IDBillzFan Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Regular posters here know I'm not one to start new threads, but the California (again) thread has proven to be a great spot for that state's oddities, and I think we can all agree The State of NY can use a similar thread at this point. Case in point: the state's new bail reform law, which is already making news for who is being released without bail. Just recently: Six Suspects in $7M Fentanyl Ring Free Without Bail It seems every time we turn around the state (and of course, NYC) is doing something that is ridiculous. When you stop to consider how the left wants to remove the electoral college and turn over electing presidents, essentially, to NY and CA, it's probably worth it to highlight the fun happening on the coast without a consistently beautiful view. So join me in keeping all batschittcrazy NY things to this thread. 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, IDBillzFan said: Regular posters here know I'm not one to start new threads, but the California (again) thread has proven to be a great spot for that state's oddities, and I think we can all agree The State of NY can use a similar thread at this point. Case in point: the state's new bail reform law, which is already making news for who is being released without bail. Just recently: Six Suspects in $7M Fentanyl Ring Free Without Bail It seems every time we turn around the state (and of course, NYC) is doing something that is ridiculous. When you stop to consider how the left wants to remove the electoral college and turn over electing presidents, essentially, to NY and CA, it's probably worth it to highlight the fun happening on the coast without a consistently beautiful view. So join me in keeping all batschittcrazy NY things to this thread. Ah, bail reform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Let's see how tomorrow's event turns out too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Thanks IDZbillzFan......... I will probably be posting daily in this thread. DISPATCHES FROM THE EDUCATION APOCALYPSE: Flipping off rightly-angry parents should be the last straw for New York City Schools Chancellor Richard Carranza. A shocking video taken at a once-highly regarded middle school in Bayside, Queens, MS 158, showed a 14-year-old girl beating on a younger girl while teachers made limited attempts to stop the brutality. As The Post has reported, this wasn’t the first major incident at the middle school in the last year; it came in addition to two instances of alleged sexual assault. During the town-hall meeting with upset parents, Carranza refused to answer their questions, instead taking prescreened ones, until the anger in the room reached a boiling point, and the parents began to openly jeer. Then the chancellor walked out of the room and turned his back on their concerns. He later blasted the mother of the assaulted child for “grandstanding.” I’m not the first to call for his firing, but I hope I’m the last. In June, nine City Council members wrote a letter to de Blasio calling for his ouster. The tone-deaf mayor’s office shot back, insinuating that the signatories were — what else? — racist for calling for Carranza’s removal. Read the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 This thread has been needed for a year now. ? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) HE’LL WIN AGAIN IN 2020 AT THIS RATE: NY Governor Andrew Cuomo Named 2019 U-Haul Salesman Of The Year As People Flee New York State. I mean, unless he loses to Gavin Newsom, which is entirely possible. BOB MCMANUS: It looks like New York’s getting the crime uptick politicians have been asking for. Question for New York Voters: Why are you electing politicians who want more crime against you? . Edited January 30, 2020 by B-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: Regular posters here know I'm not one to start new threads, but the California (again) thread has proven to be a great spot for that state's oddities, and I think we can all agree The State of NY can use a similar thread at this point. Case in point: the state's new bail reform law, which is already making news for who is being released without bail. Just recently: Six Suspects in $7M Fentanyl Ring Free Without Bail It seems every time we turn around the state (and of course, NYC) is doing something that is ridiculous. When you stop to consider how the left wants to remove the electoral college and turn over electing presidents, essentially, to NY and CA, it's probably worth it to highlight the fun happening on the coast without a consistently beautiful view. So join me in keeping all batschittcrazy NY things to this thread. ...gonna have to give me some time to post comments about the "Land of Big Fredo" and I may sue you for carpal tunnel........for starters, did you know that Big Fredo does NOT have an email address (got this from my NYSDOT buddies)?......he wants NOTHING in writing and I believe phone wiretaps are illegal...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 22 minutes ago, B-Man said: HE’LL WIN AGAIN IN 2020 AT THIS RATE: NY Governor Andrew Cuomo Named 2019 U-Haul Salesman Of The Year As People Flee New York State. I mean, unless he loses to Gavin Newsom, which is entirely possible. BOB MCMANUS: It looks like New York’s getting the crime uptick politicians have been asking for. Question for New York Voters: Why are you electing politicians who want more crime against you? . We are attached to a City called NY. The tri county I live in, Lewis, St Lawrence, Jefferson, does not vote for him nor did we put the Legislators or Senators in the state that voted for this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 One of my best friends is an officer in the Rochester PD and he stated that the good intentions of the new bail bill are far outweighed by the negatives. Basically it is a decision based on good intentions without any consideration for the fallout 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, IDBillzFan said: Regular posters here know I'm not one to start new threads, but the California (again) thread has proven to be a great spot for that state's oddities, and I think we can all agree The State of NY can use a similar thread at this point. Case in point: the state's new bail reform law, which is already making news for who is being released without bail. Just recently: Six Suspects in $7M Fentanyl Ring Free Without Bail It seems every time we turn around the state (and of course, NYC) is doing something that is ridiculous. When you stop to consider how the left wants to remove the electoral college and turn over electing presidents, essentially, to NY and CA, it's probably worth it to highlight the fun happening on the coast without a consistently beautiful view. So join me in keeping all batschittcrazy NY things to this thread. Oh God. Please keep me out of this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said: One of my best friends is an officer in the Rochester PD and he stated that the good intentions of the new bail bill are far outweighed by the negatives. Basically it is a decision based on good intentions without any consideration for the fallout That is the definition of virtue signaling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: This thread has been needed for a year now. ? agreed. i didn't mean to hi jack the Judicial changed thread but that is where the madness had begun being posted. huge ty to @IDBillzFan for the new thread. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, ScotSHO said: That is the definition of virtue signaling. I refer to it as the " do something" crowd but you are not wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: One of my best friends is an officer in the Rochester PD and he stated that the good intentions of the new bail bill are far outweighed by the negatives. Basically it is a decision based on good intentions without any consideration for the fallout Hahaah. Government action 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: This thread has been needed for a year now. ? No kidding. We’re tired of getting picked on. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 13 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: One of my best friends is an officer in the Rochester PD and he stated that the good intentions of the new bail bill are far outweighed by the negatives. Basically it is a decision based on good intentions without any consideration for the fallout I was talking to a public defender here (play hockey with him) and he says its a good idea. The bail situation was leaving nonviolent offenders in jail costing over $150 a night to stay in jail. Taxpayers could be on the hook for thousands for each lock up for a person that really isn't a threat to society. Judges just putting $300 on a poor defendant--not convicted!--might as well have been $3 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 17 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I was talking to a public defender here (play hockey with him) and he says its a good idea. The bail situation was leaving nonviolent offenders in jail costing over $150 a night to stay in jail. Taxpayers could be on the hook for thousands for each lock up for a person that really isn't a threat to society. Judges just putting $300 on a poor defendant--not convicted!--might as well have been $3 million. You hit on one of the good parts of the law- the law though allows terrible people to be released and the law has already cost at least one person their life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/arrested-rural-midwife-heads-to-trial-on-95-felony-counts-182148503.html Interesting case in Penn Yan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 29 minutes ago, Koko78 said: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/arrested-rural-midwife-heads-to-trial-on-95-felony-counts-182148503.html Interesting case in Penn Yan. She should have claimed that the one death was an abortion and instead of charging her they might have lit up the Empire State Building. How dare she try to facilitate birth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: She should have claimed that the one death was an abortion and instead of charging her they might have lit up the Empire State Building. How dare she try to facilitate birth! The more serious charges, I think, are the identity theft allegations that she was claiming to be a doctor to get tests run. Depending on the circumstances of the death, I think they will have a hard time proving that she had much to do with a baby dying 6 hours after she did the birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 14 hours ago, CoudyBills said: Hahaah. Government action 101. That government is best which governs least, in this situation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 17 hours ago, B-Man said: HE’LL WIN AGAIN IN 2020 AT THIS RATE: NY Governor Andrew Cuomo Named 2019 U-Haul Salesman Of The Year As People Flee New York State. I mean, unless he loses to Gavin Newsom, which is entirely possible. BOB MCMANUS: It looks like New York’s getting the crime uptick politicians have been asking for. Question for New York Voters: Why are you electing politicians who want more crime against you? Crime was going down, so they let all the criminals run free. Without crime they have no way to make you less free with their constant barrage of new "common senses" laws. 2 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said: You hit on one of the good parts of the law- the law though allows terrible people to be released and the law has already cost at least one person their life. But the state is $150 closer to closing that $6 billion deficit !!!!!!!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/ny-oped-democrats-lay-off-charter-schools-20200130-obmdzdla4bfizfozexxojm64ba-story.html?fbclid=IwAR16I2qLVyPch3fDTQfl-TWpg9Q7CYT4ybAQfMMrkVSkz0JdwODDLXSiUKE Dems love "choice", except when they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 IT’S A RIDDLE WRAPPED IN A MYSTERY INSIDE AN ENIGMA; BUT PERHAPS THERE IS A KEY: Lawmakers want to know why people are leaving New York state. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, B-Man said: IT’S A RIDDLE WRAPPED IN A MYSTERY INSIDE AN ENIGMA; BUT PERHAPS THERE IS A KEY: Lawmakers want to know why people are leaving New York state. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, B-Man said: IT’S A RIDDLE WRAPPED IN A MYSTERY INSIDE AN ENIGMA; BUT PERHAPS THERE IS A KEY: Lawmakers want to know why people are leaving New York state. . If you have to ask................................................................................................................you may be a democrat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said: If you have to ask................................................................................................................you may be a democrat. 1, Taxes-I'm too old to move and still working at 66. Taxes are a major killer. What I pay is sinful. Our great state pays out $62.4 BILLION in welfare to the "forlorn" despite significant debt. No way ANY of it could be fraudulent (COUGH). 2. Hats off to our political "gems" through the years......Big Fredo still in charge.....how's this current and former lineup?.....Schumer, Nadler, The Wiener, Spitzer, Bruno, Silver ,DiBlasio, Hillary, Schneiderman, etc...diamond mines can't top these "precious stones"......should be the "Who's Who List" at Rikers 3. Big Fredo just banned plastic bags and the paper bag manufacturing industry is forecasting a five year shortage due to increased demand. Think Big Fredo asked them first? Um ok. 4. "Bail Reform"- it MUST be working based on reports of those arrested, released with no bail and re-arrested multiple times. 5. Big Fredo's license plate scam-tried to legislate New Yorkers having to buy new plates ala "cash grb"; it was withdrawn. 6. Weed tax-Big Fredo doesn't give a rat's azz about pitfalls of legalization; "just pay the taxes folks" so he can piss that away. 7. Poor poor Puerto Rico-SIX taxpayer funded trips to emphasize with citizens because Trump screwed them out of hurricane relief; last count was $92 BILLION with tons unaccounted for, politicians resigning and/or being arrested. how about warehouses with aid undistributed for TWO YEARS? Sorry folks, been to San Juan many times and the populous "ain't the most energetic bunch. 8. NY Taxpayers paying for Big Fredo's return trip to PR because Trump is screwing them out of hurricane relief dollars. Special thanks to NJ's Sen Bob "Slippery" Melendez chiming in as well. 9. According to my NYSDOT buddies, Bg Fredo does NOT have an email address, thus nothing is in writing and taping of phone conversations need to be pre-announced....what does he fear?... 10. Big Fredo=Albany's Teflon Don-when Buffalo got hit with the 86" snow storm that shut down I-90 from Buffalo to PA line, the regional NYS Thruway Authority Director was highly critical of Albany's response. Big Fredo made sure he was unemployed within two weeks. I'll be back shortly with items of substance...... Edited January 31, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 QUESTION ASKED AND ANSWERED: ● Shot: Lawmakers want to know why people are leaving New York state. ● Chaser: New York State Requires Citizens to Obtain ‘Stargazing Permit’ To Admire the Stars in Public Parks. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1225247780752543744 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1225247780752543744 ...the much maligned, well intentioned and often misunderstood Big Fredo.....our NYS finest...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1225247780752543744 Quote Madeline Singas, the Nassau County district attorney, said in a statement that her office had obtained a protective order for Mr. Rodriguez in December 2018, but that his identity had been disclosed to defense lawyers in December 2019 under a judge’s order. ... While Ms. Singas did not specifically cite the new law as contributing to Mr. Rodriguez’s death, she suggested in her statement that being forced to identify him well before trial had hampered the authorities’ ability to protect him, and may have cost him his life. So, a judge ordered the release of the person's name, a year after it was protected, both of which occurred PRIOR to the new law coming into effect? They can ***** off with this nonsense. Oh, and Nassau County is pretty notorious for being inept, incompetent, and crooked as hell. They got their crime lab shut down awhile back for faking evidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1225247780752543744 It's quite simple. BOLO: MS-13, shoot on site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, CoudyBills said: It's quite simple. BOLO: MS-13, shoot on site. The newer members are getting smart and not tattooing their MS-13 gang affiliation on their faces as much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 VIRTUE SIGNALING CAN CARRY A COST Last night on our Power Line VIP program, Steve noted that the Department of Homeland Security plans to deny the privileges of its Global Entry and other Trusted Traveler Programs to New Yorkers. The Global Entry program enables American citizens and permanent residents who travel abroad to avoid long customs lines when they return to the U.S. As I understand it, to determine who qualifies as a “trusted traveler,” the DHS relies on various government data including information related to driver’s licenses. It uses such information as criminal history and fugitive warrants, as well as corroboration of address and physical characteristics. New York, having declared itself a sanctuary state, allows illegal immigrants, who do not have social security numbers, to obtain valid state driver’s licenses. It also bars the state from sharing with federal immigration authorities data relating to driver’s licenses. By doing so, it restricts DHS’s ability to properly vet would-be trusted travelers. Hence the move to bar New Yorkers from the Global Entry program — a move, the rationale for which applies to other states with similar sanctuary laws. Critics claim that the Trump administration’s move is purely punitive. New York governor Andrew Cuomo accused the administration of “unbounded arrogance” and “disrespect of the rule of law.” It’s not clear to me what law the administration is disrespecting. As far as I can tell, DHS’s action is lawful. Is it a good faith effort to ensure that the Global Entry program doesn’t jeopardize America’s security? Nothing I’ve seen so far demonstrates otherwise, but I don’t know enough to say for sure. If New York can tell federal immigration authorities to go to hell, why shouldn’t federal immigration authorities respond in kind for the limited purpose of the Trusted Traveler Program. And if New York’s elites want to signal their virtue by enabling dangerous criminal illegal immigrants to have sanctuary in their state, why shouldn’t these elitists actually display virtue by willingly standing in long lines when they globe trot? https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/virtue-signaling-can-carry-a-cost.php 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, B-Man said: VIRTUE SIGNALING CAN CARRY A COST Last night on our Power Line VIP program, Steve noted that the Department of Homeland Security plans to deny the privileges of its Global Entry and other Trusted Traveler Programs to New Yorkers. The Global Entry program enables American citizens and permanent residents who travel abroad to avoid long customs lines when they return to the U.S. As I understand it, to determine who qualifies as a “trusted traveler,” the DHS relies on various government data including information related to driver’s licenses. It uses such information as criminal history and fugitive warrants, as well as corroboration of address and physical characteristics. New York, having declared itself a sanctuary state, allows illegal immigrants, who do not have social security numbers, to obtain valid state driver’s licenses. It also bars the state from sharing with federal immigration authorities data relating to driver’s licenses. By doing so, it restricts DHS’s ability to properly vet would-be trusted travelers. Hence the move to bar New Yorkers from the Global Entry program — a move, the rationale for which applies to other states with similar sanctuary laws. Critics claim that the Trump administration’s move is purely punitive. New York governor Andrew Cuomo accused the administration of “unbounded arrogance” and “disrespect of the rule of law.” It’s not clear to me what law the administration is disrespecting. As far as I can tell, DHS’s action is lawful. Is it a good faith effort to ensure that the Global Entry program doesn’t jeopardize America’s security? Nothing I’ve seen so far demonstrates otherwise, but I don’t know enough to say for sure. If New York can tell federal immigration authorities to go to hell, why shouldn’t federal immigration authorities respond in kind for the limited purpose of the Trusted Traveler Program. And if New York’s elites want to signal their virtue by enabling dangerous criminal illegal immigrants to have sanctuary in their state, why shouldn’t these elitists actually display virtue by willingly standing in long lines when they globe trot? https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/virtue-signaling-can-carry-a-cost.php "... so, you wanna play games... lets go!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 hours ago, B-Man said: VIRTUE SIGNALING CAN CARRY A COST Last night on our Power Line VIP program, Steve noted that the Department of Homeland Security plans to deny the privileges of its Global Entry and other Trusted Traveler Programs to New Yorkers. The Global Entry program enables American citizens and permanent residents who travel abroad to avoid long customs lines when they return to the U.S. As I understand it, to determine who qualifies as a “trusted traveler,” the DHS relies on various government data including information related to driver’s licenses. It uses such information as criminal history and fugitive warrants, as well as corroboration of address and physical characteristics. New York, having declared itself a sanctuary state, allows illegal immigrants, who do not have social security numbers, to obtain valid state driver’s licenses. It also bars the state from sharing with federal immigration authorities data relating to driver’s licenses. By doing so, it restricts DHS’s ability to properly vet would-be trusted travelers. Hence the move to bar New Yorkers from the Global Entry program — a move, the rationale for which applies to other states with similar sanctuary laws. Critics claim that the Trump administration’s move is purely punitive. New York governor Andrew Cuomo accused the administration of “unbounded arrogance” and “disrespect of the rule of law.” It’s not clear to me what law the administration is disrespecting. As far as I can tell, DHS’s action is lawful. Is it a good faith effort to ensure that the Global Entry program doesn’t jeopardize America’s security? Nothing I’ve seen so far demonstrates otherwise, but I don’t know enough to say for sure. If New York can tell federal immigration authorities to go to hell, why shouldn’t federal immigration authorities respond in kind for the limited purpose of the Trusted Traveler Program. And if New York’s elites want to signal their virtue by enabling dangerous criminal illegal immigrants to have sanctuary in their state, why shouldn’t these elitists actually display virtue by willingly standing in long lines when they globe trot? https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/virtue-signaling-can-carry-a-cost.php https://twitter.com/lawcrimenews/status/1225862045951762438 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KD in CA Posted February 8, 2020 Share Posted February 8, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 3:29 PM, Buffalo Timmy said: One of my best friends is an officer in the Rochester PD and he stated that the good intentions of the new bail bill are far outweighed by the negatives. Basically it is a decision based on good intentions without any consideration for the fallout In other words, an emotional knee jerk without regard to reason or logic. Just like virtually everything done by Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Oh, this bullcrap actually gets more amusing, and just at the state level. Many law enforcement agencies in NY use the DMV database to pull up photographs, when doing photo arrays to try to get a witness to ID a suspect. They do this to make it easier to find people who look similar to their suspect, so that any identification can be reliable (as in, you can't have pictures of 5 white guys and a black suspect, or a suspect with a beard and 5 others who are clean-shaven, etc.) King Andrew, in his infinite stupidity, has cut off this ability to access the database from any local law enforcement agency who does not sign on to his sanctuary bullcrap. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 14 hours ago, KD in CA said: In other words, an emotional knee jerk without regard to reason or logic. Just like virtually everything done by Democrats. The other part of law is that the defense will be given information about witnesses so they can interview them. This has already cost one person their life and will make witnesses hard to find in future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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