2020 Election is officially Trump vs Biden

[3rdnlng]

Biden would have to be able to fight the virus better than Trump. After all, on Trump's watch "the U.S. has lost 120,000,000 people to the virus". Those are Biden's words.  

[Chef Jim]

53 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

You're just being silly.

The implications of the question were obvious.

What was the question in the poll? 

[Taraka]

If not for covid-19 Trump would have easily won reelection.  Biden is winning by keeping quiet so far. Less is definitely more from that guy. What a Joke.

[transplantbillsfan]

3 hours ago, Chef Jim said:

What was the question in the poll? 

 

Why are you being obstinate?

[Foxx]

7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

... What a moron

...

who's the moron? the guy who just reads a sound byte from an obviously biased media outlet and runs with it or the administration who has a better idea of what is happening on the ground?

 

from the article:

... Federal officials say the sites have been closing or transferring to state or local control because it's more efficient to run testing that way. In other instances they argue there are readily available testing sites nearby. ...

[Buffalo_Gal]

8 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Well for one he hasn't overlooked the deaths of 125,000+ Americans and counting or utterly screwed up his handling of this Pandemic from the beginning.

 

Every time you think he's gotta realize his ineptitude, he makes things worse.

 

What a moron

 

 

Stop acting dumb. You know that poll is a hypothetical "who do you trust more" question.

 

Unfortunately, Biden is going to have A LOT to clean up once he takes over next January.

Yeah, that Joe Biden, he's a great one.
 

 

[Chef Jim]

4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Why are you being obstinate?

You said the implications of the question were obvious when you don’t even know what the question was.  Isn’t that a fair question? 

[B-Man]

 

Biden Campaign Missing Only 2 Exciting Things: A Direction and a Candidate

by Stephen Green

 

Original Article

 

Is Hidin’ Joe Biden the 1994 Crime Bill guy, or the #BLM and antifa guy? The former veep and alleged Democratic presidential nominee might be up in the polls, but his campaign is being pulled in two impossible directions with a rudderless candidate stuck in the middle with little to do.

 

It isn’t easy to feel sympathy for someone like Biden, who has somehow grown rich without ever producing a good or service in the private sector. The man who used his public “service” to enrich his talentless and ethically challenged son. The man who can’t seem to keep his hands and nose off women who are not his wife,

 

 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

But, Trump is a dictator.  Never mind the research showing masks do not help, and may actually hurt... Biden is going to use an an EO to mandate what you wear in public. And no, that is not extrapolation.

 

Joe Biden says he would require Americans to wear masks in public
 

Joe Biden said on Thursday that if he were president, he would mandate that every American wear a mask in public to combat the spread of the coronavirus.
 

In an interview with KDKA, the CBS affiliate in Pittsburgh, the presumptive Democratic nominee said he would attempt to leverage federal power to mandate mask wearing.
 

“The one thing we do know is these masks make a gigantic difference,” he said. “I would insist that everybody out in public be wearing that mask. Anyone to reopen would have to make sure that they walked into a business that had masks.”
 

When asked whether that meant using executive actions to try to require such actions, Biden said he would use the power of the office.

“Yes, I would,” he said. “From an executive standpoint, yes, I would.”
 

Asked if that meant he would be effectively mandating that all Americans wear a mask, he responded by saying, “I would do everything possible to make it required that people had to wear masks in public.”
 

</snip>
 

[Koko78]

37 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

But, Trump is a dictator.  Never mind the research showing masks do not help, and may actually hurt... Biden is going to use an an EO to mandate what you wear in public. And no, that is not extrapolation.

 

Joe Biden says he would require Americans to wear masks in public
 

Joe Biden said on Thursday that if he were president, he would mandate that every American wear a mask in public to combat the spread of the coronavirus.
 

In an interview with KDKA, the CBS affiliate in Pittsburgh, the presumptive Democratic nominee said he would attempt to leverage federal power to mandate mask wearing.
 

“The one thing we do know is these masks make a gigantic difference,” he said. “I would insist that everybody out in public be wearing that mask. Anyone to reopen would have to make sure that they walked into a business that had masks.”
 

When asked whether that meant using executive actions to try to require such actions, Biden said he would use the power of the office.

“Yes, I would,” he said. “From an executive standpoint, yes, I would.”
 

Asked if that meant he would be effectively mandating that all Americans wear a mask, he responded by saying, “I would do everything possible to make it required that people had to wear masks in public.”
 

</snip>
 

 

Under what legal authority?

[Buffalo_Gal]

Just now, Koko78 said:

 

Under what legal authority?

He's got a pen and a phone? ?‍♀️

 

[transplantbillsfan]

4 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Yeah, that Joe Biden, he's a great one.
 

 

 

Yeah. Because Donald Trump never mixes up words 

 

Biden has foot-in-mouth disease. Everyone knows that.

 

Donald Trump is just sick in his brain.

[Buffalo_Gal]

18 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Yeah. Because Donald Trump never mixes up words 

 

Biden has foot-in-mouth disease. Everyone knows that.

 

Donald Trump is just sick in his brain.

Oh, Joe Biden's brain is quite sick. A qualified neurologist could determine how/with what, exactly. The rest of us simply see cognitive degeneration. You might want to check out some of his speeches from 10, 20 years ago. That was Biden's foot-in-mouth (well, and lying) disease. Today's disease is something entirely different. 

 

[LB3]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Oh, Joe Biden's brain is quite sick. A qualified neurologist could determine how/with what, exactly. The rest of us simply see cognitive degeneration. You might want to check out some of his speeches from 10, 20 years ago. That was Biden's foot-in-mouth (well, and lying) disease. Today's disease is something entirely different. 

 

YouTube is now showing an ad for Biden to get people to go to his go.biden campaign site. In the first sentence, before you can skip the ad, he fumbles his words. They actually published an ad where he speaks incoherently. Why wouldn't they edit or do a second take?

 

I genuinely believe that they want him to win, but also want people to see how much he's losing it. That their plan is to have the VP as sitting President before the end of his first year, if he's elected.

Edited June 26, 2020 by LB3

[Buffalo_Gal]

4 minutes ago, LB3 said:

YouTube is now showing an ad for Biden to get people to go to his go.biden campaign site. In the first sentence, before you can skip the ad, he fumbles his words. They actually published an ad where he speaks incoherently. Why wouldn't they edit or do a second take?

 

I genuinely believe that they want him to win, but also want people to see how much he's losing it. That their plan is to have the VP as sitting President before the end of his first year, if he's elected.

I think this is what the "25th amendment" screaming has been about since the VP has to be in on it. 

It does appear the "msm" and tech giants are all in on dragging Biden's corrupt ass across the finish line.  Suppression polls, article claiming republicans are turning against President Trump (to vote for Basement Biden? Uhh sure),  cancel culture if you even appear to make a positive statement about President Trump, etc. All set-up to demoralize the base.


 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

STEP ONE:  DEMOCRATS NOMINATE A GUY WHO CAN’T COMPLETE A SENTENCE.

 

Step Two:  WaPo: It’s Time to Rethink the Presidential Debates.

 

 

They’re so predictable.

 

 

 

 

[transplantbillsfan]

11 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Oh, Joe Biden's brain is quite sick. A qualified neurologist could determine how/with what, exactly. The rest of us simply see cognitive degeneration. You might want to check out some of his speeches from 10, 20 years ago. That was Biden's foot-in-mouth (well, and lying) disease. Today's disease is something entirely different. 

 

 

And yet he will be your next President.

 

And he will be a noticeable improvement over our current President.

[FireChans]

12 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

And yet he will be your next President.

 

And he will be a noticeable improvement over our current President.

Whatever the bad actors are who use Biden like a puppet are glad to hear you say so.

Edited June 27, 2020 by FireChans

[transplantbillsfan]

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

Whatever bad actors use Biden like a puppet are glad to hear you say so.

[FireChans]

11 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Don’t worry dude. It will be more bombing in the Middle East, more drone strikes, expansion of the surveillance state.

 

What a brave new world we will have. 

[transplantbillsfan]

12 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Don’t worry dude. It will be more bombing in the Middle East, more drone strikes, expansion of the surveillance state.

 

What a brave new world we will have. 

 

 

This is absolutely the most hilariously ironic statement I've ever read.

 

Have you even read that book?

 

Are you paying attention to this moment in history?

 

We're in that dystopian world RIGHT NOW. 

 

Keep taking your Soma, though. Clearly it's keeping you docile.

[BillStime]

37 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Whatever the bad actors are who use Biden like a puppet are glad to hear you say so.

oh - ok 

[Magox]

There are many reasons why Trump is losing right now.  It can be turned around, the question is does he have the discipline to do it?

 

Biden is nowhere near as unlikable as Hillary in the view of most people, so if he hopes to win he has to define him.  “Sleepy Joe” ain’t cutting it.

 

But here is a reason as to why he is losing:

 

Not sure if you guys watched the townhall with Hannity, Trump was asked why he should have a second term.  

 

 

Quote

"What's at stake in this election as you compare and contrast, and what are your top priority items for a second term?" Hannity asked.

 

 

 

And here is a Biden take on Trump, this was surprisingly coherent.

 

 

 

The main problem for Trump is his ego.  He seems to always bring it back to himself.

 

Trump has gone from + 10 to - 22 - a net change of 32 points in one month.   https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/betting_odds/2020_president/

 

 

I don't know what will happen over the course over the next few months, if he were to win the dynamics of the race will have to change.

 

 

Edited June 27, 2020 by Magox

[FireChans]

9 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

 

This is absolutely the most hilariously ironic statement I've ever read.

 

Have you even read that book?

 

Are you paying attention to this moment in history?

 

We're in that dystopian world RIGHT NOW. 

 

Keep taking your Soma, though. Clearly it's keeping you docile.

Incredible. Someone who argues Trump is completely incompetent is also arguing we are living in a dystopia after 3 years in office. If the news is capable of telling you our president is a fascist everyday, we really aren’t living in fascism.

 

Newsflash, the most dystopian thing the government has ever done was the initiation and expansion of the NSA. That was Bush, Obama and soon to be Biden. And the endless wars in the Middle East. Guess who perpetrated all of those as well?

 

You suck at noticing what actually matters. Trumps’ tweets don’t.

Edited June 27, 2020 by FireChans

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

5 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Incredible. Someone who argues Trump is completely incompetent is also arguing we are living in a dystopia after 3 years in office. If the news is capable of telling you our president is a fascist everyday, we really aren’t living in fascism.

 

Newsflash, the most dystopian thing the government has ever done was the initiation and expansion of the NSA. That was Bush, Obama and soon to be Biden. And the endless wars in the Middle East. Guess who perpetrated all of those as well?

 

You suck at noticing what actually matters. Trumps’ tweets don’t.

 

 

...his list of "legendary" posts is exponentially growing here and on the football side....he was "legendary" on BBB as well.....YAWN.........

[B-Man]

 

 

The Left Wants to Distract Us from a Choice in 2020

by Thaddeus G. McCotter

 

Original Article

 

In Washington, D.C.’s Lafayette Square during the Left’s latest attempt to create “Year Zero” by erasing American history, the less-than-peaceful protestors endeavored to create a “Black House Autonomous Zone” (BHAZ).

(Snip)

Should these lawless desecrators demur, the president later tweeted that he has authorized the Federal Government to arrest anyone who vandalizes or destroys any monument, statue or other such Federal property in the U.S. with up to 10 years in prison,(Snip) Clearly, the president’s message comes not only in response to the vandals, but also in response to the president’s populist critics who have chided him for appearing weak in the face of the lawlessness.

 

 

 

 

 

The article goes on to quote Kurt Schlichter tweet: "Stop panicking and fretting about how 'Trump's not doing anything' Not doing what the enemy wants is not 'not doing anything.’

 

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

 

ENTHUSIASM ? : 

 

Joe Biden loses 3 in 10 New York and Kentucky primary Democrats.

 

 

 

 

[Reality Check]

 

[transplantbillsfan]

3 hours ago, FireChans said:

Incredible. Someone who argues Trump is completely incompetent is also arguing we are living in a dystopia after 3 years in office. If the news is capable of telling you our president is a fascist everyday, we really aren’t living in fascism.

 

Newsflash, the most dystopian thing the government has ever done was the initiation and expansion of the NSA. That was Bush, Obama and soon to be Biden. And the endless wars in the Middle East. Guess who perpetrated all of those as well?

 

You suck at noticing what actually matters. Trumps’ tweets don’t.

 

Trump's tweets don't matter as much as the media makes it out, but no, that's not why your comments are so hilariously ironic.

 

Nearly 128,000 Americans have died in 4 1/2 months because of a Pandemic the President wasn't merely ill-prepared for, but was (and in many ways still is) in blatant denial of.

 

Our economy is deeper in the toilet than it needed to be and likely will be for a long time largely because of delayed action and constant mixed messaging by our idiot leader.

 

And in a time when the vast majority of Americans are out in the streets protesting racial injustice by the thousands in every single state in the Republic, he speaks like George Wallace, fights to keep statues of traitors of the Republic, and sends out military force to clear out peaceful protesters just so he can walk across the street to hold a Bible upside down for a 3 minute photo op.

 

There is nowhere to go but up from Donald Trump.

 

You're in that Brave New World right now, only our leader is an Idiot compared to Mustapha Mond, the ruler of the World State in Huxley's book.

[Buffalo_Gal]

6 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Our economy is deeper in the toilet than it needed to be and likely will be for a long time largely because of delayed action and constant mixed messaging by our idiot leader.

You do realize the economy in Hawaii is going to be in the toilet for a long time due to the Governor's COVID-19 tourist rules?  Mandated 14 day quarantines for anyone flying in, is quite the deterrent. But wait, there is hope ... you can skip the quarantine if you test negative for COVID-19 .... beginning August 1st!  Hawaiian tourism is ***** for 2020, and beyond. And when so much of your state economy is dependent on tourism, along with those tourist tax dollars... well, I hope you have tenure.  The state of  Hawaii's economy is certainly not going to be a V ... but that is Trump's fault, amirite?

 

[transplantbillsfan]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

You do realize the economy in Hawaii is going to be in the toilet for a long time due to the Governor's COVID-19 tourist rules?  Mandated 14 day quarantines for anyone flying in, is quite the deterrent. But wait, there is hope ... you can skip the quarantine if you test negative for COVID-19 .... beginning August 1st!  Hawaiian tourism is ***** for 2020, and beyond. And when so much of your state economy is dependent on tourism, along with those tourist tax dollars... well, I hope you have tenure.  The state of  Hawaii's economy is certainly not going to be a V ... but that is Trump's fault, amirite?

 

 

Holy crap what a great example of Confirmation bias!

 

Thanks for your incredibly fallacious argument.

 

And yes, I have tenure. My job is secure (though still awaiting news on a potential paycut), thank you. I'm very fortunate.

[FireChans]

15 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

Trump's tweets don't matter as much as the media makes it out, but no, that's not why your comments are so hilariously ironic.

 

Nearly 128,000 Americans have died in 4 1/2 months because of a Pandemic the President wasn't merely ill-prepared for, but was (and in many ways still is) in blatant denial of.

 

Our economy is deeper in the toilet than it needed to be and likely will be for a long time largely because of delayed action and constant mixed messaging by our idiot leader.

 

And in a time when the vast majority of Americans are out in the streets protesting racial injustice by the thousands in every single state in the Republic, he speaks like George Wallace, fights to keep statues of traitors of the Republic, and sends out military force to clear out peaceful protesters just so he can walk across the street to hold a Bible upside down for a 3 minute photo op.

 

There is nowhere to go but up from Donald Trump.

 

You're in that Brave New World right now, only our leader is an Idiot compared to Mustapha Mond, the ruler of the World State in Huxley's book.

You’re pivoting. Please explain how an incompetent President incompetently responding to a pandemic and it’s fallout is MORE dystopian than a competent President enacting surveillance policies on its own citizens in the name of “protection.” Or enacting decades long shadow wars and regime changes for ulterior motives, with drone strikes and countless civilian casualties.

 

The vast majority isn’t protesting, because this country is >300M, so that’s wrong. Regardless, those protests have MOSTLY gone on without being shut down. Aren’t they on like day 25 straight of protests in Portland? Does that sound like martial law to you?

 

A bad economy or a bad pandemic isn’t dystopian. You want to argue incompetence, go ahead. When we are invading the next country du jour like Syria again, and the FBI and NSA have carte blanche to do whatever they want to our citizens, you will be thankful that at least it’s not Trump. I think that’s missing the forest for the trees.

 

Again, your argument is that we are such a TERRIBLE dystopia by our evil leader, and then ALSO that all these things are happening because he’s so dumb. Which is it? Is he a moron who can’t stop people from going outside and can’t enact good policies, or an evil dictator who the general American population is living under the boot of? You have multiple massive media companies who have the freedom to report on every single negative thing. Sure he says he doesn’t like it, but they still have the freedom to do so. 

 

In reality the rest of the country lives in, not much has changed under Trump in regards to the police state. You act like we are living in NK or China. You know, the places that are ACTUALLY dystopian? The places where people disappear for speaking out against their head of state, not get 2 hours a night on cable TV.

 

But I get it. The internet has corrupted the brains of lots of people. People call it TDS, but that’s really a symptom. You scroll Twitter and you’d think the entire country is burning down, that the military are patrolling the streets, that people are getting shot by cops around the corner every night. It’s just not the case. But that angle doesn’t get clicks.

 

 

[B-Man]

 

 

What's the problem ?.......................sounds perfect.

 

 

 

[Foxx]

24 minutes ago, B-Man said:

 

 

What's the problem ?.......................sounds perfect.

 

 

 

i'll be very surprised if Biden's VP choice doesn't come from a swing state, with carrying that state in mind.

[RiotAct]

21 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

And yet he will be your next President.

 

And he will be a noticeable improvement over our current President.

he’ll get us back on track!!!

 

And if he doesn’t, hey, just blame Trump or the Republicans in Congress, amirite?

[transplantbillsfan]

8 minutes ago, RiotAct said:

he’ll get us back on track!!!

 

And if he doesn’t, hey, just blame Trump or the Republicans in Congress, amirite?

 

At least you understand that Biden is your next President.

 

That's half the battle.

[RiotAct]

1 minute ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

At least you understand that Biden is your next President.

 

That's half the battle.

oh, I have little doubt he will be.  Or whoever ends up at the top of the Democratic ticket come early November.  Will it be a good thing for the country overall (not just the part of the country that gets their news from CNN/Vox), that remains to be seen.

[KD in CA]

On 6/26/2020 at 10:32 AM, B-Man said:

 

 

 

STEP ONE:  DEMOCRATS NOMINATE A GUY WHO CAN’T COMPLETE A SENTENCE.

 

Step Two:  WaPo: It’s Time to Rethink the Presidential Debates.

 

 

They’re so predictable.

 

 

 

 

 

Of course the Dems aren't going to have a convention that culminates with a big speech by a guy suffering from dementia.

 

Assume they'll try everything to get out of the debates too.  But I love how the author can't come up with anything better than debates are too hard to schedule in a 'busy fall schedule' full of sports and TV shows 'n stuff.   

 

[Doc Brown]

10 hours ago, B-Man said:

 

 

 

ENTHUSIASM ? : 

 

Joe Biden loses 3 in 10 New York and Kentucky primary Democrats.

 

 

 

 

Yeah. Enthusiasm is definitely a problem for Biden as he's trying to make this election a referendum on Trump.  Staying out of the spotlight and not caving to the radical left is smart on his team's part.   

 

[KD in CA]

19 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Yeah. Enthusiasm is definitely a problem for Biden as he's trying to make this election a referendum on Trump.  Staying out of the spotlight and not caving to the radical left is smart on his team's part.   

 

When people are excited about a Dem, they win (Kennedy, Clinton, Obama).  Lost in all the excuse making they made last time, the Dems just couldn’t admit that no one was excited about Hitlery and that cost them.  Same problem this time.

 

Now, four years of relentless campaigning and scare tactics by the media (in addition to Trump’s own stupidity) on behalf on the Dems may be just enough to push a near-invalid into office, but generally it is very difficult to elect someone who excites and inspires no one.