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1 minute ago, Haslett_Stomp said:

 

If Hogan can do it Diggs certainly can.

on 2 player's

1 minute ago, Mango said:


His cap hit this year is like $25M. I am not one of the resident cap-ologists, but it is pretty expensive for a rental this season. Next year is about $17.5M. I am actually less concerned about cost in draft capital and more concerned with managing the cap. The only way it works I think is probably with an extension as well to spread out the damage. But now you are extending a player who has not been good this year and taking a chance that he will return to form. If he doesn't you end up eating tons of $$$.

we would give up a extra pick for Pats to eat some of that money

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1 hour ago, matter2003 said:

There are rumblings coming out of New England that Gilmore is doing he same thing there he was doing here...ie, trying to protect himself from injury and not really playing as hard as he could or putting himself in some compromising positions on tackles.  Teddy Brushci brought this up, apparently he still is on radio there and has connections with people on the team and he said this is a real concern and that he noticed it on tape even before they brought it up in conversations...

d worthy.

 

Gilmore is a mercenary...he isn't a player you can rely on to be part of the team concept for more than a few years.

He never laid it on the line his last year in Buffalo.   Ran away from tackling running backs.....ala Deion Sanders.  I always thought a good stragedy against Gilmore would be to run to his side of the field as he would not challenge, but instead protect himself.  I was surprised that the Bills, who knew, didn't do that.

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3 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

He never laid it on the line his last year in Buffalo.   Ran away from tackling running backs.....ala Deion Sanders.  I always thought a good stragedy against Gilmore would be to run to his side of the field as he would not challenge, but instead protect himself.  I was surprised that the Bills, who knew, didn't do that.

 

Apparently the same thing is going on there this year.

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5 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said:

 

we would give up a extra pick for Pats to eat some of that money

 

WTF are you talking about? I may be wrong here, but I am fairly certain you can't just break down the contract into line items and sell/buy whatever portions of the contract you don't want to deal with. A team can't just go to NE and say, "hey we'll give you a 2nd for Gilmore, and if you pay an additional X part of his contract we will throw in a 4th too".

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He just didn’t put his house on the market, he set a deadline for Tuesday at 5 which is the trade deadline.

 

So he’s gone but the only question is when will he be gone?

 

If Belichick thought this team had a reasonable chance to complete there’s little doubt that they even entertain talks to trade Gilmore

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I don't have time to read the thread but if he is really gone at the deadline, does he sit on Sunday?

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1 minute ago, Turk71 said:

I don't have time to read the thread but if he is really gone at the deadline, does he sit on Sunday?

 

He popped up on the injury report today. He might make a business decision to have a "knee injury"

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6 minutes ago, Mango said:

 

WTF are you talking about? I may be wrong here, but I am fairly certain you can't just break down the contract into line items and sell/buy whatever portions of the contract you don't want to deal with. A team can't just go to NE and say, "hey we'll give you a 2nd for Gilmore, and if you pay an additional X part of his contract we will throw in a 4th too".

I think you can do that, I'm not positive though. The Pats would trade Gilmore and cash for two picks. Pretty sure that's been done before.

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

Like I said in the other thread, which I expect this to be merged with soon, I saw the lack of effort against the 49ers. He knows the cheaters are done for the foreseeable future and that Belicheat is likely to retire soon, maybe at the end of the season.

I dream of this!

 

Hope Josh McDaniel's gets the job. We see what he has done in NE without Brady... he will be lucky to get HCing offers now.

 

The Patriots are the bottom of the division right with the Jets :lol:

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36 minutes ago, spartacus said:

Trevor Lawrence has always been the plan

They already have more wins the the jets will all season... You don't really think they are in the running do you?

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3 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

I think you can do that, I'm not positive though. The Pats would trade Gilmore and cash for two picks. Pretty sure that's been done before.

 

In theory you can trade cash, but you cannot trade cap space in that way.  So say you gave a 1st for Gilmore and $10M. You don't get a $10M increase on the salary cap. 

NO could have and most likely would have traded away picks for the Browns, Bills, Colts, etc.cap space over the last few years. It doesn't work that way. 

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42 minutes ago, bigK14094 said:

He never laid it on the line his last year in Buffalo.   Ran away from tackling running backs.....ala Deion Sanders.  I always thought a good stragedy against Gilmore would be to run to his side of the field as he would not challenge, but instead protect himself.  I was surprised that the Bills, who knew, didn't do that.

 

38 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

Apparently the same thing is going on there this year.

 

With Moss back on the field I'd love to see Gilmore have to make a "business decision".

 

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If the Patriots are truly planning on moving on from Gilmore they will sit him this weekend.

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1 hour ago, TBBills said:

Yea that looks like guys had good times after they left. You aren't looking for more than a couple of years from older guys that Patriots released.

 

Welker had his best year the year he left NE for Denver he caught 10TDs in 13 games.

Again, this was the point I was making in my original post.

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2 hours ago, Billzgobowlin said:

I find it interesting the Patriots are 2-4 and all of a sudden Gilmore is no longer considered the best CB.  

 

Conclusion: it is all Gilmore's fault.

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1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said:

i hope so

if he plays.. they could sit him out so hes healthy for trade

 

If he plays Safeties hit him hard making him not healthy enough for a trade.

1 hour ago, bigK14094 said:

He never laid it on the line his last year in Buffalo.   Ran away from tackling running backs.....ala Deion Sanders.  I always thought a good stragedy against Gilmore would be to run to his side of the field as he would not challenge, but instead protect himself.  I was surprised that the Bills, who knew, didn't do that.

 

Dieon was not a tackling back.

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1 hour ago, PirateHookerMD said:

He popped up on the injury report today. He might make a business decision to have a "knee injury"

 

"Foot soreness" seems to work...

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