B-Man Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 OBSERVATIONS by Steven Hayward I missed most of the debate last night, because it occurred during the dinner hour out here on the left coast, and dinner is a sacred institution in our household. But I saw enough to see why everyone thinks it stunk. I did, however, flip around to take in some of the post game show on several news channels, and I was struck by how uniformly glum the liberal network news types were. The subtext here was that Biden was weak in the face of Trump’s boorishness. The fact that so many media figures are saying the next two debates should be canceled is quite telling. I’m guessing they know Biden is going to wilt under the onslaught. About which: it is hardly a news flash that Trump can be a bully. But there may be a method to his seeming madness. Remember how Biden manhandled Paul Ryan in the 2012 debate by constantly interrupting and ridiculing Ryan? Ryan’s mistake was that he came prepared to debate policy ideas—silly wonk that he is—while Biden wanted to make Ryan look young and inexperienced. And he was successful at doing that with Ryan. Trump wasn’t about to let that happen, but along the way he did induce Biden into making several mistakes, such as refusing to answer about court packing, and getting Biden to back away from the Green New Deal. And ask yourself a simple question: who looked like the stronger person on that stage? That isn’t a close call. But finally, let’s also state something obvious. Despite what the media mandarins say, this is exactly the debate they wanted. Ignore all the high minded talk about wanting to debate “the issues.” The media live for spectacle, and zinger moments they can riff on for weeks and years. If the media wanted an actual debate on substance, a simple change in the format could accomplish this. Go back to something like the Lincoln-Douglas format. Allow each candidate 5 – 7 minutes to make a speech, and then have the other candidate give a 3 – 5 minute rebuttal. Then flip it around for the second issue, etc. Don’t have any back-and-forth. (I've been saying this for 30 years) The current format of two-minute answers plus back-and-forth was always going to degenerate into the WWF spectacle we saw last night. We’ve been trending that way for years. I think the real reason the media is disappointed in this debate is that it was so messy they don’t have clean zinger moments they can put on an endless loop on TV. More at the link: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/09/observations-2.php 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 55 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: The photos on that thread examining whatever was coming out of his cuffs (as well as that wire) ... verrrrryyyyy interesting, as they say. Here is what is coming out of his cuff. Did you see a wire on his chest? I didn't. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/technology/the-long-history-of-hidden-earpiece-conspiracy-theories.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 Joe Biden refused to condemn Antifa and even claimed they don't exist 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Joe Biden refused to condemn Antifa and even claimed they don't exist 😂 Trump's FBI FBI director says antifa is an ideology, not an organization Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 MATT MARGOLIS: Here’s How We Know Trump Won the First Debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, Rob's House said: Hoax. He's condemned white supremacy numerous times. https://speakingaboutnews.com/17-times-donald-trump-has-condemned-racism-and-white-supremacy/ If your credit is as poor as your credibility you'd be lucky to get a payday loan. Hoax. He refused to do so last night. Stand by, Proud Boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 A leftist will maintain his belief even when faced with incontrovertible proof to the contrary. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taro T Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Pretty sure he didn't say he was "the head of the Democrat party." Rather he said he IS the Democrat party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IDBillzFan Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, RochesterRob said: FIFY once again. Many Canadians will be in camps as well. It's always funny to me how Canadiens think we care about their opinions. If Canada wasn't America's hat, they'd have have surrendered to Haiti by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Taro T said: Pretty sure he didn't say he was "the head of the Democrat party." Rather he said he IS the Democrat party. I do wonder how that went over with the Bernie Bros, AOC fans, and the rest of "the squad"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: It's always funny to me how Canadiens think we care about their opinions. If Canada wasn't America's hat, they'd have have surrendered to Haiti by now. Canada is better than the USA, period. USA isn't great anymore. We're falling behind constantly. It's sad to see. Make America Great Britain Again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Taro T Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I do wonder how that went over with the Bernie Bros, AOC fans, and the rest of "the squad"? Can't believe it went over well w/ Pelosi, Shumer, or 44 either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Plano said: Canada is better than the USA, period. USA isn't great anymore. We're falling behind constantly. It's sad to see. Make America Great Britain Again How is Canada better than the USA? Where is Canada ahead of America? Curling trophies? First country to have a cross-dressing prime minister? Hell, they claim hockey as their sport and they can't even the Stanley Cup. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Plano Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: How is Canada better than the USA? Where is Canada ahead of America? Curling trophies? First country to have a cross-dressing prime minister? Hell, they claim hockey as their sport and they can't even the Stanley Cup. ask Trumps wife how much she likes Trudeau, she'll tell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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IDBillzFan Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Plano said: ask Trumps wife how much she likes Trudeau, she'll tell you. Yeah, okay. I should have figured you for another mindless troll. I mean, really, who the hell actually believes Canada is better than the US in any way beyond, maybe, availability of peameal bacon. C'mon back when you can grasp the concept of independent thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: Canada is better than the US in any way beyond, maybe, availability of peameal bacon. Much better beaches on the Great Lakes, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Yeah, okay. I should have figured you for another mindless troll. I mean, really, who the hell actually believes Canada is better than the US in any way beyond, maybe, availability of peameal bacon. C'mon back when you can grasp the concept of independent thought. Right, a cletus trumper telling me to grasp the concept of independent thought. Makes total sense. Wear that red hat and go drag those knuckles some more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Much better beaches on the Great Lakes, too Because the wind blows their S** io our shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: How is Canada better than the USA? Where is Canada ahead of America? Curling trophies? First country to have a cross-dressing prime minister? Hell, they claim hockey as their sport and they can't even the Stanley Cup. Umm, functional government? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Wacka said: Because the wind blows their S** io our shore. What a shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Plano said: Right, a cletus trumper telling me to grasp the concept of independent thought. Makes total sense. Wear that red hat and go drag those knuckles some more. Since I'm jumping in mid-stream and late, allow me to test your independent thought with two straightforward questions: Did Michael Cohen ever go to Prague? Did Trump and the Russians work together to steal the 2016 election? Yes or no answers only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said: ^^ Transplant has competition. The October trophy for stupidity here at PPP has Tiberius and 3rd Chair as odds on favorites to come in first and second place. Upstarts like this Plano guy don't have the gravitas to compete with the superior stupidity of those two. I'm not saying that he isn't stupid enough, but he just hasn't proved himself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Once again, this is why I could never be a Democrat. You have to be dumber than roach schitt to believe the Charlottesville crap Biden spewed last night. Shame on Chris Wallace for being that stupid as well. It's on freaking video. But Dems, again, are just too stupid to watch a video and see the lie for themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, IDBillzFan said: Once again, this is why I could never be a Democrat. You have to be dumber than roach schitt to believe the Charlottesville crap Biden spewed last night. Shame on Chris Wallace for being that stupid as well. It's on freaking video. But Dems, again, are just too stupid to watch a video and see the lie for themselves. They're programmed sheep. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Vice President Joe Biden: (18:53) By the way, I’m going to eliminate a significant number of the taxes. I’m going to make the corporate tax 28%. It shouldn’t be 21%. You have 91 companies federal, I mean, the fortune 500, who don’t pay a single penny in tax making billions of dollars. President Donald J. Trump: (19:09) Why didn’t you do it before, when you were vice president with Obama? Vice President Joe Biden: (19:12) Because you in fact passed that, that was your tax proposal. Just Trump here demanding to know why Joe Biden as Vice President didn't roll back Trump's own tax giveaway to billion dollar companies BEFORE Trump and Republicans passed that law years AFTER Obama and Biden left office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Case in point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER DOT COM Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: They're programmed sheep. Nothing more. WAKE UP SHEEPLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillStime Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 I could not agree more. The president mocks people in recovery... his opponent supports loved ones in recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Frankish Reich Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Since I'm jumping in mid-stream and late, allow me to test your independent thought with two straightforward questions: Did Michael Cohen ever go to Prague? Did Trump and the Russians work together to steal the 2016 election? Yes or no answers only. I love how you have the chutzpah to pull the “yes or no only” trick when you have NEVER given me a straight answer to my yes/no questions about exactly what parts of the Qniverse you believe to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 So it seems the president doesn't realize people fact check him during these.... Not to mention making up anything he wants. So funny to watch stuff like this happen b.c it cannot be anymore clear. It's why the gullible fools in PPP are forced to ignore it. "Sheriff in Portland denies Trump's debate claim of winning his endorsement | Fox News" https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sheriff-in-portland-denies-trumps-debate-claim-of-winning-his-endorsement.amp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 9 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: What did the FBI say about White Supremacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said: I love how you have the chutzpah to pull the “yes or no only” trick when you have NEVER given me a straight answer to my yes/no questions about exactly what parts of the Qniverse you believe to be true. That's because you've proven to be a dishonest person who isn't interested in a conversation. I gave you weeks worth of rope and respect to see, and you proved yourself incapable of either. Instead you have shown you're a liar who is more than willing to invent a person's position and argue with himself for hours on end about it. Sorry, slick. You don't get anything but the horns. And you earned them. Carry on your bid for taking over Tibs and Gary's spot as the biggest clown here ************************ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, BillStime said: Vice President Joe Biden: (18:53) By the way, I’m going to eliminate a significant number of the taxes. I’m going to make the corporate tax 28%. It shouldn’t be 21%. You have 91 companies federal, I mean, the fortune 500, who don’t pay a single penny in tax making billions of dollars. President Donald J. Trump: (19:09) Why didn’t you do it before, when you were vice president with Obama? Vice President Joe Biden: (19:12) Because you in fact passed that, that was your tax proposal. Just Trump here demanding to know why Joe Biden as Vice President didn't roll back Trump's own tax giveaway to billion dollar companies BEFORE Trump and Republicans passed that law years AFTER Obama and Biden left office. Why don't you actually quote what was said? You present this as a transcript but left part of it out? BTW, last night you posted the same crap over and over again. I have never reported anyone or called for a ban, but if you do that again I'm going to report you and I've got the feeling that many others will too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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