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Trump's Legal Machine Grinds to a Halt


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1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

But I mean the argument that if things were exactly the same as when Trump won in 2016 how could he lose in 2020 is brilliant...unless of course things aren't the same as 2016 at all.

 

The Surpreme Court will probably just not hear the case but if they do, I look forward to the 9-0 scathing drubbing and only wish Scalia was alive to write it. 

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And so it ends.

Will anyone tell Trump it's over?

Today's 7-2 decision slapping down the State of Texas lawsuit was really a 9-0 unanimous decision. The two who added their own two-line opinions -- Alito and Thomas (NOT any of Trump appointees; thank you for proving him wrong when he thought you'd be political hacks) simply noted that they would have dismissed the case on different grounds.

There is nowhere else for Trump to go now except to the state legislatures and the Congress itself. That would be a pure political power play, not even wrapped in the guise of a legal proceeding. As many have said, it would also be the final norm to be broken by a President who seemingly relishes the opportunity to break norms.

Being a conservative used to mean that one appreciated and defended norms ...

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24 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

And so it ends.

Will anyone tell Trump it's over?

Today's 7-2 decision slapping down the State of Texas lawsuit was really a 9-0 unanimous decision. The two who added their own two-line opinions -- Alito and Thomas (NOT any of Trump appointees; thank you for proving him wrong when he thought you'd be political hacks) simply noted that they would have dismissed the case on different grounds.

There is nowhere else for Trump to go now except to the state legislatures and the Congress itself. That would be a pure political power play, not even wrapped in the guise of a legal proceeding. As many have said, it would also be the final norm to be broken by a President who seemingly relishes the opportunity to break norms.

Being a conservative used to mean that one appreciated and defended norms ...

 

Trump isn't a conservative. 

 

He's a fascist.

 

He doesn't believe in Democracy, and he's not hiding it anymore. 

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It is done.  It was done Nov 3rd.  The only reason we have to put up with this is because a 3 year old in the White House is having a temper tantrum.  If he tries anything else like forcing legislators to change the will of the people he should be arrested for sedition.

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10 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

It is done.  It was done Nov 3rd.  The only reason we have to put up with this is because a 3 year old in the White House is having a temper tantrum.  If he tries anything else like forcing legislators to change the will of the people he should be arrested for sedition.

Honestly he's crossed that line already pressuring election officials not to certify, state legislators to somehow overturn it, and Governors to also not certify. He's gotten away with for two reasons. 1. The same reason the impeachment didn't go through the senate plus democrats just want the process to throw him out without them getting into the muck with him. 2. Our government doesn't seemed to of taken into consideration that someone would ever do the things he has or maybe more accurately they thought we wouldn't let him.

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37 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

It is done.  It was done Nov 3rd.  The only reason we have to put up with this is because a 3 year old in the White House is having a temper tantrum.  If he tries anything else like forcing legislators to change the will of the people he should be arrested for sedition.

 

The only reason I don't think it's legally sedition is because none of the Republican officials Trump's pressured  bowed to the Dictator-Wannabe-in-Chief's threats.  They saved his ass by refusing to do his bidding since there needs to be an actual seditious action.   Otherwise, he's just exercising "free speech" however reprehensible and dangerous his words may be.

 

21 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Honestly he's crossed that line already pressuring election officials not to certify, state legislators to somehow overturn it, and Governors to also not certify. He's gotten away with for two reasons. 1. The same reason the impeachment didn't go through the senate plus democrats just want the process to throw him out without them getting into the muck with him. 2. Our government doesn't seemed to of taken into consideration that someone would ever do the things he has or maybe more accurately they thought we wouldn't let him.

 

Exactly. 

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@Dragoon please don't do something that's going to hurt your life and those that I'm sure care about you. Don't waste yourself on this Narcissist he doesn't care about you, he's raised hundreds of millions of dollars supposedly to fight the results of this election and only spent a fraction of it on it, he doesn't care.

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2 hours ago, Warcodered said:

@Dragoon please don't do something that's going to hurt your life and those that I'm sure care about you. Don't waste yourself on this Narcissist he doesn't care about you, he's raised hundreds of millions of dollars supposedly to fight the results of this election and only spent a fraction of it on it, he doesn't care.

 

He's got a history of posting violent stuff apparently against racial groups under his name as the dude. He got banned here and is welcome at the new place. Just fyi. 

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4 hours ago, Dragoon said:

However, the tenant of that contract is that we the people keep our arms and we will sic semper tyranis if our property rights, liberty, and justice become infringed upon. 

 

Are you that guy from the Rent Is Too Damn High party???

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20 hours ago, Dragoon said:

Listen, more often than not times do NOT call for extreme measures and people like me should be left to rattle sabres. People like me should be listened to, and taken seriously because we are the final authority and I would argue the last check and balance in the equation. I challenge any moderate to challenge me on that topic. This nation was built on the social contract. We must...for the sake of a bette tomorrow, sacrifice small amounts of our liberty to ensure we live in a society of laws where property rights are respected. However, the tenant of that contract is that we the people keep our arms and we will sic semper tyranis if our property rights, liberty, and justice become infringed upon. 


Yeah right uh huh 

 

WE THE PEOPLE 

 

Not you and your snowflake feelings.  

Tyrants?   Is that why you love Trump??

 

15 hours ago, Backintheday544 said:

Trump tweeted the Supreme Court has no wisdom. I feel like he appointed 3 of them. Shouldn’t he have vetted their wisdom prior to putting them through the confirmation process?

 

Republicans approved all 3 mainly along party lines. Does this means Republicans are also a bad judge of wisdom?


you can’t fix stupid 

19 hours ago, Warcodered said:

@Dragoon please don't do something that's going to hurt your life and those that I'm sure care about you. Don't waste yourself on this Narcissist he doesn't care about you, he's raised hundreds of millions of dollars supposedly to fight the results of this election and only spent a fraction of it on it, he doesn't care.


exactly.  
 

he will use that money he got from suckers for his own means 

 

you Dragoon are nothing but a low brow lemming in his cult

 

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7 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

you Dragoon are nothing but a low bread lemming in his cult

what kind of bread is that?

Easy Perfect Yeast Bread

13 minutes ago, TBBills said:

Sarah Pin joined in the voter fraud movement.... Well just in time to lose some more.

Is she still driving around the country in bus with her face on it?

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8 hours ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:


Yeah right uh huh 

 

WE THE PEOPLE 

 

Not you and your snowflake feelings.  

Tyrants?   Is that why you love Trump??

 


you can’t fix stupid 


exactly.  
 

he will use that money he got from suckers for his own means 

 

you Dragoon are nothing but a low bread lemming in his cult

 


All men have a right to inflict what they can enforce, laws be damned. 
 

Violence is coming. Bodies will be stacked. Good luck. I’m grinning ear to ear. I’m fixin to have things like I like ‘em — not boring. 

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3 minutes ago, Dragoon said:


All men have a right to inflict what they can enforce, laws be damned. 
 

Violence is coming. Bodies will be stacked. Good luck. I’m grinning ear to ear. I’m fixin to have things like I like ‘em — not boring. 

Laws be damned?  Go ahead and try- you’l be dead or in jail.

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19 minutes ago, Dragoon said:


All men have a right to inflict what they can enforce, laws be damned. 
 

Violence is coming. Bodies will be stacked. Good luck. I’m grinning ear to ear. I’m fixin to have things like I like ‘em — not boring. 

You are grinning ear to ear b.c you want to kill innocent people? You will be another domestic terrorist who will have done nothing but bring the people you hate closer together. 

 

You have been brainwashed... Go seek help.

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5 hours ago, Dragoon said:


All men have a right to inflict what they can enforce, laws be damned. 
 

Violence is coming. Bodies will be stacked. Good luck. I’m grinning ear to ear. I’m fixin to have things like I like ‘em — not boring. 


More peace and prosperity than ever. 
 

Yet you yearn for violence. 
 

Do you think there might be another way?

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14 hours ago, Gugny said:

 

Are you that guy from the Rent Is Too Damn High party???

 

Nah, just another member of the Functionally Illiterate Party, aka Trump's Cult.

 

5 hours ago, Dragoon said:


All men have a right to inflict what they can enforce, laws be damned. 
 

Violence is coming. Bodies will be stacked. Good luck. I’m grinning ear to ear. I’m fixin to have things like I like ‘em — not boring. 

 

Another armchair revolutionary heard from.  Please go ahead and try something in the real world so the FBI can thwart your lame-brained plot and the federal courts can lock up your sorry self for sedition.

 

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11 hours ago, ALF said:

So Trump and his supporters don't believe in the Supreme Court which is 6-3 republican  ?


3 of which Don selected!!!

 

5 hours ago, Dragoon said:


All men have a right to inflict what they can enforce, laws be damned. 
 

Violence is coming. Bodies will be stacked. Good luck. I’m grinning ear to ear. I’m fixin to have things like I like ‘em — not boring. 


seems like you need to meet the police. 
let them know how you feel 

6 hours ago, Warcodered said:

what kind of bread is that?


white bread of course 

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18 hours ago, Dragoon said:


All men have a right to inflict what they can enforce, laws be damned. 
 

Violence is coming. Bodies will be stacked. Good luck. I’m grinning ear to ear. I’m fixin to have things like I like ‘em — not boring. 

You sound like “the dude.” Batschitt crazy!!!! 

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Over the last week as the belief that legally cast votes would be overturned because they hurt MAGA voters' feelings, the calls for violence seem to have escalated. 

 

It's still over 5 weeks till Trump needs to leave. In a month, with how deranged MAGA supporters are, I really worry things might escalate further as more and more of the cult's brain trust continue calling for violence. 

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CNN’s Jake Tapper wrapped up his show with some typically insightful remarks. “President Trump did us a favor by exposing these elected officials,” Tapper said of the Republican officeholders who brought or signed onto the Texas lawsuit seeking to throw out other states’ votes. “They are definitionally people who signed on to a desperate desire to subvert the will of the American people, to disenfranchise voters in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan based on lies and conspiracy theories, putting an immoral and corrupt power grab above democracy.” Tapper observed that “now we know clearly how much these individuals care about facts or truth, how much they care about democracy, or the principles that make this country great, which is to say not at all.”

 
 
 
17 minutes ago, jrober38 said:

Over the last week as the belief that legally cast votes would be overturned because they hurt MAGA voters' feelings, the calls for violence seem to have escalated. 

 

It's still over 5 weeks till Trump needs to leave. In a month, with how deranged MAGA supporters are, I really worry things might escalate further as more and more of the cult's brain trust continue calling for violence. 

Or over the next few years. Germany's democracy in the Weimar Republic was plagued by the Big Lie that Germany never lost the war, but was stabbed in the back by the democratic government. That took years to play out, but it did play out 

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