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22 hours ago, BillStime said:

Pennsylvania Republicans are literally considering giving their state's electoral votes to Donald Trump no matter who wins the state's popular vote.  Joe Biden needs to demolish Trump in Pennsylvania!

 

Pennsylvania Republicans Put Election Nightmare Scenario In Motion

 

QOP: most corrupt party in our lifetime

 

Why is this ok?

 

 

Fascism in action 

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New high-quality polls out this morning show excellent post-debate news for Biden. He is enjoying a bump in PA, FL, and nationally, resulting in his best odds of the cycle. The Ipsos poll is post-Trump COVID as well and shows a 10-point national lead for Biden.

 

Per 538, Trump's chance of winning is at 19%, and his chance in all-important Pennsylvania is 18%.

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Your Sunday Clarice.........

 

The Democrats' Long Temper Tantrum Will Re-elect Trump

by Clarice Feldman

 

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It’s quite obvious to me that the Deep State and the Democratic Party that staffs it never got over the fact that their nefarious misuse of our intelligence agencies and hoodwinking the media didn’t work any better than their constant efforts after his election to remove Donald Trump from office and continue their autocratic grifting. This week was no exception. Indeed, I have to agree with Roger L. Simon that “In the aftermath of Trump’s contracting Covid-19, they are reelecting him.” The Debate Any sentient viewer of this week’s debate had to be disgusted. The moderator, the questions, the format all combined to make this an upscale version of an old-timeMore at the link:

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:


 

 

But you don't understand, Robert Byrd totally disavowed all of his KKK associations. Therefore this is a nothing burger. End of story.

 

 In 2020 while we're pulling down statues of Frederick Douglass and canceling anyone and everyone because "racist", you'll have those on the left tell you with a straight face that the Biden - Byrd association is not problematic at all.

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"I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life."

 I feel better than I did 20 years ago!"

Tweeted Trump a few minutes ago.

 

 

AND: Look what that means. Apart from the news item — he feels good and is about to leave the hospital — we can see the beginning of his new framing of the covid issue:

 

Fear not! Don't let it run your life! We have great treatments, great medical personnel! It's the new-old Trump optimism. He's still advocating getting out and living your life. He's been through the illness and what he's learned is, it's not so bad.

 

I'm sure his opponents will pounce with recitations of the number who have died — 215,000!! They'll take the side of closing up, locking down, hiding your face, waiting and waiting to get back to life.

 

They may be right, but maybe people will vote for what they want: Freedom! Back to normal! Don't be afraid!

 
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Biden Threatens Religious Freedom, Suggests Christians With Certain Traditional Views Are 'Dregs of Society'

by Tyler O´Neil

 

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Liberals often mock conservative Christians for supporting a notorious sinner and philanderer in Donald Trump, but the left has grown increasingly hostile to biblical (small-o) orthodox Christianity. Even the ostensibly moderate Democratic nominee Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. represents an insidious threat to the religious freedom of conservative Christians. He also represents a threat to Roman Catholics, even though he is himself a practicing Catholic. How could this be? Biden’s rhetoric and policies single out those who adhere to traditional religious beliefs and moral convictions, aiming to limit their ability to live by their consciences and ostracizing them from polite society.

 

 

 

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32 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

anyone else think and is worried dead end Biden is going to win? Idk how anyone can vote for that socialist ticket :( but it looks like most are for it 

The press has shown itself to be lying, partisan, and delusional. I don't trust the polls. Maybe they are correct, but I think it is all on the level of Pravda at this point. Just vote your conscience and pray for your country.

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On 10/5/2020 at 4:07 PM, BillsFanNC said:

 

But you don't understand, Robert Byrd totally disavowed all of his KKK associations. Therefore this is a nothing burger. End of story.

 

 In 2020 while we're pulling down statues of Frederick Douglass and canceling anyone and everyone because "racist", you'll have those on the left tell you with a straight face that the Biden - Byrd association is not problematic at all.

It's really a moot point b.c both presidents are racist... most old people are racist.

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15 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

The press has shown itself to be lying, partisan, and delusional. I don't trust the polls. Maybe they are correct, but I think it is all on the level of Pravda at this point. Just vote your conscience and pray for your country.

 
Nawwwww I always trust D+12 national polls. Who wouldn’t!? / heavy sarcasm tag

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5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 
Nawwwww I always trust D+12 national polls. Who wouldn’t!? / heavy sarcasm tag


I’m not worried about the polls, but I do feel like this full court press that has been going on will succeed. The constant negative press, coupled with these joe Biden ads all over the place and the get out and vote campaigns going on (which I’m sick of the nfl commercials btw) seems to be hard to overcome 

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1 hour ago, Dr. Who said:

The press has shown itself to be lying, partisan, and delusional. I don't trust the polls. Maybe they are correct, but I think it is all on the level of Pravda at this point. Just vote your conscience and pray for your country.


I read one poll (I think Rasmussen?) and it polled Dems, repubs, n non partisans equally. Biden was still the favorite by a good margin.  I hope you’re right though. The polls were dead wrong last time so let’s pray that’s the case again. 
 

***** Biden. ***** the Dems forever n ever 

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On 10/6/2020 at 11:46 PM, GETTOTHE50 said:


I read one poll (I think Rasmussen?) and it polled Dems, repubs, n non partisans equally. Biden was still the favorite by a good margin.  I hope you’re right though. The polls were dead wrong last time so let’s pray that’s the case again. 
 

***** Biden. ***** the Dems forever n ever 

 

Polls were not dead wrong last time. At times Hilary had large leads because polls covered different dates. When you get to the polls around the election, they were not far off.

 

"Polling of the 2016 presidential general election is the trickiest case to evaluate. The average error was 4.8 percentage points — slightly higher than in 2000 (4.4 points) and considerably higher than in 2004 (3.2 points), 2008 (3.6 points) or 2012 (3.6 points)."

 

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-polls-are-all-right/

 

 

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14 hours ago, BillsFanNC said:

Yes indeed.

 

 

 

Yes double indeed:

 

"In two dozen interviews with voters in three traditional swing states and Texas, people discussed why they aren’t voting for him again and what it feels like to leave behind a political allegiance that was part of their personal identity"

 

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-religion-virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-4b9c9d7a7aa46c523047a3a0e932e2a8

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18 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:

 

Yes double indeed:

 

"In two dozen interviews with voters in three traditional swing states and Texas, people discussed why they aren’t voting for him again and what it feels like to leave behind a political allegiance that was part of their personal identity"

 

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-religion-virus-outbreak-race-and-ethnicity-4b9c9d7a7aa46c523047a3a0e932e2a8

 

My "yes indeed" applied to me alone. Good for the AP for scouring the country high and low to find two dozen voters who may not vote for Trump again, but are certainly giving no indication that they will crawl across broken glass to vote for Biden.

 

I'm a single issue voter this time, and from the article I linked it's this.

 

Then as details about SpyGate were revealed in early 2018, I became a full-throated proponent of Trump, incensed that the Obama administration colluded with Clinton, the Democratic National Committee, and legacy media to weaponize the federal government intelligence and law enforcement agencies against an opposition party candidate and then a sitting president. When the Russian collusion hoax didn’t work, Trump’s enemies tried to take him down with fake impeachment charges over a legitimate phone call with a new Ukrainian administration.

 

That's it. There are now mountains upon mountains of real actual evidence pointing to the above being true. Trump is still the same egotistical blowhard ahole everyone always knew he was. But you know what? The country is absolutely allowed to elect an egotistal, bowhard ahole without unelected bureaucrats attempting to overturn the election.  If these people aren't ultimately held to account we all are living in an illusion of a constitutional republic.

 

Also, we had a poll down here on PPP a few months ago asking who everyone voted for in 2016 and how they plan to vote this time. I can't find it now but I'd say we had close to a dozen voters just in this little sub-forum who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 that plan to vote for him this time.

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18 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

My "yes indeed" applied to me alone. Good for the AP for scouring the country high and low to find two dozen voters who may not vote for Trump again, but are certainly giving no indication that they will crawl across broken glass to vote for Biden.

 

I'm a single issue voter this time, and from the article I linked it's this.

 

Then as details about SpyGate were revealed in early 2018, I became a full-throated proponent of Trump, incensed that the Obama administration colluded with Clinton, the Democratic National Committee, and legacy media to weaponize the federal government intelligence and law enforcement agencies against an opposition party candidate and then a sitting president. When the Russian collusion hoax didn’t work, Trump’s enemies tried to take him down with fake impeachment charges over a legitimate phone call with a new Ukrainian administration.

 

That's it. There are now mountains upon mountains of real actual evidence pointing to the above being true. Trump is still the same egotistical blowhard ahole everyone always knew he was. But you know what? The country is absolutely allowed to elect an egotistal, bowhard ahole without unelected bureaucrats attempting to overturn the election.  If these people aren't ultimately held to account we all are living in an illusion of a constitutional republic.

 

Also, we had a poll down here on PPP a few months ago asking who everyone voted for in 2016 and how they plan to vote this time. I can't find it now but I'd say we had close to a dozen voters just in this little sub-forum who didn't vote for Trump in 2016 that plan to vote for him this time.

 

A lot of polls ask the question. Here is one from Pew yesterday:

 

PP_2020.10.09_election-and-voter-attitud

 

People who didn't vote in 2916, support Biden more. 

 

6 percent of people who voted Trump are voting Biden.

 

4 percent of people who voted Clinton are voting Trump.

 

I think the biggest take away is the 3rd party support from 2016 isn't there in 2020 (even with Republican lawyers trying to get possibly popular third parties on swing state ballots) and those 3rd party votes are going heavily towards Biden.

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