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24 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

I'm thrilled his market is soft. We still probably won't even wade into those shallower waters though I'd expect

I think it’s because teams want their own medical info on him. They can do deals pending physicals but since no one knows when that would be lifted it would be a lot of pending $ tied up while you wait 

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9 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

  T Brian Bulaga signed for just 10 per and G Graham Glasgow for 11 per, They were top 3 free agents at their positions and I really wish the Bills were in on that. A lot of people seem okay with putting the same line out there as last year. I thought the unit was below average and was hoping a stud guard and/or rt were going to be Bills targets.

  Counting on Ford to make a big leap and the unit to improve significantly based on continuity is a risk. The money they gave to underforming Butler would have gotten one of these guys. Who knows, maybe they tried. It just seems that their focus has been on the d line more than the o line.

 Don't get me wrong, I think these guys are doing a good job. I'm just concerned the line won't be good enough.

 

We need more defensive tackles.😂


Not much out there if you really want a true starter, maybe a Cordy Glenn reunion or Darryl Williams. Those guys are going to want to go where they can start. But there are some depth swing guys like Joe Haeg, LaRaven Clark, Germaine Ifedi, James Hurst...those guys are pretty versatile and give you some functional depth. Haeg and Clark are former Colts as well. Plus Waddle is available as well. 
 

I think they let Ford develop and give him another year. He had ups and downs, a lot of downs, but he flashed. You don’t move him inside until he proves he can’t play tackle, and he is not there yet. Plus Nsehke is the ultimate insurance policy.

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16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think it’s because teams want their own medical info on him. They can do deals pending physicals but since no one knows when that would be lifted it would be a lot of pending $ tied up while you wait 

 

True, considering he was dealing with a core muscle issue last year, but I don't know that we'd be offering him the kind of money he's expecting even if everything checked out. 

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21 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think it’s because teams want their own medical info on him. They can do deals pending physicals but since no one knows when that would be lifted it would be a lot of pending $ tied up while you wait 


Are teams allowed to fly to players and give them a physical? Or is that prohibited as well?

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4 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:


Are teams allowed to fly to players and give them a physical? Or is that prohibited as well?

Seems to be prohibited at this time

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16 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:


Not much out there if you really want a true starter, maybe a Cordy Glenn reunion or Darryl Williams. Those guys are going to want to go where they can start. But there are some depth swing guys like Joe Haeg, LaRaven Clark, Germaine Ifedi, James Hurst...those guys are pretty versatile and give you some functional depth. Haeg and Clark are former Colts as well. Plus Waddle is available as well. 
 

I think they let Ford develop and give him another year. He had ups and downs, a lot of downs, but he flashed. You don’t move him inside until he proves he can’t play tackle, and he is not there yet. Plus Nsehke is the ultimate insurance policy.

I agree.

  Bulaga and Glasgow were the guys I was interested in and was just surprised at the reasonable deals they signed.

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30 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

  T Brian Bulaga signed for just 10 per and G Graham Glasgow for 11 per, They were top 3 free agents at their positions and I really wish the Bills were in on that. A lot of people seem okay with putting the same line out there as last year. I thought the unit was below average and was hoping a stud guard and/or rt were going to be Bills targets.

  Counting on Ford to make a big leap and the unit to improve significantly based on continuity is a risk. The money they gave to underforming Butler would have gotten one of these guys. Who knows, maybe they tried. It just seems that their focus has been on the d line more than the o line.

 Don't get me wrong, I think these guys are doing a good job. I'm just concerned the line won't be good enough.

 

We need more defensive tackles.😂

Well, if a quality RT falls to us at 54, say Prince Tega Wanogho I could see us drafting him and sliding Ford inside. I want Taylor or Dobbins but they’ll likely be gone. Probably be DE or RT there.

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5 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:


Are teams allowed to fly to players and give them a physical? Or is that prohibited as well?

No medicals.

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10 minutes ago, TOboy said:

Seems to be prohibited at this time

Tom Pelliseiro reported this yesterday.  There's a hold on players traveling to team facilities as well as team officials traveling to players.  No physicals being conducted.

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17 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

True, considering he was dealing with a core muscle issue last year, but I don't know that we'd be offering him the kind of money he's expecting even if everything checked out. 

Not us. Just in general 

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1 minute ago, Reed83HOF said:

 

Probably shouldnt have signed the 5 year contract he did prior to the start of the 2017 season then.  

 

Also if everyone could use his real name and stop using his nickname like they are best friends with the guy that'd be great. 

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1 hour ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

I'm thrilled his market is soft. We still probably won't even wade into those shallower waters though I'd expect

I think Gordon is going to find out the same thing.  He is going to end up with a lot less money than what he expected.

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Just now, Reed83HOF said:

 

Ahhhh. Not surprising, though I still doubt DH was available within the AFC. He’s going to get a huge payday for sure. 

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12 minutes ago, Victory Formation said:

Well, if a quality RT falls to us at 54, say Prince Tega Wanogho I could see us drafting him and sliding Ford inside. I want Taylor or Dobbins but they’ll likely be gone. Probably be DE or RT there.

Where would Ford slide inside to? Is he a better guard than Spain or Feliciano? Ford was a 2nd round OT last year. I think if you draft another OT in the 2nd round you may get someone exactly like Ford. 

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The Titans trade Jurrell Casey??? WTF!!! He is the best player on their defense year in and year out. Man I hate that team and their personnel decisions. 

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5 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said:

Where would Ford slide inside to? Is he a better guard than Spain or Feliciano? Ford was a 2nd round OT last year. I think if you draft another OT in the 2nd round you may get someone exactly like Ford. 

Agree 100%, although I'd say "theoretically" Ford has more upside than both Spain and JF at guard. We must also remember: OL typically make a big jump from year 1 to 2, and this is more true than ever today esp with the style of the current college game.

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4 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said:

Where would Ford slide inside to? Is he a better guard than Spain or Feliciano? Ford was a 2nd round OT last year. I think if you draft another OT in the 2nd round you may get someone exactly like Ford. 

I don’t think so. There was a run on tackles last year and Ford was one of the last ones off the board. Prince Tega Wanogho would be incredible if available. Ford goes to RG, JF backs up all three interior positions.

 

I’m not against starting Ford at RT neither, so long as he earns it in camp. He’s a mauler and has value as a road grader.

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1 hour ago, Turk71 said:

  T Brian Bulaga signed for just 10 per and G Graham Glasgow for 11 per, They were top 3 free agents at their positions and I really wish the Bills were in on that. A lot of people seem okay with putting the same line out there as last year. I thought the unit was below average and was hoping a stud guard and/or rt were going to be Bills targets.

  Counting on Ford to make a big leap and the unit to improve significantly based on continuity is a risk. The money they gave to underforming Butler would have gotten one of these guys. Who knows, maybe they tried. It just seems that their focus has been on the d line more than the o line.

 Don't get me wrong, I think these guys are doing a good job. I'm just concerned the line won't be good enough.

 

I hear you.  It is definitely a risk going into the season with Cody Ford at Right Tackle.

But at some point, you need to let your high draft picks play, work out the kinks and hopefully step forward.

 

Going into last season, there were lots of Bills fans concerned about Middle Linebacker.  But Tremaine Edmunds took a significant step in his development, and the position is now considered one of our strengths.

 

It's one thing to have a fallback option (which I believe Ty Nsekhe and possibly another veteran free agent will end up being).  But once we re-signed Quinton Spain, it was highly unlikely we were going to throw big bucks at one of the RTs on the market.

 

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27 minutes ago, BillsfanAZ said:

Where would Ford slide inside to? Is he a better guard than Spain or Feliciano? Ford was a 2nd round OT last year. I think if you draft another OT in the 2nd round you may get someone exactly like Ford. 

Or you may get someone like Dawkins. Not too bad ay?

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