every individual check against Phillips.

 

Problem is.........there are A LOT of checks against.

 

He has potential but concussion, other injury, 3 years of no production and one year of just modest production since HS...........I think people are trying to Montez-Sweat the guy UP the board when he hasn't exactly ran up numbers for multiple years against an SEC schedule. 

 

There are question marks. I don't think they are question marks that will not make much difference to the Bills - he will be gone before we pick I am pretty sure. 

 

For what it is worth I do not have a true 1st round grade on him even on just his tape having looked at him yesterday and this morning. I have him in my high second round bracket. 

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

Nearly retiring due to lingering concussion issues is what should push him down the board.     The poor play in that UNC game is just a reminder that the floor is very low on that prospect.   One season of modest production and other past injuries are also checks against.   Von Miller was time-tested and healthy and not a full size defensive end.   I am all for taking chances on pass rushers but I watched every Miami game this season and was not impressed.    He's a developmental 22 year old prospect who I suspect would have a better chance of reaching his ceiling if drafted in round 3 or 4 where he has some incentive to be the best he can be within the first 3 seasons of his contract.

I agree that the concussion will be why he’ll be pushed down the board.  I haven’t watched nearly as much of Phillips as you have, so i’ll defer to your assessment.  He certainly looks the part physically, but I have no clue how consistent he is in using it or how he mentally attacks the game and life in general. 

 

i brought up Von Miller because many were using the Nebraska game as to why he wouldn’t be successful.  Going up against and being plowed by a nobody LT.  I also remember people using a photo of several prospects, Vincent Jackson and Von Miller  included, as evidence of how small he was and that being a reason why he wasn’t going to be good.  “Look how small he is”.  I still chuckle about that one.