NoSaint Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Here is a good quote from Brees for all you who think he doesn't have a right to express his opinion. He does and he did. I think people dont understand what a right means. People do not have the right to force me to agree with everything they think. Enjoy this quote.... "I will never know what it's like to be a black man or raise black children in America but I will work every day to put myself in those shoes and fight for what is right." Well said Mr. Brees he unfortunately follows it with “I recognize that I am part of the solution and can be a leader for the black community in this movement. ” he needs to understand he is not the qb of the black rights movement, he is the support staff. I do imagine that’s difficult for a man wired like him - but when he gets it, it’ll get him out of hot water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: He is not protesting during a 3rd down play. I like that he makes you uncomfortable. That is the point. You don't get to decide when he is actually "on the job". It also does not really matter, the "on the job stuff" if it were a real sentiment would be directed more towards the league itself (and the owners) and not the players. Players aren't getting suspended for kneeling during the anthem. The league didn't think enough of it, or could not collectively bargain a resolution. So as of right now, players are allowed kneel on the job with minimal to no employer repercussions. It is just noise and a distraction to their real complaints. That they either don't understand, don't want to understand, or they think the cause is not important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, FireChans said: Oh, I did. And I’m white. I think you’re right. There are some folks who didn’t realize cops could kill you until extremely recently. But it’s not just cops. You can get shot while jogging. You can get framed while bird watching. There is racism everywhere, even if it wasn’t your reality it’s the reality for many. Again, now is the time to LISTEN, something folks hate doing these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Does Conehead stop selling beer in the concourse when the anthem is playing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: But it’s not just cops. You can get shot while jogging. You can get framed while bird watching. There is racism everywhere, even if it wasn’t your reality it’s the reality for many. Again, now is the time to LISTEN, something folks hate doing these days. Yeah I mean sure. Racially charged crimes are a problem. Is there really any way to fix the people who commit them? Or just punish them when they inevitably happen? Edited June 4, 2020 by FireChans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Warren Zevon said: Does Conehead stop selling beer in the concourse when the anthem is playing? No he actually keeps going, his passion for selling beer is something to behold. His cardio is also truly amazing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, FireChans said: Yeah I mean sure. Racially charged crimes are a problem. Is there really any way to fix the people who commit them? To Perfection? No. To make great progress? Of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: He is not protesting during a 3rd down play. I like that he makes you uncomfortable. That is the point. You don't get to decide when he is actually "on the job". He doesn’t make me uncomfortable at all. Who said that? If you want to be political at work, you will probably be gone. Pretty simple, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, NoSaint said: To Perfection? No. To make great progress? Of course What strategies do you suggest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 12 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: I did not. I grew up in a white suburb with peaceful cul-de-sacs and no fear of interacting with the police. I’m fortunate and I realize it, but it’s time for me and others like to me quietly listen to what it was like for people who grew up in a very different America. I love how white folks who grew up in sleepy little communities around WNY want to declare what it's like for blacks in big cities and other portions of America, as if they have any clue as to what the F they are talking about. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Augie said: He doesn’t make me uncomfortable at all. Who said that? If you want to be political at work, you will probably be gone. Pretty simple, really. But players are political at work (the NFL), and the NFL is not banishing or forbidding them (other than Kaep possibly). So I guess you don't have a problem with it, since their employer is allowing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, FireChans said: What strategies do you suggest? not going to deep dive race relation strategies right now, but am 100% comfortable saying there are a variety of ways to make progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: But it’s not just cops. You can get shot while jogging. You can get framed while bird watching. There is racism everywhere, even if it wasn’t your reality it’s the reality for many. Again, now is the time to LISTEN, something folks hate doing these days. You realize blacks kill twice the amount of whites every year then vice versa right? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 28 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Here is a good quote from Brees for all you who think he doesn't have a right to express his opinion. He does and he did. I think people dont understand what a right means. People do not have the right to force me to agree with everything they think. Enjoy this quote.... "I will never know what it's like to be a black man or raise black children in America but I will work every day to put myself in those shoes and fight for what is right." Well said Mr. Brees Too bad he never said anything like that BEFORE his tone deaf statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Drew can say whatever he wants. But he has to live with the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: What an idiotic example of our society silencing someone who doesn't buy the party line. As far as his comments go.. how exactly is kneeling during the anthem not a sign of disrespect for the flag? We stand in reverence (see, respect) and honor, so kneeling would be the opposite. What am I missing here? No one is silencing Brees. How exactly is kneeling disrespecting a flag? We don't stand for the flag, we stand for the national anthem. People sit, stand, do cartwheels, and lay down near flags all the time. Edited June 4, 2020 by Jauronimo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: No one is silencing Brees. How exactly is kneeling disrespecting a flag? We don't stand for the flag, we stand for the national anthem. People sit, stand, do cartwheels, and lay down near flags all the time. I have US flag swim trunks. Can't remember a specific time but I bet I've farted in them. Edited June 4, 2020 by Warren Zevon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: No one is silencing Brees. How exactly is kneeling disrespecting a flag? We don't stand for the flag, we stand for the national anthem. People sit, stand, do cartwheels, and lay down near flags all the time. Oh wow, well if PEOPLE do that, then everyone must agree with it! I am very smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Just now, Warren Zevon said: I have flag swim trunks. I'm pretty sure a shocking number of people who think Kaep should be tried for sedition have flag mankinis, shirts, and flag mud flaps. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 Wait a minute - I thought this was supposed to be a "conversation." If this is the case, it has to be two way with everyone being heard and not being bullied into certain opinions. This will never work and IMO is a big part of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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