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New England Is Still The Team To Beat in AFC East (For Now)


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Yup, until we beat them the rode to the AFCE title goes through Foxboro, and it pains me to say it.

 

Go Bills!!!

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55 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

No matter how good Cam is...he’s not Brady. He’s not literally the best QB in the history of Football. I will take our chances 

 Cam Newton has gone to a SB. He doesn't need to be Brady. The bills and McDermott haven't beaten BB yet to date....and for the Seattle weak D talk. The bills as of now only played The jet and the fins and the fins gave you a game....

 

I know some here hate to hear that..but its true. 

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40 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 Cam Newton has gone to a SB. He doesn't need to be Brady. The bills and McDermott haven't beaten BB yet to date....and for the Seattle weak D talk. The bills as of now only played The jet and the fins and the fins gave you a game....

 

I know some here hate to hear that..but its true. 

Ghost...please, Go away! back to your Pats***** board, and while on the way out of here, remember the fins have not only given your (Pats****) a game, but beat you a couple of times with Brady at the helm, 

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41 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 Cam Newton has gone to a SB. He doesn't need to be Brady. The bills and McDermott haven't beaten BB yet to date....and for the Seattle weak D talk. The bills as of now only played The jet and the fins and the fins gave you a game....

 

I know some here hate to hear that..but its true. 

I presume by the"you" that you are a Pats** fan. The parts of your statement that are "true" are events that have already happened. Beyond that, the Bills have racked up Offense, are 2-0 and ran into a well coached team on the road (a team which also did not make it easy for "your" team). 

Lets talk again after 11/1, shall we ? 

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11 minutes ago, BuffaLoko said:

Ghost...please, Go away! back to your Pats***** board, and while on the way out of here, remember the fins have not only given your (Pats****) a game, but beat you a couple of times with Brady at the helm, 

 

 

I will not go away. If you don't like opposing fans participating in threads. Put them ignore or just ignore their post.

 

And the difference with the fins given the pats trouble, the pats have gone on to win bigger games...

 

Slow down stop being sensitive...nobody here dissed the bills. This is football talk.

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2 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I presume by the"you" that you are a Pats** fan. The parts of your statement that are "true" are events that have already happened. Beyond that, the Bills have racked up Offense, are 2-0 and ran into a well coached team on the road (a team which also did not make it easy for "your" team). 

Lets talk again after 11/1, shall we ? 

Yes I am a pats fan. And you should go look at that pats vs fins game from wk 1 a little more...if it wasn't for a Harry fumble near the end zone. The pats would of been up 21-3...But he fumbled and the fins scored...but the game wasn't competitive...

 

as I stated if you want to factor in Seattle's weak D as a factor, then we can factor in fins and jets being weak opps.

 

If the shoe was on the other foot. I am sure the pats only playing the jets n the fins would of been brought up.

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3 hours ago, Like A Mofo said:

Before beginning I want to say, I am THRILLED over the moon at what we are seeing from Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs, the offense in general and at times the defense. What we COULD see here can potentially be VERY special for the next few years.

 

Having said this...

 

New England showed me last night by coming razor close to winning in Seattle that this is still a team we have to contend with. Newton looks different under a top coaching staff. Defense yes has holes but we all know Bill generally figures things out for his defense as things go along.

 

Talent is huge in sports as we know, but so is the mental aspect, and I still believe deep down inside New England Patriots, despite losing Brady, Gronk and other starters, still have a mental edge over the Buffalo Bills organization, until proven otherwise.

 

McDermott and the coaching staff have been excellent, but have had mixed results against the upper tier coaches in the NFL at least for now. Especially against Belichick. While last year we proved that we are very close to knocking through that door and taking command of the AFC East,  and I am FULLY confident the Bills can get over that hurdle, I am still taking this mindset until we truly knock them off, New England is the team to beat.

 

 

So Pats scored 3 offensive TDs, only ran for 67 yards with Cam gaining 47 of them.  Also gave up 155 Rushing yds and >5 yPC to Seahawks.  and allowed >10 Yds per attempt to Seahawks passing game along with 5 passing TDs and a 75% pass completion rate.  I saw a team that couldn't pressure a QB and struggled to cover downfield. I like the Bills chances against NE this year.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 Cam Newton has gone to a SB. He doesn't need to be Brady. The bills and McDermott haven't beaten BB yet to date....and for the Seattle weak D talk. The bills as of now only played The jet and the fins and the fins gave you a game....

 

I know some here hate to hear that..but its true. 

 

Your Pats* lost the game.........I know you hate to hear it......but it's true.

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1 minute ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Your Pats* lost the game.........I know you hate to hear it......but it's true.

they were also gifted a contact penalty at the end of the game by the refs to get them closer.

 

Seattle looked like the better team and this is not a particularly strong version of Caroll's Seahawks.

1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

Wrrrong! Not at all upset. They looked better than expected. Offense looked better than expected. 

You don't hate to hear that your team lost?

 

Weird.

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1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 Cam Newton has gone to a SB. He doesn't need to be Brady. The bills and McDermott haven't beaten BB yet to date....and for the Seattle weak D talk. The bills as of now only played The jet and the fins and the fins gave you a game....

 

I know some here hate to hear that..but its true. 

 

Truth, and I would point out that NE lost 8 players to opt'ing out and has a huge amount of cap space.  Perish the thought, but they will be better next year.  Our time is now, we have to establish ourselves THIS year.  Next year won't be an option if they win the division again this year and improve their team in the offseason with all that extra $$.  

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2 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

they were also gifted a contact penalty at the end of the game by the refs to get them closer.

 

Seattle looked like the better team and this is not a particularly strong version of Caroll's Seahawks.

You don't hate to hear that your team lost?

 

Weird.

 

Its called being logical.

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Just now, P Riv said:

 

Truth, and I would point out that NE lost 8 players to opt'ing out and has a huge amount of cap space.  Perish the thought, but they will be better next year.  Our time is now, we have to establish ourselves THIS year.  Next year won't be an option if they win the division again this year and improve their team in the offseason with all that extra $$.  

 

Ain't mad at all by any of this...take no shorts.

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1 minute ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

Its called being logical.

Lol, no its not.

 

You apparently don't understand that term. Maybe you're looking for "acceptance." Like, you "accept" that your team wasn't good enough to win. Which is fine. The Pats are particularly more vulnerable than they've been in a long time.

 

As a fan, you hate to hear it anytime your team loses.

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4 hours ago, Like A Mofo said:

Before beginning I want to say, I am THRILLED over the moon at what we are seeing from Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs, the offense in general and at times the defense. What we COULD see here can potentially be VERY special for the next few years.

 

Having said this...

 

New England showed me last night by coming razor close to winning in Seattle that this is still a team we have to contend with. Newton looks different under a top coaching staff. Defense yes has holes but we all know Bill generally figures things out for his defense as things go along.

 

Talent is huge in sports as we know, but so is the mental aspect, and I still believe deep down inside New England Patriots, despite losing Brady, Gronk and other starters, still have a mental edge over the Buffalo Bills organization, until proven otherwise.

 

McDermott and the coaching staff have been excellent, but have had mixed results against the upper tier coaches in the NFL at least for now. Especially against Belichick. While last year we proved that we are very close to knocking through that door and taking command of the AFC East,  and I am FULLY confident the Bills can get over that hurdle, I am still taking this mindset until we truly knock them off, New England is the team to beat.

 

 

Yes because 15-19 for 155 and 0/0 is far more impressive than 24-35, 417 and 4/0.  If we have Milano or Edmonds or both.  We'll destroy NE.  That Seattle D isn't what it used to be.  They were near the bottom of the league last season and lost 2 contributors.  One now plays on our Dline the other in Tennessee.

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Don’t know how good Seattle’s defense is. They’ve given up close to 1,000 yards in two games, and by the second quarter they’d lost their starting safety AND his backup.

 

Nothing can skew a game’s perception vs it’s reality quite like a defensive touchdown. That’s huge positive random variability for the Patriots.
 

New England seemed to have a game comparable to the one the Falcons played against the Seahawks last week. What does that mean? I’m not sure, but while Cam has looked very good so far, I don’t think this game against Seattle is quite the positive measure it would’ve been in years past, and I’m not sold that even this version of the matchup was as close as the score would indicate.

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4 hours ago, Captain Caveman said:

 

True, but this goes both ways

Yup lots of tape on our Offense.  All they have to do is shut down all three of our high caliber WRs take away our TE and shut down our 2 RBs and then stop Josh from running all over them.

 

Then somehow have Cam play well against a coach that knows him better than they likely do. 

 

Oh and when healthy our D gives McDaniels fits.

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6 minutes ago, Runningaces said:

No you wont clown. You will be crying like the ***** that you are after the game.

Hope allen teara that acl this week 

No I'll be bathing in Patriot tears after they realize that the Panthers discarded players that make a difference are all on our Roster.  

 

Look at the scoreboard.  The team to beat is the one with the 2-0 record.  You can always spot a loser because all they have to offer are insults.

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1 hour ago, Ghost_002! said:

 Cam Newton has gone to a SB. He doesn't need to be Brady. The bills and McDermott haven't beaten BB yet to date....and for the Seattle weak D talk. The bills as of now only played The jet and the fins and the fins gave you a game....

 

I know some here hate to hear that..but its true. 

I figure you and all the other new guys trumping for Cam are likely the same Patriot fan troll.

 

If that's the case I'd like to say welcome to the beginning of the end for you.

 

BTW.  At no point was I concerned about getting beat by the Dolphins who I think will be a better team than NE by seasons end.  NE will likely finish 2nd in the AFC East this season but not in 2021.  NE scored 21 playing against bad Fitz (Don't kid yourself into thinking you know more about Fitz than we do) with three gifts.  I couldn't imagine the score if he gifted us three picks.

I also likely know more about Newton that you do as I live in the Carolinas.

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44 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Lol, no its not.

 

You apparently don't understand that term. Maybe you're looking for "acceptance." Like, you "accept" that your team wasn't good enough to win. Which is fine. The Pats are particularly more vulnerable than they've been in a long time.

 

As a fan, you hate to hear it anytime your team loses.

 

 

No thats what its called,  being logical, logically thinking...its only week 2, the team is different from what  they were for over 20 years so given many factors losing to Seattle can be expected..

 

also their are rational fans and there are irrational fans. Hense this thread. OP and many other bills fans here are being very rational about what could lay ahead

 

And there are other fans here getting bent out of shape acting like people who believe the pats are still the team to beat aren't true fans...

 

Maybe by that thought. They think their GM is not a true bill fans because he echoed the same exact sentiment earlier this summer....until someone beats the pats they are still the champs..words from your GM.

 

9 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

I figure you and all the other new guys trumping for Cam are likely the same Patriot fan troll.

 

If that's the case I'd like to say welcome to the beginning of the end for you.

 

 

Ahh ok..

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New England is the team to beat till we beat them.

 

Anything else is just a bunch of chest-thumping non-sense about how good we are on paper or how well we have played against other teams. Does not matter till we dethrone that team.

 

Belichick will always have a well-prepared team, and the Bills will always be in a dog fight with them. They are not going to give us the division, the Bills are going to have to take it from them pure and simple.

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3 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

No thats what its called,  being logical, logically thinking...its only week 2, the team is different from what  they were for over 20 years so given many factors losing to Seattle can be expected..

 

also their are rational fans and there are irrational fans. Hense this thread. OP and many other bills fans here are being very rational about what could lay ahead

 

And there are other fans here getting bent out of shape acting like people who believe the pats are still the team to beat aren't true fans...

 

Maybe by that thought. They think their GM is not a true bill fans because he echoed the same exact sentiment earlier this summer about until someone beat the pats they are the champs..words from your GM.

 

 

 

Ahh ok..

Thats all fine and dandy. Getting back to the actual point though, you hate to hear your team lost.

 

You can't deny that if you're a fan and reasonably think any logical person will accept that statement as truth. 

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9 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:

Thats all fine and dandy. Getting back to the actual point though, you hate to hear your team lost.

 

You can't deny that if you're a fan and reasonably think any logical person will accept that statement as truth. 

 

 

You do realize everyone is different right. Up here everyone is pretty positive about last night's game..for reason's I already gave.

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Just now, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

You do realize everyone is different right. Up here everyone is pretty positive about last night's game..for reason's I already gave.

"Everyone" - is that a logical quantifier?

 

It sounds like you hate to hear it, but there are positive take-aways.

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16 minutes ago, WideNine said:

New England is the team to beat till we beat them.

 

Anything else is just a bunch of chest-thumping non-sense about how good we are on paper or how well we have played against other teams. Does not matter till we dethrone that team.

 

Belichick will always have a well-prepared team, and the Bills will always be in a dog fight with them. They are not going to give us the division, the Bills are going to have to take it from them pure and simple.

So if they are 1-6 and we are 7-0 then they are the team to beat by your logic.  So if they beat us both times and they finished 3-13 and we finished 14-2 they would somehow be awarded 1st in the East and the number 1 seed.😉

 

Is this kinda like the comp picks😁

10 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

 

You do realize everyone is different right. Up here everyone is pretty positive about last night's game..for reason's I already gave.

Yes, you sound like many Bills fans from 5 years ago.

Measuring your teams strength by the teams you almost beat.  It really is sad.  Oh how the mighty have fallen.

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7 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

 

Yes, you sound like many Bills fans from 5 years ago.

Measuring your teams strength by the teams you almost beat.  It really is sad.  Oh how the mighty have fallen.

 

Give me a sec. I am looking for that week 2 trophy 🏆 for you...hold on...

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Like A Mofo said:

Before beginning I want to say, I am THRILLED over the moon at what we are seeing from Josh Allen, Stefon Diggs, the offense in general and at times the defense. What we COULD see here can potentially be VERY special for the next few years.

 

Having said this...

 

New England showed me last night by coming razor close to winning in Seattle that this is still a team we have to contend with. Newton looks different under a top coaching staff. Defense yes has holes but we all know Bill generally figures things out for his defense as things go along.

 

Talent is huge in sports as we know, but so is the mental aspect, and I still believe deep down inside New England Patriots, despite losing Brady, Gronk and other starters, still have a mental edge over the Buffalo Bills organization, until proven otherwise.

 

McDermott and the coaching staff have been excellent, but have had mixed results against the upper tier coaches in the NFL at least for now. Especially against Belichick. While last year we proved that we are very close to knocking through that door and taking command of the AFC East,  and I am FULLY confident the Bills can get over that hurdle, I am still taking this mindset until we truly knock them off, New England is the team to beat.

 

 

No one said they weren't... even Beane said before the season ever began they were until they beat them.

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1 hour ago, Runningaces said:

No you wont clown. You will be crying like the ***** that you are after the game.

Hope allen teara that acl this week 

 

2 minutes ago, Ghost_002! said:

 

Give me a sec. I am looking for that week 2 trophy 🏆 for you...hold on...

 

 

 

 

 

Please tell me that "Runningaces" isn't a burner account of yours.

You signed out, this richard signed in then he signed out and you signed back in.

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15 minutes ago, formerlyofCtown said:

Lol.  That was pretty good but at least I'm looking at the correct season.  We are on the rise and have been.  You are on the decline.

I would hold off on the we are on the rise, you're on the decline stuff. We're 1 game ahead after ONLY  2 games. Woo hoo! I'm waiting to see how we do when Josh gets paid and we can't afford to be so deep. As to the OP, I agree. They ARE defending AFCE champs. 11 years straight. Until the Bills do it, they're the team to beat.

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5 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

The good thing concerning the Pats* is there will be a lot of tape on their offense by the time the Bills play them.

 

Tape always plays to NE*'s advantage.  Belichick is at his weakest early in the season when other teams haven't yet been taped extensively.

 

They are experts at exploiting game film.

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10 minutes ago, Dopey said:

I would hold off on the we are on the rise, you're on the decline stuff. We're 1 game ahead after ONLY  2 games. Woo hoo! I'm waiting to see how we do when Josh gets paid and we can't afford to be so deep. As to the OP, I agree. They ARE defending AFCE champs. 11 years straight. Until the Bills do it, they're the team to beat.

They went from Brady to Newton and Newton is 31.  Players have less desire to go play for Belichik.  I think they will decline slower than we did but they are on the decline.  They may not ever hit bottom but they are declining. 

 

Our QB is leading the league in passing yards even if it is after only 2 games.  When is the last time you could say that.

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