fansince88 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Capco said: Sorry I was just bored waiting for dinner (Italian sausage and pasta btw, @Sig1Hunter ?) and used that opportunity to butt in. To answer you in the simplest terms, I'm voting for Biden because he is the more left-leaning candidate. Every presidential election I've voted in since 2008 (I became eligible in 2007) has been on that premise. I'm a lefty. Thanks for the complete honesty. I lean right. Guns God and Country for me. Have been moving slightly libertarian lately but jist cant grasp it 100% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Community policing or COPS was all the rage in LA post 1992. It's not that it hasn't been tried across the US and it's had success in places. It's just an awful lot of political will, work and money, and it takes years. If the people driving it leave, or are replaced by more Parker/Gates theorists, it can disappear as quickly as it arrives. Do the police need reform? Yes, nationwide. For at least 50 years now. Would I disbanded local law enforcement in a pandemic/civil unrest/election year? No. I'm not that rash. You're putting all your residents in a lot of unnecessary danger, and I wouldn't want to give these governors or this President an excuse to send in the troops. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, fansince88 said: Thanks for the complete honesty. I lean right. Guns God and Country for me. Have been moving slightly libertarian lately but jist cant grasp it 100% That's pretty much where I'm at, live and let live, smaller government and states rights. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Reality Check said: These new super leftists on here are the best versions yet. This new material is fascinating. I just love propaganda. Yeah, but who is the stupid F*** that's write this sh1t for them? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, dpberr said: Community policing or COPS was all the rage in LA post 1992. It's not that it hasn't been tried across the US and it's had success in places. It's just an awful lot of political will, work and money, and it takes years. If the people driving it leave, or are replaced by more Parker/Gates theorists, it can disappear as quickly as it arrives. Do the police need reform? Yes, nationwide. For at least 50 years now. Would I disbanded local law enforcement in a pandemic/civil unrest/election year? No. I'm not that rash. You're putting all your residents in a lot of unnecessary danger, and I wouldn't want to give these governors or this President an excuse to send in the troops. Minnesota isn't eliminating the rule of law. The idea is that the emergency services supplied by the police can & will be replaced with more effective methods. You are right that community policing is a lot of work and a lot of effort, but as you also note, it is very overdue. 6 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: That's pretty much where I'm at, live and let live, smaller government and states rights. Based on those principles, you should be enthusiastically in favor of what Minnesota is doing. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Crayola64 said: im not conservative, and who knows what you are besides a troll. This is a very dumb idea that will never happen, and if Minneapolis attempts to do it, the process of implementing it will fail. You are now! 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, GregPersons said: Yep, that's the thing people have issue with! The name! You guys are smart! Well that went right over your head. You’re not very smart are you. 2 minutes ago, GregPersons said: Minnesota isn't eliminating the rule of law. The idea is that the emergency services supplied by the police can & will be replaced with more effective methods. What are these methods and what will make them more effective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Well that went right over your head. You’re not very smart are you. What are these methods and what will make them more effective? Stay tuned! History is being written as we speak. If you can't stand the uncertainty, take a nap and check back in after the grown-ups figure it all out for ya. Or if you're looking for some of the ideas already out there, I have a great resource for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, GregPersons said: Stay tuned! History is being written as we speak. If you can't stand the uncertainty, take a nap and check back in after the grown-ups figure it all out for ya. Or if you're looking for some of the ideas already out there, I have a great resource for you. Perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So then, you have no answers either huh? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: Well that went right over your head. You’re not very smart are you. What are these methods and what will make them more effective? We are dealing with a ticking time bomb here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregPersons Posted June 8, 2020 Author Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Cinga said: Perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So then, you have no answers either huh? Well, I'm not in charge of anything in Minnesota. I have ideas and speculation, but no, I can't give you "answers." This is what's funny about y'all, you were so sure that history was "over" and all of the great thinkers already came and went, you've spent so long jerking off to same couple of white guys and the only political theory you've ever read, you couldn't possibly conceive of a reality where there are no "answers." Only "problems" and "complications" and "ideas" and "solutions." Childish worldview. 4 minutes ago, fansince88 said: We are dealing with a ticking time bomb here. Tick, tick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, GregPersons said: Stay tuned! History is being written as we speak. If you can't stand the uncertainty, take a nap and check back in after the grown-ups figure it all out for ya. Or if you're looking for some of the ideas already out there, I have a great resource for you. So you have no ideas about how this is going to work. Just as long as we get rid of those Nazis, Racist Pigs right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Just now, GregPersons said: This is what's funny about y'all Your a fu**ing racist aren't you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark3 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: But one possessed of most of his faculties, it seems. I wouldn’t go that far lol ——— Replacing the police with a local organization from the community that is in charge of enforcing the law??? sounds like the police Edited June 8, 2020 by Crayola64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Let liberals run the country, They've done such a great job in the major cities. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinga Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Crayola64 said: I wouldn’t go that far lol ——— Replacing the police with a local organization from the community that is in charge of enforcing the law??? sounds like the police I guess it could depend on what law they are enforcing... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Do it Minneapolis and be the guinea pig for the rest of the country/world. We'll see that it still won't help improve the situation for black people, but at least it will be one fewer talking point. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Reality Check said: This is the goal. Not sure the 3rd wave feminists will be happy with this. I'm a middle aged guy with a beard and no strong religious convictions, I would be aok. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JESSEFEFFER Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, bilzfancy said: I am a conservative but no chicken little, after Nam I fear nothing anymore for me personally I rewatched Ken Burns' Vietnam documentary back in January but made the mistake of binge watching it. It was overwhelmingly, depressingly educational. Too much so to do without some recovery between. That was the depth of how screwed up things could get and how poor leadership can get us there. Thank goodness despite what some wish to say, we aren't near that level of fubar yet. Edited June 8, 2020 by JESSEFEFFER 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 minute ago, JESSEFEFFER said: I rewatched Ken Burns' Vietnam documentary back in January but made the mistake of binge watching it. It was overwhelmingly, depressingly educational. Too much so to do without some recovery between. That was the depth of how screwed up things could get and how poor leadership can lead us there. Thank goodness despite what some wish to say, we aren't near that level of fubar yet. Hopefully never again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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