Tiberius Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Big Gun said: Boy are you going to be disappointed, these biased polls are bunk and you know it. If you dont know that by now you're pretty dumb. Dems traditionally vote early and have large leads where as Repubs vote late in person at the polls and will win the election. Trafalgar is a much more accurate poll. I believe the polls just because I look at Trump and wonder who the hell would vote for such a d-bag. What you guys see in that clown is beyond me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I believe the polls just because I look at Trump and wonder who the hell would vote for such a d-bag. What you guys see in that clown is beyond me. Latest Rasmussen for Florida https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/florida_trump_49_biden_46 Yeah and Biden is such a stand up guy right, give me a break! Edited October 23, 2020 by Big Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 23, 2020 Author Share Posted October 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Latest Rasmussen for Florida https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/florida_trump_49_biden_46 Yeah and Biden is such a stand up guy right, give me a break! Bidens a decent human being. Never heard anyone accuse Trump of being that. Biden doesn’t even need Florida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 31 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Bidens a decent human being. Never heard anyone accuse Trump of being that. Biden doesn’t even need Florida Truth. Rather than tit for tat poll references for Florida here is collection of poll data by different groups including Rasmussen which has a rather small sample size. https://www.270towin.com/2020-polls-biden-trump/florida/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 West Virginia: Trump vs. Biden WMOV Trump 58, Biden 38 Trump +20 😂🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: West Virginia: Trump vs. Biden WMOV Trump 58, Biden 38 Trump +20 😂🤣 That should cheer up the Trumplets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, SoTier said: That should cheer up the Trumplets. lmao. West Virginia & Kentucky. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 FOUR YEARS AGO THIS WEEKEND: Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL). “All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan boy '92 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 54 minutes ago, B-Man said: FOUR YEARS AGO THIS WEEKEND: Clinton Vaults to a Double-Digit Lead, Boosted by Broad Disapproval of Trump (POLL). “All told, Clinton leads Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, 50 to 38 percent, in the national survey, her highest support and his lowest to date in ABC News and ABC News/Washington Post polls.” Yup, they're called supression polls and were detailed in Podesta's emails stolen by SR/Russia! in 2016. Over sample democrats to scew the poll and depress the Republican vote. They're no secret, but they're effective. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Found this analysis interesting on Republican internal polling: https://www.kimt.com/content/national/572826622.html I looked at more than a dozen of these partisan polls released to the public from House and Senate races since the major party conventions in August. These partisan polls are notoriously unreliable, and none of them meet CNN standards for reporting. The reason is simple: Partisans don't want to release polls that are bad for their side. That means the polls sponsored by a party, candidate or partisan organization tend to be biased in favor of the side releasing the poll. That's why it was amazing to find that on average, Trump was doing 5 points worse than he did in 2016 in the states and districts in released Republican and conservative polls. If Trump actually did 5 points worse than he did in 2016 in the swing states, it would mean he'd lose Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Those states, plus the ones Hillary Clinton won in 2016, would be more than enough for Biden to get over 270 electoral votes. But remember: These are only the polls conservatives and Republicans were willing to put into the public sphere. There's good reason to believe it's worse for Trump in the numbers they're not releasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: Found this analysis interesting on Republican internal polling: https://www.kimt.com/content/national/572826622.html I looked at more than a dozen of these partisan polls released to the public from House and Senate races since the major party conventions in August. These partisan polls are notoriously unreliable, and none of them meet CNN standards for reporting. The reason is simple: Partisans don't want to release polls that are bad for their side. That means the polls sponsored by a party, candidate or partisan organization tend to be biased in favor of the side releasing the poll. That's why it was amazing to find that on average, Trump was doing 5 points worse than he did in 2016 in the states and districts in released Republican and conservative polls. If Trump actually did 5 points worse than he did in 2016 in the swing states, it would mean he'd lose Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Those states, plus the ones Hillary Clinton won in 2016, would be more than enough for Biden to get over 270 electoral votes. But remember: These are only the polls conservatives and Republicans were willing to put into the public sphere. There's good reason to believe it's worse for Trump in the numbers they're not releasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Amy thoughtful analysis today or just going to spam the board with YouTube videos that have nothing to do with the thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: Amy thoughtful analysis today or just going to spam the board with YouTube videos that have nothing to do with the thread? Who is Amy? Amy Coney Barrett will join the SCOTUS. Trump will be president for another term. My videos have to do with your mental deficiencies in terms of digesting current events with any sort of accuracy based on psychological flaws and programmed bias. You might qualify as a parrot or an echo in another life, not much else though... Don't worry though, we will all have a most excellent Thanksgiving this year. I am already grateful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Reality Check said: Who is Amy? Amy Coney Barrett will join the SCOTUS. Trump will be president for another term. My videos have to do with your mental deficiencies in terms of digesting current events with any sort of accuracy based on psychological flaws and programmed bias. You might qualify as a parrot or an echo in another life, not much else though... Don't worry though, we will all have a most excellent Thanksgiving this year. I am already grateful. Awesome to know. You seem more of an NPC parroting right wing talking points than digesting any sort of real news. The article I brought up was to look at Republican internal polls. These are showing Trump doing worse than 2016. These thoughts have been echoed by the Republican senators who are distancing themselves. Just yesterday Trump said they're likely to lose the Senate as well. Why do they think these things? Republican internal polling. Republican Senators Ben Sesse with actual look at Republican internal polling said: “We are staring down the barrel of a blue tsunami" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Backintheday544 said: Awesome to know. You seem more of an NPC parroting right wing talking points than digesting any sort of real news. The article I brought up was to look at Republican internal polls. These are showing Trump doing worse than 2016. These thoughts have been echoed by the Republican senators who are distancing themselves. Just yesterday Trump said they're likely to lose the Senate as well. Why do they think these things? Republican internal polling. Republican Senators Ben Sesse with actual look at Republican internal polling said: “We are staring down the barrel of a blue tsunami" You seem addicted to propaganda and self-delusion. That is your problem, not mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 hours ago, SoTier said: That should cheer up the Trumplets. I thought they needed some good news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 hours ago, Backintheday544 said: Amy thoughtful analysis today or just going to spam the board with YouTube videos that have nothing to do with the thread? nope, no thoughts at all. clearly just likes spamming youtube videos and being a trumpbot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Plano said: nope, no thoughts at all. clearly just likes spamming youtube videos and being a trumpbot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 40 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Awww. No voice of your own so you need to speak through YouTube videos yet again. I honestly feel bad for you and hope you can find the help you need to one day express your own opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 On 10/23/2020 at 12:11 PM, Tiberius said: I like the brunette the best, but would be willing to reconsider after more through investigation On 10/23/2020 at 12:13 PM, BuffaloHokie13 said: She is correctly identified as a 10, per her wrist label Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) On 10/25/2020 at 7:15 AM, Reality Check said: That is an ugly blue door not a poll, no oversampling, no dishonest answers, just data driven. http://primarymodel.com/2020-1 Edited October 28, 2020 by Gary M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 We are starting to get the final wave of pre-election day polls. And not surprisingly ... very little change. This one isn't really a poll, but it provides some sound explanations for why. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/election-live-updates-trump-biden-2020-10-28/card/x2JHukTnPfUAWLWT2qHE A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey has found no evidence, so far, of the kind of late surge toward President Trump among undecided voters that helped produce his unexpected wins in 2016. When pollsters asked themselves how so many missed signs that Mr. Trump would win the 2016 election, one factor they identified was a late swing toward him in the last days of the campaign. About 13% of voters in Wisconsin, Florida and Pennsylvania settled on their candidate choice in the week before the last election, a report by a professional association of opinion researchers found. Those voters broke for Mr. Trump by 30 percentage points in Wisconsin and by 17 points in Florida and Pennsylvania, helping to deliver narrow victories, the study said. This month, the Journal/NBC News poll went looking for signs of a similar, late shift—and found a different picture than in 2016. Undecided voters seem to be moving equally toward both presidential candidates. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted October 28, 2020 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said: Oh, hope that is it. 50% mark looks real good. What a win that would be and the Senate seats! That Purdue is a POS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: We are starting to get the final wave of pre-election day polls. And not surprisingly ... very little change. This one isn't really a poll, but it provides some sound explanations for why. https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/election-live-updates-trump-biden-2020-10-28/card/x2JHukTnPfUAWLWT2qHE A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News survey has found no evidence, so far, of the kind of late surge toward President Trump among undecided voters that helped produce his unexpected wins in 2016. When pollsters asked themselves how so many missed signs that Mr. Trump would win the 2016 election, one factor they identified was a late swing toward him in the last days of the campaign. About 13% of voters in Wisconsin, Florida and Pennsylvania settled on their candidate choice in the week before the last election, a report by a professional association of opinion researchers found. Those voters broke for Mr. Trump by 30 percentage points in Wisconsin and by 17 points in Florida and Pennsylvania, helping to deliver narrow victories, the study said. This month, the Journal/NBC News poll went looking for signs of a similar, late shift—and found a different picture than in 2016. Undecided voters seem to be moving equally toward both presidential candidates. The higher turn out also should make the polls more accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Today's flurry of polls: Other than the Rasmussen outlier and maybe the Emerson national poll, we're still seeing: - remarkable consistency in the lead for Biden - an actual shift toward Biden in some swing states, corresponding with an overall shift of a few points toward Dems in general There's a lot of debate about what that ABC/Wash Post outlier for Wisconsin means/doesn't mean (Biden + 17!). Consensus seems to be that it's part real, part statistical blip. The argument for "real" is that the horrible COVID numbers in Wisconsin are driving people away from Trump and toward Biden, and indeed that does seem to be a theme whenever and wherever we see bad regional outbreaks. Race/Topic (Click to Sort) Poll Results Spread General Election: Trump vs. Biden Emerson Biden 50, Trump 45 Biden +5 General Election: Trump vs. Biden Rasmussen Reports Biden 47, Trump 48 Trump +1 General Election: Trump vs. Biden Economist/YouGov Biden 54, Trump 43 Biden +11 General Election: Trump vs. Biden vs. Jorgensen vs. Hawkins IBD/TIPP Biden 50, Trump 45, Jorgensen 2, Hawkins 1 Biden +5 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden Trafalgar Group (R)* Biden 48, Trump 47 Biden +1 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden ABC News/Wash Post* Biden 57, Trump 40 Biden +17 Michigan: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 49, Trump 41 Biden +8 Michigan: Trump vs. Biden ABC News/Wash Post* Biden 51, Trump 44 Biden +7 North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden Civitas/Harper (R)* Biden 47, Trump 46 Biden +1 Georgia: Trump vs. Biden Monmouth* Trump 46, Biden 50 Biden +4 Maine: Trump vs. Biden Colby College Biden 51, Trump 38 Biden +13 Maine CD2: Trump vs. Biden Colby College Trump 42, Biden 46 Biden +4 Virginia: Trump vs. Biden Christopher Newport Univ. Biden 53, Trump 41 Biden +12 Maine Senate - Collins vs. Gideon Colby College* Gideon 47, Collins 43 Gideon +4 Michigan Senate - James vs. Peters NY Times/Siena* Peters 49, James 41 Peters +8 Georgia Senate - Perdue vs. Ossoff Monmouth* Perdue 47, Ossoff 49 Ossoff +2 Michigan Senate - James vs. Peters ABC News/Wash Post Peters 52, James 46 Peters +6 North Carolina Senate - Tillis vs. Cunningham Civitas/Harper (R)* Cunningham 46, Tillis 43 Cunningham +3 Georgia Senate Special Election - Open Primary Monmouth Warnock 41, Collins 19, Loeffler 22, Lieberman 4, Slowinski 2, Tarver 3 Warnock +19 Michigan Senate - James vs. Peters Detroit News/WDIV-TV Peters 48, James 39 Peters +9 Virginia Senate - Gade vs. Warner Christopher Newport Univ. Warner 57, Gade 37 Warner +20 Maine 2nd District - Crafts vs. Golden Colby College Golden 56, Crafts 31 Golden +25 President Trump Job Approval Emerson Approve 45, Disapprove 51 Disapprove +6 President Trump Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 52, Disapprove 47 Approve +5 President Trump Job Approval Economist/YouGov Approve 42, Disapprove 56 Disapprove +14 Congressional Job Approval Economist/YouGov Approve 15, Disapprove 68 Disapprove +53 2020 Generic Congressional Vote Economist/YouGov Democrats 52, Republicans 42 Democrats +10 Direction of Country Economist/YouGov Right Direction 30, Wrong Track 65 Wrong Track +35 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-10-28/analysis-tossup-states-grow-but-biden-still-leads-in-electoral-college-projection Thought this was interesting basically says the number of toss ups has increased from both sides. But the numbers for Trump were interesting with him having 163 with only 96 tossups doesn't exactly add up well for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden NBC News/Marist Biden 52, Trump 46 Biden +6 Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Tiberius said: North Carolina: Trump vs. Biden NBC News/Marist Biden 52, Trump 46 Biden +6 Yup Hahaha... so which poll is more accurate? A biased NBC news poll or the unbiased Trafalger Group. This is from Oct 25th NC Oct 2020 Presidential Poll Donald Trump 48.8% Joe Biden 46.0% Jo Jorgensen 2.3% Howie Hawkins 0.4% Don Blankenship 0.2% Someone Else 0.6% Undecided 1.7% See Report Here Edited October 30, 2020 by Big Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Hahaha... so which poll is more accurate? A biased NBC news poll or the unbiased Trafalger Group. This is from Oct 25th NC Oct 2020 Presidential Poll Donald Trump 48.8% Joe Biden 46.0% Jo Jorgensen 2.3% Howie Hawkins 0.4% Don Blankenship 0.2% Someone Else 0.6% Undecided 1.7% See Report Here Trafalger gets promoted by Trump all the time. That's a pretty damning indictment to their credibility. I'll just say this, i really think NC goes Dem. I'll explain. Obama won in 2008 and theres been a lot of change there since. Mitt won it back and then in 2016 Trump won but the Dems captured the governors mansion, so it seems Hillary was the reason Dems lost Presidential vote there. . It's a Democratic state in the making with the growing cities and more diverse population. Only time will tell now, though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Trafalger gets promoted by Trump all the time. That's a pretty damning indictment to their credibility. I'll just say this, i really think NC goes Dem. I'll explain. Obama won in 2008 and theres been a lot of change there since. Mitt won it back and then in 2016 Trump won but the Dems captured the governors mansion, so it seems Hillary was the reason Dems lost Presidential vote there. . It's a Democratic state in the making with the growing cities and more diverse population. Only time will tell now, though. They literally say they skew in his favor to apparently cover for "shy voters" or some BS. 538 rates them as C- and they've been correct 75% of the time. But they're the only unbiased poll for some totally unbiased reason I'm sure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: They literally say they skew in his favor to apparently cover for "shy voters" or some BS. 538 rates them as C- and they've been correct 75% of the time. But they're the only unbiased poll for some totally unbiased reason I'm sure. Republican pollsters like tralafagar got lucky in 2016 because all the undecids broke for Trump at the last second mostly because of Comey opening up the Hillary investigation. Since there's less undecideds this time the polls should be more accurate. I just go with the averages like the midterms. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, Big Gun said: Hahaha... so which poll is more accurate? A biased NBC news poll or the unbiased Trafalger Group. This is from Oct 25th NC Oct 2020 Presidential Poll Donald Trump 48.8% Joe Biden 46.0% Jo Jorgensen 2.3% Howie Hawkins 0.4% Don Blankenship 0.2% Someone Else 0.6% Undecided 1.7% See Report Here So if Biden was winning in that poll it would be biased right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 1 hour ago, TBBills said: So if Biden was winning in that poll it would be biased right? Chinese propaganda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 17 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Republican pollsters like tralafagar got lucky in 2016 because all the undecids broke for Trump at the last second mostly because of Comey opening up the Hillary investigation. Since there's less undecideds this time the polls should be more accurate. I just go with the averages like the midterms. outside of WI, 2016 RCP averages were pretty accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Backintheday544 said: outside of WI, 2016 RCP averages were pretty accurate. True. Most states were within the margin of error. The problem wasn't so much the polls but the interpretation of the polls. Again, the major difference this year is Biden getting 49% or above in the polling average because there are less undecideds. Wisconsin is pry the best example of nearly all the undecideds going to Trump. There were the most undecideds in Wisconsin as the rcp average was 46.8% for Clinton and 40.3% for Trump. Trump won 47.2% to 46.7%. Hillary was a weak candidate but people tend to underestimate how bad that Comey letter was for the large amount of undecideds. Pollsters are done if Trump wins these states down four to six points in the averages this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: True. Most states were within the margin of error. The problem wasn't so much the polls but the interpretation of the polls. Again, the major difference this year is Biden getting 49% or above in the polling average because there are less undecideds. Wisconsin is pry the best example of nearly all the undecideds going to Trump. There were the most undecideds in Wisconsin as the rcp average was 46.8% for Clinton and 40.3% for Trump. Trump won 47.2% to 46.7%. Hillary was a weak candidate but people tend to underestimate how bad that Comey letter was for the large amount of undecideds. Pollsters are done if Trump wins these states down four to six points in the averages this time. Yup, the Comey thing was a terrible blow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 1, 2020 Author Share Posted November 1, 2020 Just a note, the polls from NC look great for Biden, and that is a spike to the heart of the devil Trump Results Spread Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 49, Trump 43 Biden +6 Florida: Trump vs. Biden St. Pete Polls Biden 49, Trump 48 Biden +1 Florida: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 47, Trump 44 Biden +3 Florida: Trump vs. Biden ABC News/Wash Post* Biden 48, Trump 50 Trump +2 Wisconsin: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 52, Trump 41 Biden +11 Arizona: Trump vs. Biden NY Times/Siena* Biden 49, Trump 43 Biden +6 Pennsylvania: Trump vs. Biden ABC News/Wash Post* Biden 51, Trump 44 Biden +7 New Mexico: Trump vs. Biden Albuquerque Journal Biden 54, Trump 42 Biden +12 Arizona Senate - McSally vs. Kelly NY Times/Siena Kelly 50, McSally 43 Kelly +7 New Mexico Senate - Ronchetti vs. Lujan Albuquerque Journal* Lujan 52, Ronchetti 44 Lujan +8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Pollster who called 2016 for Trump says he'll win again In 2016, Robert Cahaly of The Trafalgar Group used unorthodox polling to correctly predict five swing states and Donald Trump's electoral college tally. Rebuffing skeptics, he says undercounted voters will again elect Trump.Source: CNN https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/10/31/the-outlier-pollster-who-called-2016-for-trump-says-hell-win-again.cnn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 Red Wave coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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