Buffalo Sabres & NHL 2020-2021

[TBBills]

12 hours ago, SinceThe70s said:

 

Wait, what? Sabres give him an 8 year $72 mill deal. He responds with 6 goals  in 50 games. And the Sabres ruined his career? How so?

 

His first year went well... Then they got krueger

[Greg S]

15 hours ago, K-9 said:

Wow, Barzal benched tonight. First missed game in something like four years. Amazing. 
 

The Isles, ruining careers one player at a time. 

 

These games are meaningless to the Isles. They did what they had to do to clinch a playoff spot with B2B shutout wins over the Rangers. They have no shot at home ice so they are probably sitting players to give them a rest.  JP Pageau didn't play Monday probably for the same reason. 

[K-9]

3 hours ago, Greg S said:

 

These games are meaningless to the Isles. They did what they had to do to clinch a playoff spot with B2B shutout wins over the Rangers. They have no shot at home ice so they are probably sitting players to give them a rest.  JP Pageau didn't play Monday probably for the same reason. 

Oh, no doubt. My post was totally tongue in cheek. 

[Greg S]

Rangers fire John Davidson, Jeff Gorton in shocking move (nypost.com)

 

I wonder if the Sabres look to Davidson or Gorton. I don't know why I can't post the link here but the story it is up at the New York Post.

[BillsFan4]

1 hour ago, Greg S said:

Rangers fire John Davidson, Jeff Gorton in shocking move (nypost.com)

 

I wonder if the Sabres look to Davidson or Gorton. I don't know why I can't post the link here but the story it is up at the New York Post.

The Sabres should be calling Davidson immediately! I don’t see them having interest in Gorton unless it’s an AGM role (which I doubt he’s interested in).

But I can’t think of a more perfect hire than Davidson as team president. It would be a home run hire IMO. But I’d be surprised if he had interest in Buffalo. I’m sure he’ll have plenty of other offers.

[May Day 10]

The Sabres should absolutely talk to Davidson and make him the highest ranking executive. 

 

 

Will they?  Not a chance.  

[BillsFan4]

30 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

The Sabres should absolutely talk to Davidson and make him the highest ranking executive. 

 

 

Will they?  Not a chance.  

Sadly, this is probably true. 😢

[BillsFan4]

 

really interested to see how Drury does. He’s turned down a number of other GM interviews over the years (including an interview with the Sabres) and even a couple of GM jobs iirc. Curious to see if he’s the next Steve Yzerman (hope not!) or if the hype was unwarranted.

[K-9]

42 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

The Sabres should be calling Davidson immediately! I don’t see them having interest in Gorton unless it’s an AGM role (which I doubt he’s interested in).

But I can’t think of a more perfect hire than Davidson as team president. It would be a home run hire IMO. But I’d be surprised if he had interest in Buffalo. I’m sure he’ll have plenty of other offers.

Is there room for another assistant GM in addition to Karmanos? 

[BillsFan4]

2 hours ago, K-9 said:

Is there room for another assistant GM in addition to Karmanos? 

I would obviously say yes. But I think Adams did mention something about adding to the front office staff, so hopefully!

 

I would be somewhat surprised if Gorton doesn’t get other GM looks though. Vancouver seems like a good potential fit (if they move in from Benning). I’d be all about adding Gorton if he was interested though.
 

Id be good with Gorton as our GM but I don’t see that happening (and it’s probably unfair to give up on Adams so quickly anyway). He put together a really nice team quickly in NY. But he also had the advantage of the NYC draw. Seems like every free agent wants to play in MSG.

Edited May 5, 2021 by BillsFan4

[PromoTheRobot]

3 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

The Sabres should absolutely talk to Davidson and make him the highest ranking executive. 

 

 

Will they?  Not a chance.  

 

Why? Davidson is a fairly mediocre exec.

[4merper4mer]

13 hours ago, TBBills said:

His first year went well... Then they got krueger

Shirley

[BillsFan4]

13 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Why? Davidson is a fairly mediocre exec.

I mean, he’s not Tod Lieweke or Brendan Shanahan. But he’s better than our current team president, by a mile. I think he’s done a pretty good job with every team he’s been with.

 

The Blues was a “learning on the job” team, but they steadily improved during his time there and they have been a consistent winner ever since. A lot of the guys he helped draft eventually helped STL win a Cup.

 

Columbus was a rudderless team before he came on board (very similar to Buffalo) with 1 playoff appearances in their entire history and they made the playoffs 4x in his 7yrs there and were steadily improving before he left (and before this season).

They had 5 of their best ever seasons under Davidson and were the 9th best team in the league (by wins) during his tenure (and 4th in wins during his last 3 years there). 

 

 

and the NYR have blown by the Sabres rebuild in 1/3 of the time.

 

Hes helped put together some very strong NHL front offices and scouting staffs.
 

 

He’s a well respected front office exec and would bring instant respectability to Buffalo’s front office (something they desperately need IMO). He hasn’t been out of work for more than 3 weeks as a team president.

 

He’s also a good person, so I think he would fit the “culture” requirements of the Pegulas.

[Greg S]

Living in NJ I can tell everyone that Rangers fans are upset about these firings. They thought both JD and Jeff Gorton were doing a good job with the rebuild. The Sabres should look to speak with both of them unless the Pegula's are happy with their current FO.

[May Day 10]

1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

I mean, he’s not Tod Lieweke or Brendan Shanahan. But he’s better than our current team president, by a mile. I think he’s done a pretty good job with every team he’s been with.

 

The Blues was a “learning on the job” team, but they steadily improved during his time there and they have been a consistent winner ever since. A lot of the guys he helped draft eventually helped STL win a Cup.

 

Columbus was a rudderless team before he came on board (very similar to Buffalo) with 1 playoff appearances in their entire history and they made the playoffs 4x in his 7yrs there and were steadily improving before he left (and before this season).

They had 5 of their best ever seasons under Davidson and were the 9th best team in the league (by wins) during his tenure (and 4th in wins during his last 3 years there). 

 

 

and the NYR have blown by the Sabres rebuild in 1/3 of the time.

 

Hes helped put together some very strong NHL front offices and scouting staffs.
 

 

He’s a well respected front office exec and would bring instant respectability to Buffalo’s front office (something they desperately need IMO). He hasn’t been out of work for more than 3 weeks as a team president.

 

He’s also a good person, so I think he would fit the “culture” requirements of the Pegulas.

 

absolutely yes to all this.  

[PromoTheRobot]

2 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

I mean, he’s not Tod Lieweke or Brendan Shanahan. But he’s better than our current team president, by a mile. I think he’s done a pretty good job with every team he’s been with.

 

The Blues was a “learning on the job” team, but they steadily improved during his time there and they have been a consistent winner ever since. A lot of the guys he helped draft eventually helped STL win a Cup.

 

Columbus was a rudderless team before he came on board (very similar to Buffalo) with 1 playoff appearances in their entire history and they made the playoffs 4x in his 7yrs there and were steadily improving before he left (and before this season).

They had 5 of their best ever seasons under Davidson and were the 9th best team in the league (by wins) during his tenure (and 4th in wins during his last 3 years there). 

 

 

and the NYR have blown by the Sabres rebuild in 1/3 of the time.

 

Hes helped put together some very strong NHL front offices and scouting staffs.
 

 

He’s a well respected front office exec and would bring instant respectability to Buffalo’s front office (something they desperately need IMO). He hasn’t been out of work for more than 3 weeks as a team president.

 

He’s also a good person, so I think he would fit the “culture” requirements of the Pegulas.

 

The same ol' "we're the worst so someone bad is better than what we got" argument? There are dozens of better options than him.

On 5/4/2021 at 5:01 PM, TBBills said:

The Sabres ruining careers one player at a time

 

 

Orrrr, Skinner actually sucks.

[shrader]

17 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

Why? Davidson is a fairly mediocre exec.

 

Throw him on the broadcast team instead

 

Edited May 6, 2021 by shrader

[BillsFan4]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

The same ol' "we're the worst so someone bad is better than what we got" argument? There are dozens of better options than him.

 

Orrrr, Skinner actually sucks.

Like who?
 

IMO There aren’t even dozens of currently employed team presidents that are better than him, let alone dozens that are available (at least that I know of). I’d rank him in the top 10 as far as team presidents go.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:NHL_team_presidents

There are about 6-7 guys definitely ahead of him, and then IMO he’s in the conversation with a few guys for who would come next.

 

 

He rebuild STL front office and scouting staff and the team has been a perennial contender ever since his time there.

 

He completely rebuild Columbus’s front office, scouting staff and team from league joke to one of the more well respected front offices and scouting staffs in the NHL.

(exactly what needs to happen in Buffalo)

 

Both STL and COL consistently improved during his time there and he left with both teams having winning records.

 

He also did a pretty great job in NY.

 

I don’t get what’s so unattractive about him?

 

[TBBills]

4 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Orrrr, Skinner actually sucks

If this wasn't the Sabres organization we were talking about I would agree with you...

[snafu]

4 hours ago, shrader said:

 

Throw him on the broadcast team instead

 

 

 

 

 

 

[K-9]

5 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Orrrr, Skinner actually sucks.

Skinner really fell off a cliff. Scored 36 goals in his first 57 games with the Sabres and 24 goals in 135 games since (4 in his final 25 games in ‘18-‘19, 14 in 59 games in ‘19-‘20, and 6 in the 51 games so far this season). He’s done.

[SinceThe70s]

8 hours ago, Greg S said:

Living in NJ I can tell everyone that Rangers fans are upset about these firings. They thought both JD and Jeff Gorton were doing a good job with the rebuild. The Sabres should look to speak with both of them unless the Pegula's are happy with their current FO.

 

My  Ranger fan friends didn't like the firings but their biggest problem with the team is it's all talent and no grit. And they were saying that before the season started. But that's what JD and Gorton had built to date.  

[TBBills]

The NHL is a dead sport anymore. Run by a bunch of idiots who want to destroy it.

[Greg S]

3 hours ago, TBBills said:

The NHL is a dead sport anymore. Run by a bunch of idiots who want to destroy it.

 

The league certainly didn't handle the Tom Wilson incident this week well. NHL = WWE on skates.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

14 hours ago, snafu said:

 

 

 

 

 

No more egg-zegg-u-divz unlezz dey are da drue fran-go-vones, and dalk dat good bro-gen Eng-lish, eh?

[4merper4mer]

16 hours ago, TBBills said:

If this wasn't the Sabres organization we were talking about I would agree with you...

He sucked before he was with the Sabres and if they can manage to rid themselves of him he’ll suck wherever he goes.  He plays one of the least complete games imaginable.  He has shown nothing indicating he wants to improve.  He hangs out at the blue line waiting for the breakout pass.  He hasn’t changed and the only fault the Sabres have is having signed him.  He’s terrible.

15 hours ago, K-9 said:

Skinner really fell off a cliff. Scored 36 goals in his first 57 games with the Sabres and 24 goals in 135 games since (4 in his final 25 games in ‘18-‘19, 14 in 59 games in ‘19-‘20, and 6 in the 51 games so far this season). He’s done.

The minute he didn’t have Eichel spoon feeding him he was done scoring.  He always sucked in every single other aspect of the game.  It’s like a golfer who can one putt every green but takes 37 shots to get to the green.  There are some incredible highlights but it doesn’t belong on the PGA tour.  

[BillsFan4]

 

what a crap year to have the best odds at #1 overall. Well, at least I won’t be nervous watching the draft lottery drawing this year! 😂

[K-9]

9 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

 

what a crap year to have the best odds at #1 overall. Well, at least I won’t be nervous watching the draft lottery drawing this year! 😂

Agree entirely. You can take the top 10 rated prospects, put their names in a hat, pull one out and he would be just as deserving to go number one overall as the other nine. There’s just no clear cut player at the top. Regardless, it will be years before anyone we select will be in the lineup anyway. 

[4merper4mer]

On 5/7/2021 at 10:11 AM, K-9 said:

Agree entirely. You can take the top 10 rated prospects, put their names in a hat, pull one out and he would be just as deserving to go number one overall as the other nine. There’s just no clear cut player at the top. Regardless, it will be years before anyone we select will be in the lineup anyway. 

If they lose Ullmark to FA they really need to take a goalie.  Ukka Pooka Sambuca ain’t going to cut it.

[BillsFan4]

 

[Nextmanup]

17 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

If they lose Ullmark to FA they really need to take a goalie.  Ukka Pooka Sambuca ain’t going to cut it.

UPL is still a way's away from being ready for the NHL.  Way too early to declare his career over though.

 

I would like to see us move on from Ullmark and get a better No. 1 goalie if we can.

 

This team hasn't had sound goaltending in a while now.

 

 

[4merper4mer]

2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:

UPL is still a way's away from being ready for the NHL.  Way too early to declare his career over though.

 

I would like to see us move on from Ullmark and get a better No. 1 goalie if we can.

 

This team hasn't had sound goaltending in a while now.

 

 

Didn’t they draft that dude in like 1978?  He’s not going to cut it.

[YoloinOhio]

Eichel went scorched earth on the Sabres in his end of season presser 😳

 

 

[Jauronimo]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Eichel went scorched earth on the Sabres in his end of season presser 😳

This might be the first post you've ever had that did not include a tweet.  Context please.

[YoloinOhio]

1 minute ago, Jauronimo said:

This might be the first post you've ever had that did not include a tweet.  Context please.

Oh I added them don’t worry! 

[May Day 10]

what an absolute cluster mess this organization is.  

[K-9]

See ya, Jack. And Samson, and Risto, and Jake. Hate to see Jack go since we simply can’t win any trade in the short term because we won’t be getting a player nearly as good. But it’s time. We will continue to set new league records for playoff droughts each of the next several years until this latest rebuild is done. 
 

Thank god we have a foundation like Skinner to build upon. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[May Day 10]

Its terrible all around.  Not a fan of Eichel either TBH.  

[YoloinOhio]

Apparently he and Chris drury share an agent ... not sure what the Sabres can get from them in return though. Cbj have 3 1st round picks but this draft doesn’t have an elite nhl ready player from what I understand ..