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Does the Moron in Chief know the meaning of that song? 

 

Donald Trump got off Air Force One on Thursday to Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Fortunate Son," a song about children of influential families who were able to avoid the Vietnam War draft.

 

 

Creedence Lyrics: Fortunate Son

Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief",
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son.
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no,

 

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

 

 

Does the Moron in Chief know the meaning of that song? 

 

Donald Trump got off Air Force One on Thursday to Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Fortunate Son," a song about children of influential families who were able to avoid the Vietnam War draft.

 

 

Creedence Lyrics: Fortunate Son

Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief",
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son.
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no,

 

 

 

 

 

It’s all part of the cosmic joke that is the Trump presidency.  The saddest part is that the people that he seems to hate the most are the ones who support him most ardently.  

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24 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

 

 

Does the Moron in Chief know the meaning of that song? 

 

Donald Trump got off Air Force One on Thursday to Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Fortunate Son," a song about children of influential families who were able to avoid the Vietnam War draft.

 

 

Creedence Lyrics: Fortunate Son

Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief",
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son.
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no,

 

 

 

 

In 2016 he had played Sympathy for the Devil as warm-up music. If I were one of those conspiracy theorists, I'd be saying "Pay Attention! He's right out there telling you that he's satan and that those who served in Vietnam were suckers." (Good thing I'm not)

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Donald Trump got off Air Force One on Thursday to Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Fortunate Son," a song about children of influential families

 

 

Creedence Lyrics: Fortunate Son

Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooh, they're red, white and blue.
It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son.
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no,

 

 

 

 

I would have thought they were future channeling the story of rat Hunter Biden

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So we have gotten that critical of the guy that we really attempt to denounce his choice of entrance music?   A song he literally didnt choose, and maybe had paid very little attention to his entire life?

 

Not everyone spends time diving head first into the meaning of song lyrics.   Especially those written by a band who sued their own lead singer!  Those capitalist jerks!

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9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

So we have gotten that critical of the guy that we really attempt to denounce his choice of entrance music?   A song he literally didnt choose, and maybe had paid very little attention to his entire life?

 

Not everyone spends time diving head first into the meaning of song lyrics.   Especially those written by a band who sued their own lead singer!  Those capitalist jerks!

It is actually pretty funny though in an ironic way.  Like all those dopey celebrities sending the healing gift of song by collaborating on "Imagine", a song about living with no possessions, recorded on a $1200 device that allows them to order a $12 half-caf-half-dark latte from the local  Starbucks, to be picked up after a short drive down the Pacific Coast highway in a $272,000 gas-munchin lambo.  

 

Kudos to @SlimShady'sSpaceForceon this find.  Somebody's head should roll on this one.  

 

 

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18 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

So we have gotten that critical of the guy that we really attempt to denounce his choice of entrance music?   A song he literally didnt choose, and maybe had paid very little attention to his entire life?

 

Not everyone spends time diving head first into the meaning of song lyrics.   Especially those written by a band who sued their own lead singer!  Those capitalist jerks!

 

This man "steals" aka uses music w/o the artists permission.  There are laws ... oh wait AO doesn't follow laws (like draft dodging)

 

He's above the law or so he thinks. 

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This man "steals" aka uses music w/o the artists permission.

 

He's above the law or so he thinks. 

The songs are registered with ASCAP or BMI. As long as the fees are paid, they can use what they want. I actual Nazis want to use them , as long as the fees are paid, OK. His staff picks the songs as to get the lefty snowflakes all riled up.

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This man "steals" aka uses music w/o the artists permission.  There are laws ... oh wait AO doesn't follow laws (like draft dodging)

 

He's above the law or so he thinks. 

 

 

So this is the straw that broke your particular camel's back?

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

 

This man "steals" aka uses music w/o the artists permission.  There are laws ... oh wait AO doesn't follow laws (like draft dodging)

 

He's above the law or so he thinks. 

Nope, I don't think so.  Speaking generally, the music can be used through licensing agreements that the artist agrees to.  What we often see is the artist who entered into said agreement raising an objection because they do not support the candidate.  There is no theft involved. 

 

https://ew.com/music/2018/11/05/can-musicians-stop-politicians-from-using-music/

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35 minutes ago, snafu said:

 

 

So this is the straw that broke your particular camel's back?

 

 

 


I guess you don’t see the irony there?

 

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cant stay on topic? 
 

7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Nope, I don't think so.  Speaking generally, the music can be used through licensing agreements that the artist agrees to.  What we often see is the artist who entered into said agreement raising an objection because they do not support the candidate.  There is no theft involved. 

 

https://ew.com/music/2018/11/05/can-musicians-stop-politicians-from-using-music/


how many artists have asked Don repeatedly to stop using their music?

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/28/all-the-artists-who-have-told-trump-to-stop-using-their-songs-at-his-rallies/amp/

 


17 are listed in the link 

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Does the Moron in Chief know the meaning of that song? 

 

Donald Trump got off Air Force One on Thursday to Creedence Clearwater Revival's "Fortunate Son," a song about children of influential families who were able to avoid the Vietnam War draft.

 

 

Creedence Lyrics: Fortunate Son

Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooh, they're red, white and blue.
And when the band plays "Hail to the chief",
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, Lord,

It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son.
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no,

 

 

 

 

Trump listening to music? I can't see that. Trump thinking about lyrics? Very much doubt that. 

 

 

The song basically mocks his life 

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It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son, son.
It ain't me, it ain't me; I ain't no fortunate one, no,

 

Trump was never a Senator unlike someone else we all know... 

59 minutes ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

There are laws ... oh wait AO doesn't follow laws (like draft dodging)

When exactly did you serve again?

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I guess you don’t see the irony there?

 


cant stay on topic? 
 


how many artists have asked Don repeatedly to stop using their music?

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/28/all-the-artists-who-have-told-trump-to-stop-using-their-songs-at-his-rallies/amp/

 


17 are listed in the link 

But you called it theft, implying the music was used illegally.  That's simply not the case. I understand the argument about an artist preferring their music not be used to support a political campaign, but they actively engage in the licensing because it makes them money.  There's no need to pretend it's something that it isn't. 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

But you called it theft, implying the music was used illegally.  That's simply not the case. I understand the argument about an artist preferring their music not be used to support a political campaign, but they actively engage in the licensing because it makes them money.  There's no need to pretend it's something that it isn't. 

 

 

 

Truth be told we don’t know whether the Trump campaign has paid its ASCAP/BMI fees.  It probably has.  But given the cash crunch it’s possible that was thrown overboard with the TV buys.  Who knows.  

 

Bottom line: utterly ironic choice of song here. 

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6 minutes ago, Cinga said:

 

Was he a f***ing Senator whose son got rich off his Dad's influence? 

 

I think the point of the song was that poor kids went to Vietnam and died, but the rich, privileged kids generally stayed home.  I wouldn’t take the lyrics too literally. 

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Truth be told we don’t know whether the Trump campaign has paid its ASCAP/BMI fees.  It probably has.  But given the cash crunch it’s possible that was thrown overboard with the TV buys.  Who knows.  

 

Bottom line: utterly ironic choice of song here. 

We also don't know that there isn't an artist somewhere who is about to claim credit for writing the song that John Fogarty claims to have written. Who knows? 

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3 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

We also don't know that there isn't an artist somewhere who is about to claim credit for writing the song that John Fogarty claims to have written. Who knows? 

 

Plot thickens, big boy:

 

https://deadline.com/2020/06/donald-trump-campaign-rolling-stones-songs-ascap-1202973371/

 

Looks like there is a little glimmer of possibility to the ASCAP/BMI issue.  Not saying that Trump is in the wrong here, but it’s reasonable to ask about the Fortunate Son use.  

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Plot thickens, big boy:

 

https://deadline.com/2020/06/donald-trump-campaign-rolling-stones-songs-ascap-1202973371/

 

Looks like there is a little glimmer of possibility to the ASCAP/BMI issue.  Not saying that Trump is in the wrong here, but it’s reasonable to ask about the Fortunate Son use.  

Define “glimmer” based on this article?l. Where is the criminality as it relates to “theft”? 

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26 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Define “glimmer” based on this article?l. Where is the criminality as it relates to “theft”? 

 

Who said anything about criminality?  Only you.  Unauthorized use is equivalent to theft.  And, based on the article, it looks like some licenses might not permit use in political contexts.  

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Who said anything about criminality?  Only you.  Unauthorized use is equivalent to theft.  And, based on the article, it looks like some licenses might not permit use in political contexts.  

@SlimShady'sSpaceForce mentioned theft, I replied to him originally.  It's not on me if you can't follow the topic.  

 

What was the "glimmer"---just to be clear, you used that word in a prior post---you referenced when linking to the article?  I read it in its entirety, then read it again, and was the "glimmer" that some licenses might not permit use in political context?  You never said. 

 

The article seems to be much more a "gotcha!' then anything of substance regarding DJT.   The story goes a bunch of aging and/or dead entertainers don't want their work used by a political candidate?   Has DJT and/or his campaign said "Screw that, we'll just use 'Won't back down" anyway?  Your link is much ado about nothing.  Though, personally, I do like to hear the thoughts of entertainers on issues like this when they share them, it helps me frame how/where I spend my money in the future. 

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3 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Nope, I don't think so.  Speaking generally, the music can be used through licensing agreements that the artist agrees to.  What we often see is the artist who entered into said agreement raising an objection because they do not support the candidate.  There is no theft involved. 

 

https://ew.com/music/2018/11/05/can-musicians-stop-politicians-from-using-music/

.correct...ASCAP and BMI are the musicians' licensing protectors if memory serves me.....

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Plot thickens, big boy:

 

https://deadline.com/2020/06/donald-trump-campaign-rolling-stones-songs-ascap-1202973371/

 

Looks like there is a little glimmer of possibility to the ASCAP/BMI issue.  Not saying that Trump is in the wrong here, but it’s reasonable to ask about the Fortunate Son use.  

 

If I was Trump I'd say fug 'em and play Frank's version instead.

 

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Numerous other acts have publicly objected to the use of their songs at Trump’s campaign rallies over the last four years, including ... Panic! at the Disco’s Brendon Urie, whose “High Hopes” played at Trump’s Phoenix event this week;

 

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Talking about sons found this pretty cool

 

Jimmy Carter reveals Willie Nelson's White House pot-smoking pal: 'One of my sons'

 

The former president is the subject of the new documentary, “Jimmy Carter: Rock & Roll President."

 

Jimmy Carter has set the record straight about who joined Willie Nelson in smoking pot on the roof of the White House during Carter's presidency.

 

It wasn't a White House staffer member, it was one of Carter's sons.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jimmy-carter-reveals-willie-nelsons-white-house-pot-smoking-pal-one-of-my-sons

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