[Name Only Title] Najee Harris

[Albany,n.y.]

2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

The lack of Running game isn’t the reason we lost to KC. 

Ummm we out rushed the chiefs. 

Not with our RBs, Josh Allen was responsible for the rushing yards because we were lining up garbage at RB.  Chiefs RBs outrushed Bills RBs 109-32.  

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Not with our RBs, Josh Allen was responsible for the rushing yards because we were lining up garbage at RB.  Chiefs RBs outrushed Bills RBs 109-32.  

We out rushed the chiefs. Don’t move the goal posts. BTW chiefs gains 52 yards on the Ground with their Running Backs. Oooo and it wasn’t their High pick either. Just another Journey Man RB. 
 

NEVER DRAFT AN EARLY RB. NEVER PAY BIG MONEY TO A RB. 

Edited January 26, 2021 by MAJBobby

[somnus00]

I'd prefer we go o-line before RB. Better run blocking will help any running back. My preference in this draft would be to trade down. 3 2nd round picks sounds better to me than pick 30 and pick 60.

 

Then take CB2, OL (guard or tackle depending on how we handle free agency), and athletic front 7 (DE or LB, again depending on what we do in free agency). Running back in the 3rd.

[Mat68]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

The lack of Running game isn’t the reason we lost to KC. 

Not having a plan B did.  I think Beanes presser will be telling. Mcdermott really only talking about the running game is something to follow.  Last year Beane and Mcdermott said they needed to score more points.  I think they need speed on defense.  Whether edge or Cb.  Imo the 30's is no mans land in most drafts trade back or pick a starter imo.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Mat68 said:

Not having a plan B did.  I think Beanes presser will be telling. Mcdermott really only talking about the running game is something to follow.  Last year Beane and Mcdermott said they needed to score more points.  I think they need speed on defense.  Whether edge or Cb.  Imo the 30's is no mans land in most drafts trade back or pick a starter imo.

What cause the inadequacy on Offense is Daboll game planned against a Zone defense and kept running zone beaters into Man the entire first half. Why do you think he apologized to the WRs. Is wasn’t because of a lack of running game. 

[Albany,n.y.]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

We out rushed the chiefs. Don’t move the goal posts. 

Man, get it through your skull our RBs suck.  I can't argue with you anymore because 1) You don't know what your talking about when you refers to modern football & 2) You're too blind to see we have no talent at RB. 

 

Bye, Felicia. 

[gobills404]

1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Not with our RBs, Josh Allen was responsible for the rushing yards because we were lining up garbage at RB.  Chiefs RBs outrushed Bills RBs 109-32.  

Mecole hardman isn't a running back. Our backs had 3.5 ypc and their backs had 3.1 ypc.

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

We out rushed the chiefs. Don’t move the goal posts. BTW chiefs gains 52 yards on the Ground with their Running Backs. 

And when the chiefs run this year, can you tell a meaningful difference between 1st rounder CEH

and undrafted Darrel Williams? I suspect the chiefs are fine with a luxury 1st round pick like CEH, but he is not exactly important to anything they do. 

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Albany,n.y. said:

Man, get it through your skull our RBs suck.  I can't argue with you anymore because 1) You don't know what your talking about when you refers to modern football & 2) You're too blind to see we have no talent at RB. 

 

Bye, Felicia. 

Got it. So you get walked twice. 
 

1. We out rushed the Chiefs

2 their RBs gains a great 52 yards. 
 

so now take your RB love and go home. 

[Mat68]

8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

The lack of Running game isn’t the reason we lost to KC. 

Ummm we out rushed the chiefs. 

Our Qb darn near ran for 90 of those.  Im not married to anyone at 30.  Without a possible trade down a rb will be an option compared to trait Des imo.  I understand not drafting a back til day 3.  For a pretty well build team there is not alot of plug and play options.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

And when the chiefs run this year, can you tell a meaningful difference between 1st rounder CEH

and undrafted Darrel Williams? I suspect the chiefs are fine with a luxury 1st round pick like CEH, but he is not exactly important to anything they do. 

Exactly and Why only use the pick if well you literally have no other valued positions that can use a better value position. 
 

fact remains we struggle running because we are NOT built to run. Object is SCORE POINTS. That is how we are built on offense finally. 

Just now, Mat68 said:

Our Qb darn near ran for 90 of those.  Im not married to anyone at 30.  Without a possible trade down a rb will be an option compared to trait Des imo.  I understand not drafting a back til day 3.  For a pretty well build team there is not alot of plug and play options.

Their darn  WR ran for 50 of theirs so??!

[Albany,n.y.]

3 minutes ago, gobills404 said:

Mecole hardman isn't a running back. Our backs had 3.5 ypc and their backs had 3.1 ypc.

Their top RB averaged 4.0 yards a carry, our top RB 2.8 yards a carry.  

[Mat68]

5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

What cause the inadequacy on Offense is Daboll game planned against a Zone defense and kept running zone beaters into Man the entire first half. Why do you think he apologized to the WRs. Is wasn’t because of a lack of running game. 

The second half didnt look much differant either.  The yards picked up when Kc let up the gas.

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Their top RB averaged 4.0 yards a carry, our top RB 2.8 yards a carry.  

Not in that game 

[gobills404]

Just now, Albany,n.y. said:

Their top RB averaged 4.0 yards a carry, our top RB 2.8 yards a carry.  

There 2nd back averaged 1.2 and ours averaged 5.0. What's your point?

[Hapless Bills Fan]

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[Buffalo Bills Fan]

Guess Packers don't need Aaron Jones. Might as well release him. Along Bucs Ronald Jones. People here think rb not important.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Guess Packers don't need Aaron Jones. Might as well release him. Along Bucs Ronald Jones. People here think rb not important.

Packers would not be smart giving money to Jones. Let him walk. Their wins above replacement won’t change going with Dillion on a rookie deal. 
 

rinse and repeat for every team. 

[Mat68]

4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Exactly and Why only use the pick if well you literally have no other valued positions that can use a better value position. 
 

fact remains we struggle running because we are NOT built to run. Object is SCORE POINTS. That is how we are built on offense finally. 

Their darn  WR ran for 50 of theirs so??!

They didnt need to do anything differant.  They had guys open for days.  Buffalo got abused.  Buffalo has to figure out a way to beat Kc.  They dont have the cash to change out half the roster.  In the draft they have 8 chances to improve the team.  At 30 what guy you got?  Harris is the thread so ya I would consider it.  What player you suspect will be available who is an improvement.  Top Olineman ok but is a 3rd rd prospect top rated available at the time?  

6 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said:

Guess Packers don't need Aaron Jones. Might as well release him. Along Bucs Ronald Jones. People here think rb not important.

Jones is a FA doubt they sign him.

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

They didnt need to do anything differant.  They had guys open for days.  Buffalo got abused.  Buffalo has to figure out a way to beat Kc.  They dont have the cash to change out half the roster.  In the draft they have 8 chances to improve the team.  At 30 what guy you got?  Harris is the thread so ya I would consider it.  What player you suspect will be available who is an improvement.  Top Olineman ok but is a 3rd rd prospect top rated available at the time?  

Jones is a FA doubt they sign him.

There will be a prospects with better value I already have 32 of them seeing I have Harris as a 2nd round grade. So Yep still not taking a RB at 30

[InEnemyTerritory]

I'm a little concerned about "tweaking" the OL because I understand we need far, far better run blocking but getting rid of our current guys would mean needing to replace one of the best pass blocking groups in the league.  And that is our central identity, a pass-first offense.

[MAJBobby]

44 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

No, why does having an above average back mean run first.  Same offense this year.  Have a guy to run on possibly over 5 and 6 man boxes.   When teams do what they did in the playoffs next year how does Buffalo react?  

The way they react is FIX THE DEFENSE (mainly DL). Also more WR options. Gave Davis should have never been activated and Brown was useless. Ooo let’s also talk Knox and Feliciano Not being able to pass block to save his life. Still positions with better value to upgrade before taking a RB. 

2 minutes ago, InEnemyTerritory said:

I'm a little concerned about "tweaking" the OL because I understand we need far, far better run blocking but getting rid of our current guys would mean needing to replace one of the best pass blocking groups in the league.  And that is our central identity, a pass-first offense.

Yep. Look the OGs can be a little more mauling and where when Ford was healthy. Get a speed back that can take the stretch plays and get outside. They are available in rounds 4 and below. 

[Mat68]

9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

There will be a prospects with better value I already have 32 of them seeing I have Harris as a 2nd round grade. So Yep still not taking a RB at 30

Who.... what position.  You may not like him as a player.  Offering no alternative there is no way to know what your version of higher value means.  Harris is a second rd grade.  Who do you have graded as late first rder.  

8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

The way they react is FIX THE DEFENSE (mainly DL). Also more WR options. Gave Davis should have never been activated and Brown was useless. Ooo let’s also talk Knox and Feliciano Not being able to pass block to save his life. Still positions with better value to upgrade before taking a RB. 

Yep. Look the OGs can be a little more mauling and where when Ford was healthy. Get a speed back that can take the stretch plays and get outside. They are available in rounds 4 and below. 

The guys availble late rd as I stated are all trait guys.  Oweh from PSU for example is considered late first.  Little college production height/weight/speed guy.

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

Who.... what position.  You may not like him as a player.  Offering no alternative there is no way to know what your version of higher value means.  Harris is a second rd grade.  Who do you have graded as late first rder.  

working on my draft board. Once I am done with it and confident in it I will post it as a draft Plan. You want a name right now. Fine. 
 

RT - Liam Leichenberg graded between 20-32 right now on my board. 
 

another TE Pat Freiermuth

Edited January 26, 2021 by MAJBobby

[Mat68]

1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:

working on my draft board. Once I am done with it and confident in it I will post it as a draft Plan. You want a name right now. Fine. 
 

RT - Liam Leichenberg graded between 20-32 right now on my board. 

A solid lineman is always good.  Seems to me OT gets overdrafted now due to lack of olineman play across the league. I like edge but the rawness will concern me.

[MAJBobby]

2 minutes ago, Mat68 said:

A solid lineman is always good.  Seems to me OT gets overdrafted now due to lack of olineman play across the league. I like edge but the rawness will concern me.

He likely finishes with a second round grade when all said and done. I think there are likely only 20 real first round players. And why I have said in other draft posts I will be open to selling the 5th year option to a team that wants to come up for their QB. And reap the benefits. 

[MasterStrategist]

36 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

What cause the inadequacy on Offense is Daboll game planned against a Zone defense and kept running zone beaters into Man the entire first half. Why do you think he apologized to the WRs. Is wasn’t because of a lack of running game. 

I agree with everything you've said in this thread about the value/future of our RB situation, except the quote above about Daboll.  I think they gameplanned for man, just poor execution and poor oline protection.

 

back to Rb discussion, this team absolutely gets more value by drafting a DL or OL with round 1, unless a stud LB falls then you jump on that. 

 

Problem with our run game is an imperfect marriage:

1. No speed back coupled with an OL that gets zero push up the middle.  

2. Boettger and Feliciano are both JAGs at guard.  No offense to either, but Ford needs to stay healthy and dominate at 1 of those guard spots.  Then could use another guard to plug in.  Hopefully keep Williams in the process

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, MasterStrategist said:

I agree with everything you've said in this thread about the value/future of our RB situation, except the quote above about Daboll.  I think they gameplanned for man, just poor execution and poor oline protection.

 

back to Rb discussion, this team absolutely gets more value by drafting a DL or OL with round 1, unless a stud LB falls then you jump on that. 

 

Problem with our run game is an imperfect marriage:

1. No speed back coupled with an OL that gets zero push up the middle.  

2. Boettger and Feliciano are both JAGs at guard.  No offense to either, but Ford needs to stay healthy and dominate at 1 of those guard spots.  Then could use another guard to plug in.  Hopefully keep Williams in the process

I do think the lack of speed at RB is a problem neither can hit the edge. But I don’t need to do that early. I can find speed later. 
 

also the question I ask the RB early guys. What good is that RB early when you have a line that cannot already Run block against a weak box? 

[HOUSE]

I would gladly do this but I don't like his first name.

 

People will mis spell it here and I hate that

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

In the 2nd not in the first 

He is not going to be there at the end of the 2nd round

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, John from Riverside said:

He is not going to be there at the end of the 2nd round

Ok then I don’t take him. Easy as that. Then again even if he was there I likely still wouldn’t take him. 

Edited January 27, 2021 by MAJBobby

[John from Riverside]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

Ok then I don’t take him. Easy as that. 

Or trade down and take him

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

8 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I do think the lack of speed at RB is a problem neither can hit the edge. But I don’t need to do that early. I can find speed later. 
 

also the question I ask the RB early guys. What good is that RB early when you have a line that cannot already Run block against a weak box? 

 

I think he is like faster than Moss but don't know how much maybe a few or more. I'll wait for combine if any this year. His tackling breaking, vision,, build, power is really good. 

[MAJBobby]

2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

Or trade down and take him

I still likely won’t take him. But getting the extra pick(s) depending on the value of them I would be more open to it I think. 

[John from Riverside]

Just now, MAJBobby said:

I still likely won’t take him. But getting the extra pick(s) depending on the value of them I would be more open to it I think. 

I say if we could have ran that ball at all we could have beaten KC.....not a given of course but when the pass game starts struggling.......we need to be able to RUN THE DAMN BALL

[Stank_Nasty]

1 hour ago, MAJBobby said:

Must be so easy so point out those teams that reached for non value Point them Out. 

right off the top of my head without looking(which i wont do because i dont feel like it due to the fact that its obvious that its happened numerous times), i remember the cowboys drafting frederick at the end of the 1st. They wanted him, they went and got him and caught some flack. some thought it was a round too early and he ended up being an all pro and an anchor on the best line in football for a time. literally nobody was 2nd guessing that pick by the end of his rookie year.... its not hard to pick them out... acting like the draft is purely for value and nothing else is good way to lose out on some serious pieces to puzzle. thankfully i'm confident our front office knows that. 

26 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Ok then I don’t take him. Easy as that. Then again even if he was there I likely still wouldn’t take him. 

this is absolutely ridiculous. if there is a guy there they want and are certain he will help them raise their level immediately you take them. PERIOD. you dont just pass because he's projected 10 or 15 slots lower. good lord. To be clear i'm not saying harris is that guy. i'm speaking in general terms.

Edited January 27, 2021 by Stank_Nasty

[Buffalo Junction]

26 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I do think the lack of speed at RB is a problem neither can hit the edge. But I don’t need to do that early. I can find speed later. 
 

also the question I ask the RB early guys. What good is that RB early when you have a line that cannot already Run block against a weak box? 

This is why I wait till FA to start really thinking about what guys teams will look into drafting. It’s just ranking positions until that point.... Particularly with the salary cap this upcoming season. Right now I don’t think we can rule out Beane trying to overhaul the trenches a bit, especially if he can get top value. Can’t yet rule out something completely unexpected like going after Brandon Scherff if he hits the market. If this team wants to beat the Chiefs they need an answer for Chris Jones, which means getting at least one interior player that can win one on one matchups against pro bowl DTs. 

[MAJBobby]

3 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said:

right off the top of my head without looking(which i wont do because i dont feel like it due to the fact that its obvious that its happened numerous times), i remember the cowboys drafting frederick at the end of the 1st. They wanted him, they went and got him and caught some flack. some thought it was a round too early and he ended up being an all pro and an anchor on the best line in football for a time. literally nobody was 2nd guessing that pick by the end of his rookie year.... its not hard to pick them out... acting like the draft is purely for value and nothing else is good way to lose out on some serious pieces to puzzle. thankfully i'm confident our front office knows that. 

this is absolutely ridiculous. if there is a guy there they want and are certain he will help them raise their level immediately you take them. PERIOD. you dont just pass because he's projected 10 or 15 slots lower. good lord.

That is exactly how you play the draft. Not talking pundit projections talking Value 

[Figster]

34 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I say if we could have ran that ball at all we could have beaten KC.....not a given of course but when the pass game starts struggling.......we need to be able to RUN THE DAMN BALL

I agree John,

 

I must admit I wasn't to thrilled with the idea of using high draft picks to go after another RB. However having had the privilege of watching Harris play for my favorite college team. The thought of Harris in the Bills backfield sends tingles up my spine. 

[Mr. WEO]

2 hours ago, Braedenstearns said:

He looks a little slow in those highlights. And that’s one issue I have with Singleterry... can never beat anyone to the outside. Moss will definitely be the power back next season. I think we need someone with some speed to complement Moss 

 

 

Moss's knock coming out was that he takes lots of hits and won't last long in the NFL.  He takes a lickin, but won't keep on ticking'.

 

1 season, one surgery so far.