Dkollidas Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 I think the upside is that he’s consistently been miscast, our scheme definitely plays more to his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 A lot of shade is being thrown on this guy. Not many pro-bowl LB are available at this point and we are pretty banged up at the position right now. I see the upsides he is available, athletic, and likely hungry to get back to the NFL. I would bet he will be signed to a small contract and cut if he cant play. Under the circumstances I love it! The Bills are in in position for a playoff run and a little help could make the difference. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 The offseason where Doug Whaley scored Lorenzo Alexander for peanuts he also had another absolute bargain signing...........the enigmatic but athletically gifted Zach Brown. Also age 26. He ended up going from being a disappointing reserve in TN to leading the NFL in tackles for the Bills. Beane is long overdue for a score like that............a player every team had a chance to sign but didn't who then turns into a very good player for a couple seasons or so. So while Lee has hard-earned his doubters........it's certainly not out of the question that he could put it together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 hours ago, artmalibu said: A lot of shade is being thrown on this guy. Not many pro-bowl LB are available at this point and we are pretty banged up at the position right now. I see the upsides he is available, athletic, and likely hungry to get back to the NFL. I would bet he will be signed to a small contract and cut if he cant play. Under the circumstances I love it! The Bills are in in position for a playoff run and a little help could make the difference. I'm surprised we haven't heard an official announcement by now. Maybe he's not coming? 🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: The offseason where Doug Whaley scored Lorenzo Alexander for peanuts he also had another absolute bargain signing...........the enigmatic but athletically gifted Zach Brown. Also age 26. He ended up going from being a disappointing reserve in TN to leading the NFL in tackles for the Bills. Beane is long overdue for a score like that............a player every team had a chance to sign but didn't who then turns into a very good player for a couple seasons or so. So while Lee has hard-earned his doubters........it's certainly not out of the question that he could put it together. Darryl Williams is exactly that. Hopefully we can keep him past this season but I have a feeling it will be expensive Brown was a Bill for one season. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, NewEra said: Darryl Williams is exactly that. Hopefully we can keep him past this season but I have a feeling it will be expensive Brown was a Bill for one season. Yeah I would put Williams a different category. He was an All Pro recently and was just available for one year on the cheap because of an off year recovering from major injury. He was also a flyer on a player they knew which they have generally not had good luck with. As good as Williams is his performance is more than off-set by those albatross cap hits sustained by the acquisitions of busts like Benjamin, Lotulelei and Klein etc.. Brown was available because he just never came close to living up to the expectations based on his draft status and athleticism..........which is more comparable to where Lee is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: The offseason where Doug Whaley scored Lorenzo Alexander for peanuts he also had another absolute bargain signing...........the enigmatic but athletically gifted Zach Brown. Also age 26. He ended up going from being a disappointing reserve in TN to leading the NFL in tackles for the Bills. Beane is long overdue for a score like that............a player every team had a chance to sign but didn't who then turns into a very good player for a couple seasons or so. So while Lee has hard-earned his doubters........it's certainly not out of the question that he could put it together. 20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah I would put Williams a different category. He was an All Pro recently and was just available for one year on the cheap because of an off year recovering from major injury. He was also a flyer on a player they knew which they have generally not had good luck with. As good as Williams is his performance is more than off-set by those albatross cap hits sustained by the acquisitions of busts like Benjamin, Lotulelei and Klein etc.. Brown was available because he just never came close to living up to the expectations based on his draft status and athleticism..........which is more comparable to where Lee is right now. a player every team had a chance to sign but didn't who then turns into a very good player for a couple seasons or so. Williams is exactly as you stated except it’s only been for one year.....just like Brown was. Now you’re changing the parameters. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 34 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: Yeah I would put Williams a different category. He was an All Pro recently and was just available for one year on the cheap because of an off year recovering from major injury. He was also a flyer on a player they knew which they have generally not had good luck with. As good as Williams is his performance is more than off-set by those albatross cap hits sustained by the acquisitions of busts like Benjamin, Lotulelei and Klein etc.. Brown was available because he just never came close to living up to the expectations based on his draft status and athleticism..........which is more comparable to where Lee is right now. D.Williams this year, and Spain and Feliciano last year were some examples of hitting off the scrap heap. I would also add in Jordan Phillips in 2018. Mc Beane has done a lot of great work on lower level FA signings. Hopefully Lee provides some help on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 Lotulelei a bust😂😂😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: a player every team had a chance to sign but didn't who then turns into a very good player for a couple seasons or so. Williams is exactly as you stated except it’s only been for one year.....just like Brown was. Now you’re changing the parameters. Correct I am changing parameters and I already indicated why I don't see Daryl Williams in the same light as I would view a guy like Lee turning into a success story. What I am looking for is an indication that the Bills scouting is showing any superiority over the average franchise. We aren't seeing that. Another example is Jordan Phillips..........a talented but very underperforming player in Miami..........but in his case they had the early waiver claim so the entire league didn't get a shot to sign him. They have had some hits. But he Bills personnel department under Beane has not been very efficient. They miss too much. They waste a lot of cap room......but in modest increments so there aren't the huge mistakes visible.........but ultimately it has limited their flexibility with the cap a lot more than you would like to see just 2 years after clearing the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Lotulelei a bust😂😂😂 We obviously don't miss him this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: D.Williams this year, and Spain and Feliciano last year were some examples of hitting off the scrap heap. I would also add in Jordan Phillips in 2018. Mc Beane has done a lot of great work on lower level FA signings. Hopefully Lee provides some help on defense. But that would mean that Beane did good. We prefer not to talk about that stuff here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 21 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: D.Williams this year, and Spain and Feliciano last year were some examples of hitting off the scrap heap. I would also add in Jordan Phillips in 2018. Mc Beane has done a lot of great work on lower level FA signings. Hopefully Lee provides some help on defense. The Spain experiment ended poorly and wasn't cheap. Feliciano was a good, inexpensive pickup but he hasn't played a snap this season yet and I suspect if they cut him today he'd probably end up on someone's practice squad like Spain is right now. Those guys filled a role but they weren't exceptional. Lorax was an NFLDPOY candidate. Brown lead the NFL in tackles. Poyer and Hyde were instantly one of the top 10 safety tandems in the league. There is a difference between adequate and exceptional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 4 hours ago, artmalibu said: A lot of shade is being thrown on this guy. Not many pro-bowl LB are available at this point and we are pretty banged up at the position right now. I see the upsides he is available, athletic, and likely hungry to get back to the NFL. I would bet he will be signed to a small contract and cut if he cant play. Under the circumstances I love it! The Bills are in in position for a playoff run and a little help could make the difference. As you point out the upside is high and the down side is very limited- he can't be much worse than Klein who I think is miscast- so as long as he does not cost too much cash I don't see much problems 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: I'm surprised we haven't heard an official announcement by now. Maybe he's not coming? 🤔 Maybe Bills are waiting for all the covid protocols to clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If the guys not good enough for another team, then he’s perfect for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 22 minutes ago, Sweats said: If the guys not good enough for another team, then he’s perfect for us Jerry Hughes, Micah Hyde, Jordan Poyer, John Brown, Mitch Morse, Cole Beasley, and Stefon Diggs all say hi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, artmalibu said: A lot of shade is being thrown on this guy. Not many pro-bowl LB are available at this point and we are pretty banged up at the position right now. I see the upsides he is available, athletic, and likely hungry to get back to the NFL. I would bet he will be signed to a small contract and cut if he cant play. Under the circumstances I love it! The Bills are in in position for a playoff run and a little help could make the difference. Good post. Not sure about he kids mindset. But if he buys in ? any updates on him signing yea or nay ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: D.Williams this year, and Spain and Feliciano last year were some examples of hitting off the scrap heap. I would also add in Jordan Phillips in 2018. Mc Beane has done a lot of great work on lower level FA signings. Hopefully Lee provides some help on defense. I have a good bit of faith in Bills pro scouts. Even with the glaring errors. K Benjamin being a fine example of epic fail LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 1 hour ago, klos63 said: We obviously don't miss him this season. The Bills were like 18th in yards per carry allowed last year.........and are 21st this year(tied with Baltimore among others). They weren't stout last year when they had healthy starting LB's and a $50M 1-tech. But don't worry they get Star and his $11M remaining guaranteed back next year and then the rushing attacks around the league will be sorry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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