YoloinOhio Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 So Dan Morgan goes from a good LB to a few years in a front office to GM?. Sure, why not. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: So Dan Morgan goes from a good LB to a few years in a front office to GM?. Sure, why not. Dan Morgan worked In Seattle FO before coming to Buffalo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InEnemyTerritory Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Malik Boyd is a guy I could see getting a lot of interest for a GM position. Excellent track record of picking gems off the scrap heap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Dan Morgan worked In Seattle FO before coming to Buffalo I know. I've followed Dan Morgan his whole career. He is nowhere ready to be a GM. Let someone take a chance on him. I pull for the guy, I have his autographed Panthers helmet. But he has done nothing to deserve a GM job as of yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Leslie Frazier can help any team at defending the Hail Mary .. Edited December 1, 2020 by HOUSE 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 We'll likely lose one or two over the next few years. Schoen is Beane's right hand man but Brian Gaine was considered a future star also but had issues in Houston. So I don't see Gaine ever getting another job. We're very deep in the front office department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I like that Beane likes to bring in the best, brightest, most experienced guys he can. Other GM's seem to be threatened by underlings like that. All they seem to care about is control. Glad that both McDermott and Beane care about winning and are humble and collaborative enough to bring in people as smart or smarter than them. How many power struggles have we gone through over the years? And we see it all the time with other teams too. 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Bubba Gump said: I know. I've followed Dan Morgan his whole career. He is nowhere ready to be a GM. Let someone take a chance on him. I pull for the guy, I have his autographed Panthers helmet. But he has done nothing to deserve a GM job as of yet. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We'll likely lose one or two over the next few years. Schoen is Beane's right hand man but Brian Gaine was considered a future star also but had issues in Houston. So I don't see Gaine ever getting another job. We're very deep in the front office department. The Houston situation was a joke. Clearly just O'Brien grabbing as much power as possible. Gaine deserves another shot in a better situation. Edited November 30, 2020 by MJS 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: ? And??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: I know. I've followed Dan Morgan his whole career. He is nowhere ready to be a GM. Let someone take a chance on him. I pull for the guy, I have his autographed Panthers helmet. But he has done nothing to deserve a GM job as of yet. What experience did Lynch have before becoming SF's GM? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, MJS said: I like that Beane likes to bring in the best, brightest, most experienced guys he can. Other GM's seem to be threatened by underlings like that. All they seem to care about is control. Glad that both McDermott and Beane care about winning and are humble and collaborative enough to bring in people as smart or smarter than them. How many power struggles have we gone through over the years? And we see it all the time with other teams too. We'll see what happens as time goes on. It's a unique situation where McDermott basically picked his front office. McDermott is the king of the Bills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) Beane has assembled an outstanding front office. They didn’t even mention Brian Gaine who we brought back after Houston (Bill O’Brien) fired him as their GM. Also, if Dawson, Boyd and Gray get GM jobs we get 3rd round compensatory picks in the next two drafts for each. I think it’s a stupid rule, but kudos to Beane for having a diverse front office BEFORE there was a reward for it. EDIT: I don’t think hiring diversely is stupid, at all. I’m a huge advocate. I just don’t like the compensation attached... it seems to create the wrong atmosphere. I don’t have the solution though, at least the league is trying. Edited November 30, 2020 by JGMcD2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: We'll see what happens as time goes on. It's a unique situation where McDermott basically picked his front office. McDermott is the king of the Bills. I doubt that. I'm sure Beane was a big part of bringing in personnel. Clearly McDermott does not answer to Beane, but they also clearly collaborate and both answer to the Pegulas, who luckily allow them to do their thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Beane has assembled an outstanding from office. They didn’t even mention Brian Gaine who we brought back after Houston (Bill O’Brien) fired him as their GM. Also, if Dawson, Boyd and Gray get GM jobs we get 3rd round compensatory picks in the next two drafts for each. I think it’s a stupid rule, but kudos to Beane for having a diverse front office BEFORE there was a reward for it. That goes for front office execs as well as coaches? Edited November 30, 2020 by Buffalo Junction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: And??? That was written 2 years before he will be interviewing... apparently he is considered a GM candidate 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: What experience did Lynch have before becoming SF's GM? Not enough obviously. And any joe shmoe would've drafted Nick Bosa. He hasn't done anything spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: That goes for front office execs as well as coaches? • A team that loses a minority assistant coach who becomes a head coach or loses a personnel executive who becomes a general manager will receive third-round compensatory picks in each of the next two drafts. • A team that loses two minority staffers to head coach and general manager positions would receive three third-round picks. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6234064002 Edited December 1, 2020 by JGMcD2 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: That was written 2 years before he will be interviewing... apparently he is considered a GM candidate Guess we'll just have to wait and see. I just don't think he is nearly ready enough, IMO. Hope I'm wrong, I really like the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 30, 2020 Author Share Posted November 30, 2020 1 minute ago, JGMcD2 said: • A team that loses a minority assistant coach who becomes a head coach or loses a personnel executive who becomes a general manager will receive third-round compensatory picks in each of the next two drafts. • A team that loses two minority staffers to head coach and general manager positions would receive three third-round picks. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/6234064002 Belichick is writing resumes right now for everyone in his FO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 These new GM's will sign ex-Bills like we sign ex-Panthers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Geez. I didn’t realize that we also have Dennis Hickey (former Dolphins GM) in the personnel department. We also have Alonzo Highsmith’s son as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 I don't think Morgan wants to coach, but I think he'd be a great linebackers coach. He was a beast in college at Miami, and was great in Carolina before he got injured. Reminded me of Luke Keuchly. He'd be a better LB coach than a GM, but I think he relishes the office job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: Not enough obviously. And any joe shmoe would've drafted Nick Bosa. He hasn't done anything spectacular. Some would argue he's done a good job. SF did play in last year's Superbowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QLBillsFan Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Some would argue he's done a good job. SF did play in last year's Superbowl. Dan Morgan has more than earned the right to be in the mix as a GM. Significantly more experience than Lynch who was a broadcaster post NFL career. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Weird timing. I truly had a nightmare last night that the Cowboys poach Beane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, MJS said: I doubt that. I'm sure Beane was a big part of bringing in personnel. Clearly McDermott does not answer to Beane, but they also clearly collaborate and both answer to the Pegulas, who luckily allow them to do their thing. They obviously have a great working relationship but McDermott is King. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, jkeerie said: Some would argue he's done a good job. SF did play in last year's Superbowl. I think SF is in deep ***** in the upcoming years. They screwed themselves overpaying for Jimmy G. He is not a good QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 43 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Looks like PFF has been reading this board for ideas. Not first time something on here has shown up there including false info posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, QLBillsFan said: Dan Morgan has more than earned the right to be in the mix as a GM. Significantly more experience than Lynch who was a broadcaster post NFL career. He's not ready yet. Needs a few more years if you ask me. 3-4 years from now, he might be a great GM. 1 minute ago, Limeaid said: Looks like PFF has been reading this board for ideas. Not first time something on here has shown up there including false info posted. Sure, I'll agree with a guy thay can't even spell Beane right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: I think SF is in deep ***** in the upcoming years. They screwed themselves overpaying for Jimmy G. He is not a good QB. Well they can get out of that deal for $2m this offseason. So if that is the reason you worry for them you can relax. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: So Dan Morgan goes from a good LB to a few years in a front office to GM?. Sure, why not. You could say the same about John Lynch as a safety turned commentator and then 49ers GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, GunnerBill said: Well they can get out of that deal for $2m this offseason. So if that is the reason you worry for them you can relax. I don't give two ***** about SF. I never thought Jimmy G was the answer for them though. Kinda like the Bills trading for Rob Johnson because of one great game in J-ville. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Joe Schoen is the most likely 2021 GM of our personnel assistants. I have been told he is the best talent evaluator on the Bills staff and he will get looks. I imagine they brought Gaine back as a consultant to allow him to slide into that role. It really is an all star staff Beane built. I suspect it is one of the most expensive personnel staffs in the league. Will be interesting to see if the rumoured Pegula belt tightening affects the replacement of any guys who move on. Just now, Bubba Gump said: I don't give two ***** about SF. I never thought Jimmy G was the answer for them though. Kinda like the Bills trading for Rob Johnson because of one great game in J-ville. But that contract isn't gonna put them in trouble a few years from now which is what you said. It is literally escapable for pocket change after this season. I am pretty sure Jimmy G is not the QB in San Fran in 2021. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Joe Schoen is the most likely 2021 GM of our personnel assistants. I have been told he is the best talent evaluator on the Bills staff and he will get looks. I imagine they brought Gaine back as a consultant to allow him to slide into that role. It really is an all star staff Beane built. I suspect it is one of the most expensive personnel staffs in the league. Will be interesting to see if the rumoured Pegula belt tightening affects the replacement of any guys who move on. This I agree with. 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Joe Schoen is the most likely 2021 GM of our personnel assistants. I have been told he is the best talent evaluator on the Bills staff and he will get looks. I imagine they brought Gaine back as a consultant to allow him to slide into that role. It really is an all star staff Beane built. I suspect it is one of the most expensive personnel staffs in the league. Will be interesting to see if the rumoured Pegula belt tightening affects the replacement of any guys who move on. But that contract isn't gonna put them in trouble a few years from now which is what you said. It is literally escapable for pocket change after this season. I am pretty sure Jimmy G is not the QB in San Fran in 2021. I hear ya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: They obviously have a great working relationship but McDermott is King. Ok. But Beane doesn't report to McDermott. They both report to the Pegulas. How you choose to interpret that is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: Ok. But Beane doesn't report to McDermott. They both report to the Pegulas. How you choose to interpret that is up to you. He is right though. This is McDermott's show. It doesn't matter in reality because our HC and GM are totally aligned but if they had a major falling out and the Pegulas had to choose.... they'd choose McDermott. They fell for him in his interview (thank heavens) and he is absolutely their guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: I know. I've followed Dan Morgan his whole career. He is nowhere ready to be a GM. Let someone take a chance on him. I pull for the guy, I have his autographed Panthers helmet. But he has done nothing to deserve a GM job as of yet. How do you quantify what he’s learned about team and culture building? 20 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: I think SF is in deep ***** in the upcoming years. They screwed themselves overpaying for Jimmy G. He is not a good QB. The next two years are essentially team options. They could walk away with nearly zero consequence 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, MJS said: Ok. But Beane doesn't report to McDermott. They both report to the Pegulas. How you choose to interpret that is up to you. The way I see it is Beane builds the team based on how McDermott designs it. I think they work well together. Right now I think we're a lot like a top college program. It's hard to do something like that in the NFL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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